i think that's how i would frame that. >> sean: let me -- we can look to the past. you're the historian. we watched ronald reagan. he never put a american foot on the ground when the former soviet union went into afghanistan, but he did provide them stinger missiles, and though stinger missiles made all the difference. he did provide the freedom fighters in nicaragua the weaponry that they needed. that proved successful. then you got the trump doctrine, which took out the caliphate that grew under biden and obama. he just bombed the living hell out of them or took out -- with the same principal, no american boots on the ground. and took out the al qaeda leader in yemen. i think we can learn both from trump and we can learn from reagan how to do this and win without risking american lives. your thoughts? >> sure. absolutely. the thing that's frustrating about the said administration, whether it's fighting inflation at home or dealing with crime,