because kids learn merit through the crushing sense of defeat. so if you take it away from them it's not a wonder they'll grow up to want their student loans for giving or something else, you know what i mean? earning something is the best way to feel good about yourself, people want make a contribution. if you come up second and somebody says, well, that's just as good as you so why don't you come to the white house, what are you going for example to walk away feeling like? i'm a second place kind of person, i think guy nailed it. >> it would be like calling jimmy kimmel the king of late night. it's just not right. it's just not right. >> that's just pandering. >> jimmy: spot on. because if we're being honest jimmy kimmel has become the prince harry of late night. speaking of, up next another