about greed. it's not just about trying to climb to the very top and keep everybody else down. >> greg: so predictable. talk about a back-handed compliment. him saying it's not just about greed, means it is about greed. it's like president, you're not just a left wing community organize they're got lucky. you are also a good golfer. shouldn't president obama apologize to half of america whose motives he questioned? i believe in individual responsibility in small government. does it make me a monster in probably. he is right. america is not just about greed. but who brought it up to begin with? president obama along with occupy wall street. starbucks socialism, you can demonize those who do and salute those who poo. >> bob: unbelievable. >> greg: i thought it was fair, bob. >> bob: you thought that was fair? >> greg: i thought it was fair. >> dana: i didn't know the president was from the south. >> greg: yes. >> dana: sometimes he's from the south. other times he's from arrest hard. >> bob: a lot of presidents adapt from the geography they're in. >> dana: united auto workers in washington, d.c.? >> bob: well, get in the auto workers and who they are. it's fair to say if you took a whole speech he gave, he was saying basically that he was complimenting america about people trying to see that everybody has a fair shake going up. he did say if you believe for a second that there aren't people, some people, small percentage to get to top who want people not to get to the top because they sell stuff to people on the bottom. >> greg: you can't paint an entire group of people because there are greedy jerks. speaking of, eric -- i'm kidding. >> eric: funny. >> greg: you analyze the speech and you saw something few people noticed. >> eric: yesterday i was listening to the speech, fox didn't take the speech. i was watching it on msnbc and my jaw is dropping. picked up the phone and called the producers and say we have to take the speech. there is some important things in this. they sent me a transcript, prerelease transcript copy of the speech. let me read what he was supposed to say per the white house. it was supposed to say "that is not what america is about. when the assembly line grind to a halt we work together and get them going again." but he went off-prompter and gave us a glimpse in the soul of president obama when he said see, that is not what america is about. america is not just looking out for one's self, yourself, not just about greed. it's not just about trying to climb to the top and keeping everyone else down. he's basically saying he thinks america is greedy. looking out for yourselves, trying to keep everyone else down. >> bob: how do you interpret that? >> greg: he introduced that idea and now it's like it's not just about that. he's implying that part of it is about that. dana, you have to admit this is a big improvement in the variation of the speech when he would say some would say we're greedy. >> dana: he is haunted by comments. must fill his dreams and keep him company as he walks the white house hallway. it's always "some people say," and "some think." okay, we get who you are talking about. one of the problems for them on this that he uses language like that. if anyone takes offense, what? we didn't say you. >> greg: exactly. >> dana: who are you talking about? >> greg: if you take it personally then it's your fault. here is the thing, how he say america is not about greed when he makes it his recent life's work to point out how the right, the rich have to pay their fair share? >> andrea: right. anyone who hungers for power the way he does and says i'm going to raise $1 billion, that is pretty greedy, too. the only person i see keeping anybody down is this president. he is trying to keep successful people down. he is the one that is dividin dividing. i know bob says it's a comply meant. the most back-handed compliment i've heard. he is talking to the auto workers. the auto workers needed a bail-out because the companies ran their businesses poorly. he wanted to reward bad behavior. all that is doing is setting a precedent for successful business owner. you're not going to get a bail-out. kodak in upstate new york. nonunion, no bail-out. auto workers union, run the business in the ground. you get a bail-out. >> bob: is that to suggest that unions is the reason they fell apart? is that what you are saying? kodak is a scam op -- a scab operation. they broke the union -- >> andrea: why do you think they didn't get the bail-out? they're not union. they're not union. >> dana: what is going on with retirees. there is a big push, the delphi retirees are not the union. they took a hit in the bail-out. the union people did not. that is kind of -- >> eric: you know what? delphi because they also did get some portion, but some of the pension -- they were treated differently. >> bob: 700,000 uaw made sacrifice on the healthcare benefit and other benefits. >> eric: wait. time-out. >> bob: get your facts straight. >> eric: you want to know what the facts are? i love you like a brother. we get in a fight out there, i'll defend until i'm buried in the ground. but you are completely wrong about this. you wait -- the ua, got $4 $4.5 billion in direct stock ownership of g.m. when g.m. bond holders and shareholders were wiped out. they were the first in line to receive money. not the uaw. >> bob: to suggest the retirees did not take a hit when their benefits are cut is just not rue. >> eric: they were bailed out. in a regular company, if the company gets bankrupt they get zero. they took a little haircut. not completely blown out of water like bond holders and shareholders. >> andrea: not in obama's america. he's greedy and wants their vote and rewards them with money. >> dana: look at other auto makers and decision where to make their cars. there are more companies making cars in america. they're choosing not to do it in michigan. in tennessee or other places right to work states where nay are not going to run into the problems. >> bob: now we have general motors the largest car manufacturers. a union shop. >> eric: they owe us $18 billion in tax credit going forward. >> andrea: the asian markets were down because of the floods in thailand where they make the asian auto parts. asian car company took a hit. see what happens in the next couple of months. >> bob: are you betting against the american car company? >> andrea: i'm not. i'll'm trying to -- i'm trying to say the president's spin may be just that. >> greg: the exception proves the rule. >> eric: he mentions ford in here. ask ford workers in kansas city coming to make the f-150 truck. company that didn't take bail-out money but still taking a victory lap. >> greg: speaking of cars i want to talk about energy. tuesday secretary steven chu talked about the doe budget. it was appropriation hearing. again they asked about the primary goal to lower gasoline prices. i believe we have something called a "s.o.t." >> the overall goal is to get our price -- >> no, the overall goal is to decrease your dependency on oil. to build and strengthen our economy and decrease dependency on oil. we think we can go a long way to become less dependent that will help the economy and the consumers. >> greg: isn't the philosophy that america is sick. the medicine is -- they're giving the medicine. we have can't have any more gasoline. because we're adigited to it. >> dana: prescribed where you want a little morphine drip every once in a while. the white house said they didn't know about secretary chu's comments, which is convenient. you can't dictate every word that comes out of a cabinet secretary's mouth. i kind of agree with him in one point. the answer is our job is to make sure there is a secure and steady supply of oil. but they don't use the second part, which is we'll let the market work. if the market for working prices would come down. >> bob: in fairness to him, the series of questions before that were about alternative energy. then that guy from mississipp mississippi, wherever he was from, said is this about gas? he said no, i'm talking about -- exactly right. the department of energy does not set gas pricesment >> eric: is the goal to get the gasoline prices down in the first word is the only relevant word chu said. his first word was no. >> bob: went through series of alternative energy thing. is that the goal of alternative energy to get gas prices down? no, come up with the alternative energies to make a good -- >> eric: i beg to differ. >> bob: you guys are running out of items every day. >> greg: bottom line i don't know why we're discussing this. >> bob: let's talk about the bonuses cut. >> andrea: what do you think the funds new york fire and cops? >> greg: the real story here is snookie is pregnant. we wasted ten minutes and that's an scout rage. snookie is an american hero. some writers think it's daring to bash christian us but a ball of plato is edgier. and tastier if you've ever had it. if you leave now, at least e-mail and tell us why at [email protected]. send me pictures of your ferret. ♪ ♪ [♪...] >> announcer: bank robbery certainly is a frightening crime. after all, bank robbers stole $43 million in one year. but identity thieves? 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that passes for funny in your liberal looney land? they backed it up in the name of free speech. fune. for me it crossed the line. maybe not freedom of speak but crossed the vague line of hate speech and maybe crossed the line of decency. will they show the same constitutionality for the right when we question president obama's motives, agenda and the president's competence? i'm just asking. what do you think, greg? >> greg: here is the deal. i don't call it hate speech. it's predictable stupid speech. the guy can say whatever he wants. christians can take this and serve an example to other religions how we let this roll off our backs. what i find funny, he said in the non-apology he did updated thing. he said i don't mind if anyone was offended and i hope they think twice before they question the base of progressive christians, mormons or muslims. what a hypocrite. he doesn't have the cojones to go after muslims. he wouldn't have written this about muslims and now he's acting brave to go after catholics. he writes with "the simpsons" and i love the "simpsons" so he can't be the funny one if he wrote that. this is stupid, predictable and trite. >> dana: not only that. the toughington post would never have put it on its site if it had been about muslim. >> greg: of course not. they put it under humor. they were terrified someone would take it seriously. >> bob: it was -- sorry. go ahead. >> eric: if he wrote something on that how would it go over? >> andrea: i agree with the intro. there is free speech. i would never write something like this. free speech doesn't mean it's acceptable speech. i can tell you what, first, i would never write. this if i did the editors would likely fire me. >> greg: he writes for free. who is going to fire him? >> andrea: if it was published, something like. this especially on islam. the show would be called the four. >> bob: you know something? the fact is i follow huffington post. i'm embarrassed for them. a better blog than that. the fact they allow this idiot have it on the page, not -- i'll call it what it is. hate speech, bigoted. i'm a protestant. i have differences with catholics but to say these things. do you think that is funny? >> greg: he doesn't say it's funny. he calls it satire. >> bob: i want to ask eric i don't know of liberal press. you said the liberal press supports it. >> eric: i watched it today. they did a piece, whole segment. bias to the left saying you know, freedom of speech. >> bob: i'm here dumping on them saying -- >> eric: listen, they wouldn't answer the phone and i e-mailed them. want to give us your side of the story i know you made it retractable -- whatever, an apology. >> greg: fake apology. >> eric: i said here is an opportunity. we'll talk about it on "the five." give us your side of the story. all i got is no thanks. >> greg: he shouldn't apologize. stand by what you write. if it's trite and terrible you live with it. i admire him for not apologizing but an idiot not to see what an idiot he is. >> eric: the people defending the -- if someone on the right said it, it would be over. >> andrea: they are getting press out of it. dunkin' we talked about it a few weeks ago msnbc fired pat buchanan for something, nothing that he hadn't said before. it wasn't inflammatory. well, relatively speaking. to defend this guy today seems to me a little bit -- >> eric: you want to ask for an apology? >> bob: i love the huffington post and i'm amazed they allow that crap to get in. >> dana: i'm not. >> eric: get to this. this was written, jesus-eating cult, rick santorum. santorum talk about the primary last night, bob? >> bob: if you look at what happened in michigan, he clearly had peaked last weekend. it began to turn off a lot of people as a result of his values stuff. lost among single women. catholics. what mitt romney did is what he had to do. they are coming to where we have to run for ten states at one time. this is over. romney will be the nominee. the problem is romney has a tin ear. >> andrea: i agree with that. i say, too, the state that romney is going to, competitive in ohio, gingrich and santorum saying well, we're not going to play there. we'll play in tennessee. gingrich and santorum will split the vote. it's really, not a smart strategy. romney will win by default. >> bob: why they pull out of ohio. i thought santorum was going to stay in ohio. >> dana: why do you say tin ear? i thought the speech, and i heard from someone i trust for colorado, thought it was the best you had seen him. >> bob: his speech last night was better. tin ear is saying my wife has two cadillacs or nascar -- >> dana: at least they bought american. >> bob: nascar drivers can't stand nascar owners. >> greg: at the end of the campaign romney will have more bruises. and might be good. santorum dropped the sweater vest, it was like cutting samson's hair. took it away. >> andrea: you know what you do with a bruised banana? make banana bread. >> greg: it's weird. i don't like bananas but i love banana bread. >> andrea: i don't think santorum can make banana bread out of this. >> bob: he has the biggest block of delegates coming up in virginia. romney on the bah lot and the rest are not -- ballot and the rest are not. >> greg: i love zucchini bread, too. i don't love zucchini. >> eric: coming up, why is president obama spending hundreds of thousands of tax dollars toward brand new soccer field for gitmo terrorists? but at the same time, that same president is asking american troops to pay more for their healthcare. we have details on both coming up next on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back to "the five." all right. is president obama favoring suspected terrorists over the troops? it's out, a new report saying that president obama has proposed actually cutting healthcare for certain troops. but leading healthcare for other unionized defense workers. some of the premiums, dana, i'll go to you first. the administration are jacking up the premiums on tricare, military healthcare. the savings are so small, $1 $1.8 billion. he look exhe is doing it to get troops in the healthcare exchanges. >> dana: it's becoming perfectly clear. when a president's budget is announced there is the first day of activity and appropriations hearings start happening in the next couple of weeks. that's when you start to find out wait a minute, that's what was in the budget? it's a policy statement. the premium for active military and retiree go from $60 a year to $2048 a year. imagine if your car company said we'll jack up the rates that much. you would shop around to go somewhere else. under the new system we are entering into in 2014 with president obama's healthcare act, we don't have a choice. they are trying to move them in to that. why they are doing it for military and retirees deserves explanation. there may be an explanation. but the department of defense, joint chief of staff and the white house decline to comment about the development today. they are facing a fire storm. the head of veterans for orn wars said there is no military issue more sacrosanct than benefits and healthcare. they will ask the defense department to take another cut. >> andrea: right. tricare is not a gold plaited insurance plan. savings -- you're huffing and puffing. >> bob: i'm only saying first, why they don't defend themselves on this. this is for fiscal year 2013 when the automatic cuts come in because supercommittee couldn't come up with a deal. why didn't they come up with a deal? republicans didn't raise taxes. you to take $1 trillion out of defense. it has to come out of somewhere. he has to cut it by law. why the white house doesn't say this is simple. if we cut a deal on the super committee, if the republicans are doing anything on taxes we would haven't the problems. >> andrea: the way that obamacare is structured it's forcing small business owners. would you rather pay expensive premium for the employees or put them on the exchange? the choice is impossible. freddie this is a caddal prod. using the cad to get in the barn. only way to get people to do obama care. they are somehow less valued than the union activists who can opt out. >> eric: before we move on. you can point out the savings if they jack up the premiums. correct? >> yeah. the average aid this year is 32,748 on the government dole. if you spend enlisted member of the army eight years, eight years enlisted, $23,772. where can you get this? where is the justice? >> bob: if you have a mortgage deduction they give you -- >> eric: that's your money, bob. yes, it is. >> andrea: you have priorities on the board. ta