this has been a wanton disregard for the impact not just on our system, but on the messaging it sends even to young people in the country that you -- destroying the character of someone through hoax or through lies that due process means nothing, that equal justice means nothing, is, of course, ironically why trump was elected. he's taking these slings and arrows. and, of course, we've got a year coming up here where we can make a statement. but in the meantime, more damage can be done if we don't, in fact, and they're -- you know they're touching base at home now. they're doing polls. and this is, i think, also -- >> americans need to rise up and say this is fundamentally wrong. we're not going to allow this to happen ad nauseam from here on out. and the only way to do it is with their vote. >> that's it. >> americans will do that at the polls, tammy. they will do that at the polls. >> we will indeed. we have a chance for that. thank god for the founders. sara, greg, thank you for this. without a doubt, many in the