>> this is a political show trial. this isn't your regular felony or misdemeanour. >> you can say he was indicted because of things you don't believe he should have been indicted about. >> he was indicted because he was running for president against joe biden. >> it's a trial. if he is found guilty in this trial he can't say if you'd sentence me i'm not going to jail because it's a show trial. >> it's not a real case harold. he has someone without a criminal history, this is a white-collar situation, there's no way he's being sentenced to prison for this. >> i don't know if you're right about that. >> i am right harold. [ simultaneous talking ] >> i look forward to hearing the