and we had 17 people plus me. when the 18. it was actually not 17. he was 18. remember? gilmore. nobody remembers him. we had 18 people. i said who are these people? are they any good at debating? i hired a debate coach, and he lasted for about 10 minutes. i said this guy knows less than i do. he didn't know anything. he didn't know anything. it's true. he said never, ever interrupt while they are speaking. i said, okay, coach. put me in, coach. after a couple of those statements, i mean, i mean, you can't beat ted cruz if you don't interrupt him. it's impossible. it's true. so i see, let me see the cards, let me see the whole thing. i want to see it. i need help. i'm going to be debating in