testimony as well that there was no gap in the aid. it was going to be produced by september 30th, that was the hold, that was the plan. there wasn't a point where the aid wasn't there and people actually died.he i mean -- >> that is false. >> shannon: there is testimony about that. >> ambassador taylor testified that "undoubtedly ukrainians were dying because of not having the assistance that they needed." he said i couldn't tie a single death to a lack of aid but undoubtedly, without security assistance from the united states, it was a life-and-death matter. >> shannon: it was due byy september 30th, got there before that. everything else around it not will continue to be debated. it's a good thing that these things are public. every american needs to watch for themselves. a congressman, thank you for your time. >> my pleasure as always thanks, shannon. >> shannon: check it out ed henry here with brand-new breaking details on ukrainian efforts to investigate burisma. you don't want to miss that her part.n plus, extended debate coverage live from the spin room next. if you have medicare, listen up.