creating 250,000. we created 3.7 million jobs over the last 23 months. we created the most jobs since 2005, manufacturing jobs since 1990. but we're not finished. >> really, mr. president, you deserve more time in the oval office, more rounds of golf and flights aboard air force one more access to money? that's not what you promised three years ago, remember, sir, what you don't love? >> i will be held accountable, i've got four years. >> you know quickly how people feel about what happened. >> that's right, a year from now, i think people are going to see that, we're starting to make some progress, but there is he' still going to be pain out there. if i don't have it done in he three years then it's going to be a one-term proposition. >> dana, deserve, deserve? >> i think deserve and earned are two very different verbs and i think what he could have done last night was to say i'd like to earn it, i have he' worked hard and what i've done instead into the long diatribe, and sounds like charlie brown's teacher, wa wa wa, and it's different, it still might work and bob is going to talk about the, right now, head to head with romney, obama-- i'm going to-- and sitting there like he's going to explode if we not talk about the poll. >> and we'll skip today in a second. deserve, greg, deserve four more? >> i'd just say that why do we have the super bowl on sunday? i feel absolutely -- i mean, what about the lost productivity. billions of dollars, people like me who can't formulate a thought and i shouldn't be operating machinery. >> or picking out a tie. (laughter) >> and going on, the talking to matt lauer, he's hard hitting attack, and the questions are like-- but i know i'm not making any sense right now. >> at all. >> the only people getting more air time than obama are the-- >> i think s and b. >> thank you. >> and the hey, absolutely, he absolutely deserves another term if you're into failed policies and excessive spending and a deficit. i guess he got the one good quarter into the seasonally adjusted and so it's better numbers, so, yeah. where is the earned and where is the deserved? so far he doesn't have a good record to run on is a problem, but the problem with the republicans is he's still looking great in the numbers. they don't care. >> go ahead, my man. >> not the numbers quite yet and i'm going to respond to this, this diatribe around the table. look, speaks for itself. >> good, then we can stop talking about it. (laughter) >> come on, come on. >> oh, come on, come on, bob! >> (laughter) >> very reminiscent of ronald reagan the first two years, and doing terribly, wasn't nearly as high as obama in the polls now and yet his program began to work and work and work and i was against him in '84 and he was hitting close to every cycle in his engine and he's getting stronger and stronger and it won't be as easy to be making fun of it, about three or four months from now, particularly when you have the republican candidates. >> and can i just point something out. and we have full years under the obama administration, and obama now, three full years, unemployment is higher. and then when he took over, and gasoline is almost double the price when he took over, home prices are well below. and there is he' nothing to work-- >> you think that. >> three years in. >> see, you take unemployment for the first 60 days, and in office, it was a fun-- >> didn't you just do that with ronald reagan. >> no, i just said. >> of course you did. >> obama said it was the last 23 months going up and up and up and the last important thing, a thousand new manufacturing jobs and the first time highest since 1990, look, you can make all the fun you want of this, but the fact is that things are getting better and better and i think people are feeling better about it for the first time. now, i would like to call to the poll, so-- >> and can i just say that the thing he deserves a second term? he deserves something because when you think about it-- i think he shouldn't have run again, i think he should run for something larger. >> you want to export him. >> no, like ambassador to the world. yeah, why is he settling for us? we're nothing compared to obama. right? >> and i don't know, some guy that's-- . and ask newt if he could be the head of that moon colony. >> wow. (laughter) >> what? >> all i can say-- >> and it's difficult to sit here and defend obama and being like the only one on the talk show, i'll take it because i just see these numbers went up and up and up and his programs working more and more and more and i see the republicans falling apart. and his approval numbers the first time. 50% is an important number to get to and that's 50-46. and that's a big change from three or four months ago, getting wetter and better, you've got to look at the time line. >> bob, and it's still within the margin of error of plus or minus 4% so how can it be considered statistically stig. >> i'm agreeing with you that the numbers are important and that romney has a bit after problem there, still hasn't been able to shore up his conservative base, right is? and the negative attacks on gingrich are driving romney-- >> obama being, the last i saw romney was ahead of obama. and now obama is sitting outside of the margin of error and romney's big e-problem, look at the number of voters, every time this guy is exposed to independent voters and the fact is, the independent voters, by the way, hurting romney a lot. >> and i think that -- i think that anybody, because of the primary, everybody is looking better and even carter's numbers are up. (laughter) >> oh, so, about six months ago, the spin from the democrats, unemployment matters don't matter that much. and more like, do they perceive things could get better in the future? and today, after the quarter that they had, even if you wanted to pick apart the numbers all day long and 1.5-- i believe that for most voters, that's noise and more what bob said, you dig deeper into the poll and battle ground states, it's not necessarily helping particularly because of housing and the other thing is on the time line. republicans have been locked in a nasty partisan battle and torn each other apart and the smart thing that the white house did was get obama off of the airwaves for a time. it doesn't seem like that, but relatively so. he didn't do 60 minutes last night, did matt lauer instead. >> and right through june, if you remember, and they were still leading, and so, i'm not so sure that-- >> and before we-- we only have a couple minutes and a quick roundup about what happened in nevada. dana, start with you. and saying the numbers? >> a great number for the romney campaign. the one thing is though, the lower participation level of the republicans might show a reflection that they're the not excited. >> what about that, kimberly. >> yes. >> nonconservatives in nevada. >> it's a falling wind and i think they're struggling with the conservative base and resonate them and like i mention abouted his negatives. >> you know, he's doing a lot better among conservatives than we're giving him credit for. and it does him conservative, but they good answer. >> but. >> no, but he's a very good analyst, but i think what he's saying here, i think all four of these, romney has not done badly among them. ap conservatives, very conservative, he doesn't do quite as well, but the fact is that the turnout. they should be worried about and the other thing, tomorrow in minnesota, he could get knocked down by ron paul. >> i think there was a low turnout. i think it was a problem and mormon base in nevada. >> and donald trump, the greatest living individual on this planet, big loser, however, is math. how come people can't count votes, i think it's like cursive writing, people can't count. >> and the abacus. has the president seems there's a contraception man dit actually respects religion. more on that on "the five" and e-mail us at thefive. we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk. but think about your heart. 2% has over half the saturated fat of whole milk. want to cut back on fat and not compromisen taste? try smart balance fat free milk. it's what you'd expect from the folks at smart balance. try smart balance fat free milk. i remember the day my doctor told me i have an irregular heartbeat, and that it put me at 5-times greater risk of a stroke. i was worried. i worried about my wife, and my family. bill has the mos common type of atrial fiillation, or afib. it's not caused by a heart valve problem. he was taking warfarin, but i've put him on pradaxa instead. in a clinical trial, pradaxa 150 mgs reduced stroke risk 35% more than warfarin without the need for regular blood tests. i sure was glad to hear that. pradaxa can cause serious, sometimes fatal, bleeding. don't take pradaxa if you have abnormal bleeding, and seek immediate medical care for unexpected signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. pradaxa may increase your bleeding risk if you're 75 or older, have a bleeding condition like stomach ulcers, or take aspirin, nsaids, or bloodthinners, or if you have kidney problems, especially if you take certain medicines. tell your doctor about all medicines you take, any planned medical or dental procedures, and don't stop taking pradaxa without your doctor's approval, as stopping may increase your stroke ri. other side effects include indigestio stomach pain, upset, or burning. pradaxa is progress. if you have afib not caused by a heart valve problem, ask your doctor if you can reduce your risk of stroke with pradaxa. 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>> and the rule put forward was carved out of the policy, receiptliscious organization employ people of their own faith. >> and this exemption includes churches and houses of worship and other church and affiliated organizations and that's, in a number of states don't give that, about eight states don't give that exemption. but what i'm finding hard to understand here is that since an overwhelming percentage of the catholic women use birth control or have in the course of their lives, what is wrong with having it available? they don't have to use it, but-- >> but here is what's wrong with it is that it's the question is whether or not the church is required to provide it for free, and if that goes defense their religious beliefs, then who cares, and you'll also be fined if you don't do it. so it's actually a first amendment, from a legal perspective. >> yes, that's why people are saying it violates their freedom of religion to be able to, now, exercise their religion, if they don't want to provide it and penalized if they don't. and this why this could go up to the supreme court and thank you for awe nighting the catholic church, they're strong on this and it's going to hurt obama. >> and the division-- >> i think you're definitely misreading this, but there are 77 million catholics in the country. >> and you think that 77 million catholics are upset about this. >> well, i would say 98%, probably. i don't have a poll, bob, just a feeling that i have. >> and about the civil-- >> regarding this ruling, but it's not necessarily about-- contraception is not the question. the question is does the the federal government and the obama administration have the right to violate the free speech laws and we're talking about the catholics right now you could put any other scenario in here. say something about the jewish religion or muslims and there would be a bigger outcry. >> and if there was a muslim hospital in america, and you ask that they serve pork. >> and if you-- >> don't eat pork, have no other choice. >> that's not about-- but requirement, it's a requirement. >> and you don't have to have it either and not forced to take birth control. >> but the op-ed is entitled our rule respects religion. >> she didn't write the headline. >> she didn't write that headline. >> we're balancing this-- how do you balance. >> you're going to tell me that the obama administration didn't write the headline? >> when you're asked to write that op-ed. >> our rule, it begins, and the catholic church has gotten, see themselves out the last decade and probably have their priests among other things. >> oh, come on. >> why are you bringing that? the whole point, the message that the house democrats got passed in first place, and foerl congressman bart stupak to agree to the baloney executive order signed that said under this ruling there would be no compelling contraceptive use, well, three years later, that's the thing and that's what i'm saying. >> i really think, i'm not -- maybe i am being-- why really understand what is compelling. nobody is compelled to use these requirements. >> it's not about you, it's about provision. they have-- i could set a whole meal in front of you, you don't have to eat it, but if i'm compelled to have to give it to you, or under a penalty of having to pay a fine if i don't, doesn't that cross, that's where-- >> well, i crossed somebody from my train trip up here, a difficult conversation here, but i i thought some of the administration, they have an insurance policy that includes contraceptive use, if you want to use it. now, that's catholic university. why is that different from the-- >> well, let me just-- >> because they're going to be required to provide. >> but he they do. but that's their choice, it's not required. >> and in some schools and hospitals-- >> they're not being, that's their choice, and they can elect to do it which is different from being compelled to in fact carry it, provide it for free without a co-pay. >> and different insurance policies that people are compelled to carry it. >> it crosses the line of religious liberty. i don't know anything about mental health medicine or something like that. this is religious liberty and not only catholics, but everybody, what you're pro-life or pro choice, should be concerned about this government overreach. >> i predict that the obama administration will cave and should have taken joe biden's advice and don't do this and it's goes to cost them-- >> we're going to move on. other news to get to. there's a father suspected in the death of his wife blew himself up and his two children in an explosion yesterday and people are wondering if enough was done to protect the two boys at the time. and we'll discuss that when we return. ♪ woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? 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