rather than persecute them? all right, two things here. let's first of all talk about this idea the mayor has that apparently it's a media creation, an atmosphere, a false atmosphere of crime in new york. >> right. >> what's your response to that? >> look. blaming the middle man here isn't going to move the ball forward. new yorkers have eyes. more importantly new yorkers have phones. everybody these days has their phone with camera and video on it so no matter what the media does new yorkers see what goes on. it's stuff you encounter every day. the fact is i've never seen so many empty storefronts and homeless encampments. those things lead to an atmosphere of disorder. the crime numbers they're using compared to last year the covid year you have to go back to 2019 to get accurate numbers. i'm rooting more the mayor. when he got that office he came in on a public safety platform.