floating yes and no and votes and ultimately at the end of the day they really kind of bought into it and i feel like they came off feeling flat-footed by the whole thing falling apart yet, the press always is used in these negotiations and an easier story to cover his two men having a personalized issue over what is really a policy disagreement and a reflection of what their voters want. howard: i would say the more compelling story is what kind of federal aid is actually going to pass or not passed as opposed to the beltway politics, but we know how that goes. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. howard: next kamala harris train wreck interview with charlemagne the god and joe biden on abc about a potential rematch against donald trump. ♪♪ their only friend? the open road. i have friends. [ chuckles ] well, he may have friends, but he rides alone.