pushing another victorian cross member there, only 23, i think, surviving members who won the victory george cross for gallantry and you see him there issue not sure who he is ush approximating, that will be probably another victorian cross, you can't get a higher medal in the british army. he is one of the bravest person you will ever meet, several times risked his life to save his fellow soldiers in afghanistan and i think 17 of the 23 surviving vcgc medal winners will be there, which i think is biggest gathering we've seen of them. >> ainsley: just saw president biden walking through westminster abbey. this is first time the public has watched the monarchy funeral service inside, king george vi