bothers me about these hokes is when they're announced, it creates this bad negative energy. it's like a burning smell. but then, when we realize the hoax was nonsense to begin with, that bad energy sticks around. people are still emotionally hurt by this. we can't allow this stuff. and what fascinates me is when you look at jussie smollet -- >> "small-lay". >> greg: his idea is it's the cartoonish twirling the mustache, we were supposed to belief they were ma ga country, trump supporters carrying bleach in chicago at 2:00 a.m. >> on the subway. >> and they recognized him from that stupid show? but we have things like this, it's really bad. there knees to be severe public punishment for the people who create a public crisis like this. [ applause ] >> greg: if you create -- -- if