an independent prosecutor. with the judiciary committee did in 1998 as they took cannot stars work and incorporated that into their work in the judiciary committee. there was an open hearing on november 19th, 1998, where ken starr came and testified before the judiciary committee. he was essentially the accuser. this is what republicans are saying. that adam schiff is the accuser, or maybe the whistleblower. and that david kendall, who was president clinton's attorney, he then cross-examined ken starr in the judiciary committee. not so much the members, but the president's attorney pair that was that back-and-forth due process that republicans are arguing instance. that there is no guarantee if they get to the judiciary committee that there would be such a back-and-forth. again, this historical precedent is important. it's important to note we haven't done impeachment of president's very often, so it's always going to be a little different. you take that 1998 model, who exactly then would be the