the history is fascinating. >> john sullivan, the history we covered in the book is fascinating and the 1830s, three talk sports in america, facebook, horseracing and bareknuckle boxing. >> interesting because bareknuckle boxing you tell us you don't hit us hard, he can't break your hand. >> sixteen or 25? what i know, they were reported. you don't hit us hard. you don't want to break your hand. it looks more dangerous, safer than boxing. >> he's doing everything to make ends meet and then you will fight in the warehouse somewhere, make some money and leave. why do you say fighting for mobsters is probably one of us they just things you can do?