in ukraine because after all how you end up with a trace. they say that who enslave the weeks ago and everything they believed would happen is happening. >> until it doesn't. >> trace: look for us in d.c., think you're. not just the nuclear threats, fears of cyber attack and supply chain sure dumb i tried just charges have americans worried. it joined by national security council under the trump administration. i'm not sure if you heard the conversation there, but do you think as you watch what's happening in ukraine do you see a sense of momentum really shifting in this a bit? >> i think we are still a few days into this conflict and the ukrainians have obviously shown immense courage, and they've really just willed the world to bring support to their side. remember, the