>> bret: obviously, we have a personal relationship in that evan "wall street journal" reporter under our corporate umbrella and we have been doing stories and stories and a lot of, you know, outside pressure. is this one of these things where it could last for a long time? >> i have -- you might call me an optimist, but i believe that after november, no matter what the election results are, in this country, they will be a period of opportunity to negotiate for his release. and i thank you for all the conch that you do on him. i know you have done conch with the american -- families of hostages in gaza. and that conch, again, from a negotiating part of you, point of view, it is so useful it and critical in order to help us get people home. >> bret: while the united states and others can work with negotiators to call for the release of americans, the government cannot state to an overseas court that a citizen is guilty or innocent or provide

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