just limited but also eliminated long term. >> bret: juan, i want to get to this mig 29 back and forth. you heard senator sasse say it's botched and kind of all over the place. national review also calls it that. they say the statement from kirby yesterday about poland was disingenuous neither poland or germany it would be ukrainian, not american pilots flying the migs into ukraine. in essence it was fine as poland as a nato nation to take a risk, when that risk however remote extended to the u.s. as a nato nation, the administration backed away. what do you think about this and now where we are on this public no migs to ukraine? >> well, you know, it's a very narrow needle and the united states and nato have to thread that needle. we're in a situation, you know, just pause for a second understand, poland understands that if the russians cut through