whether taken over the capital, what is the point the u.s. would get involved in if there is a point then there needs to be in involvement right away. if there is no point that we would get involved did the administration needs to stay out of it. but they need to be clear, there is a redline, they need to let the world know what that is. jon: bottom is linsky says americans are ratcheting up the fear factor. andy doesn't seem to believe innovation really is eminent. they're going off incredible intelligence whether he chooses to believe what is coming out of our intelligence agencies is his choice, obviously we know putin has dried up until this moment ten hours from now, ten days to decide he is not going to go into the ukraine like what happened with crimea years before. but if he chooses to this is going to be you can paint it as