>> sean: and reince, schiff is a compromise fact witness in the case. let's assume the impeach trump in the house, goes nowhere in the senate, how does it impact 2020? >> you already saw it in the poll last week, the marquette poll in wisconsin, which is the biggest most-win state in america. it showed that only 41% of the people in wisconsin support impeachment, which is one of the worst numbers in the entire country. and karl is right. i think the republicans -- i think the leadership on the republican side, you, so many others have done a great job in pushing back on the issue of this being totally procedurally flawed. the american people are getting it that this is a host job. it that this is a hose job. i thought matt gaetz, last week, by charging into the star chamber, was brilliant last week. people gave him a hard time about it, but he shed light on what was happening. but what i would like to see, now the republicans have to