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you don't hear about it. they got down on that stuff. they have used modern programming which was probably not even available 10 years ago when they started and ultimately able to isolate him. once they had him, they were able to do the other stuff. he 50 the description. the d.n.a., et cetera. >> jesse: was he calling the victim's families? >> apparently he was. now, he had a footprint in new york city at one point before it became the gilgo case. and that went relative to one of the vicbarthemeli calling the fs and taunting them. that gives us you a chill. he was looking online now for the numbers and the addresses of relatives. what did he want with the current relatives. >> jesse: what do you think? >> you know, there is only two possibilities i see. either more taunting, because he hadn't been captured yet and, remember, he still had one

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