death? >> when you look at a history of 12 arrests for intoxication, driving under the influence, he obviously had trouble whether it was from the incident -- as a young man who died it is a terrible terrible tragedy as far as i am concerned. did he have a troubled life? yes. how his death came about we don't know yet but i am sure the investigators will find out. >> this is a fox news alert. there was a silent march on this father's day in new york city. thousands walking down 5th avenue to protest this city's stop and frisk policy allows them to search any pedestrians they reasonably suspect is up to no good. this is what we athey are tryin stop. watch this robbery suspect firing his gun at cops as they attempt to run him down. could you run that one more time? firing his gun. the kid escaped. he is accredited by many for helping make new york the nation's safest city. with the murder rate less than half of chicago and one-third that of philadelphia also known as kiladelphia. with silent protestors at the march today they point to the fact this practice is hugely discrim sto discriminato discriminatory. of the almost 100,000 stopped last year87 percent were latinod black. the president of the naacp called stop and frisk the most massive local racial profiling program in this country. >> you want to end it or do you want to modify it and make it color blind? >> we want to end the racial profiling and the object of today and meeting with them the other day was to say nobody wants to call them criminals but when you have the data that establishes racial profiling when you have the data it says even in majority white areas over 70 percent of black and latino that's a profiling policy. >> what about the argument that it works to a certain extent? >> it does not work. when you look at the fact that the guns confiscated in 2011 were not much higher than the guns confiscated in 2003. when you look at 88 percent of the people they stopped and risked had -- frisked had no guns no marijuana nothing. how does it work the majority of black latino men in the city they are innocent. they have nothing. that doesn't work for those who get jacked up. one of the reasons we came down in the upper east side in the silent march is threefold. one we came down a community that doesn't see their children grown-up against the wall. two we came on father's day to show on a day that most people who be with their fathers it is important enough for tens of thousands of people to break up their father's day to come. three we showed the discipline in the upper east side police will show in it our neighborhood to have tens of thousands to be silent shows impeccable discipline. i hope the commissioner can send police with the same kind of discipline in our community. >> what about the fact that chicago has more than twice the homicide rate? philadelphia more than three times the homicide rate? >> you can look at it so it's true that violent crime has gone up 29 percent. but in baltimore down by 37 percent. in dallas 49 percent no stop and frisk. 99.9 percent of people don't have a gun. 685,000 stop and frisk 750 times. you have more stop and frisk. boys and men then there are black boys and men 14-24 in the entire city. what we know about profiling it built a wall between the most victimized places in the city and the cops sworn to serve and protect. not surprising a city like los angeles could lower violent crime twice as far without broken. >> we have video of an unarmed 18-year-old kid being chased cops after running from an attempted stop and frisk. it shows him running into his family home into the bathroom locks the door and tries to flush the marijuana he was hiding into the toilet. you see the officer following him in busting into the bathroom, he shoots the teenager dead in front of his little brother and his grandmother. the officer who has been indicted foreman slaughter richard hayes has pleaded not guilty claiming he feared he had a gun. his parents join us now. thank you for coming in. our condolences. the attorney is also here. first of all our deep condolences. this is father's day. i image this must be a very, very painful day for you especially. >> it is. it is. it is hard for me to explain wh what i am feeling. i almost didn't want to get up this morning. i have no energy. i am just feeling just confusion. when i got into the building constance got in before me. we came up stairs and says so why was he looking like that? it's just what i am feeling right now. just lost. empty. just thinking about it what he would be doing now probably watching a game, eating something and i am not able to do that. >> constance, the fact that the officer chased your son into your home is that the worst part of it? >> i just want to make something clear. he did not chase my son. my son walked in. i want to clarify that. yes, they came in the house and it was about 10 flight of steps up. they kicked my door in went inside my house confronted my son in the bath, shot him. how is his little brother? >> he is very traumatized. when he sees a cop they kill ramarley and marley didn't do anything. i have to keep on explaining to him, as i said not all cops are bad. i have to keep telling him that. i am going to continue telling him that. because not all cops are bad. when the good cops see the bad cops doing something they don't say anything about it that make them just as bad. when we see something we must say something. i think that should go both ways. is it stop and frisk that is at the heart of this tragedy? >> i believe it is over aggressive police policies and procedures. it would have been a stop and frisk situation that would have stopped before he entered into his home. just as con stens said to you they flamed this as ramarley was running away from the police. the tapes speak for themselves. thank god for the police. the police in the immediate aftermath said that ramarley were running for his home they were in hot pursuit chasing him. they gave a statement there was a struggle inside the apartment. i believe they stopped him before he entered. it would have been a stop and frisk situation. but as it was i believe they were required to get a warrant to enter the home. >> bo deedle decorated former nypd officer our hearts go out but i know you are defensive about the nypd we find them professional for the most part. >> my sympathy goes to the family here. i can't understand what they are going through losing a child. my heart goes out to them. two years ago malcolm smith state senator from south jamaica called me said bo we have a tremendous amount of shootings in south jamaica. what are we going to do about all of these shootings young kids getting shot in the school yards. i said you have to bring in kelly and debt anti crime in here it means stop and frisk. the reverend floyd flight the one who beat the united states congress back in 1986 has stepped up now. he supporteds it to get these guns off the street. what is happening is innocent young kids, black kids, latinos, everybody is getting shot. we have to get the guns off the street. there's a way of doing it. there is a way to go up excuse me we have shootings around here we have a lot of guns. you pat them down nicely i am sorry i have to fill this paper out. if you ever need anything you were really a gentlemen to me. you don't throw somebody against the wall and disrespect them. you leave them with a smile on their face and you will be able to deal with people. >> we will talk more about stop and frisk. do you feel a sense of consolation so many came out today to honor him? >> it kind of lifts me up a little bit to see so many people. i understand they are fighting and they are marching because they are tired of seeing latino and black kids be treated in a certain way. >> i understand my son is dead and it is about him for me and it includes other kids. i have seen stop and frisk at age 12 years old. when i look the officers were rude to me to realize i was just looking. it was good to see the crowd come out and show their support. i realize a lot of kids that was out there had their own he c experience with stop and prefri. >> i just want to say our condolences once again. >> more on the stop and frisk more on the ramarley's case. did the president and another go over board with the stop and breed act. a fath >> before we investigate the case of the young dad allegedly raping or attempting to rape his 5-year-old daughter what do our focus group think about stop and frisk? let me start with you. wouldn't chicago be better? >> no, i don't think so. we are only recovering weapons 1.3 percent of the time. at the end of the day we have to look at the fact that we have a spirit of stop and 23ris can that goes beyond the black and latino community. in america you can be raised for any reason. you can be strip searched for any reason in america. we are slowly moving our civil rights and civil liberties. we have to look at that. >> it is hard the statistical stuff last year 600 thousand people stopped in new york city. 87 percent of those latino and black. that is a spelling statistic that is hard to get around. i want to make the argument the bloomberg administration is saying they are leaving the guns home. >> why is that ridiculous? >> there is no way that's the case. >> if the police are doing their job correctly not just stopping people because they are minorities, i think i will buy that. i don't see it. i think that they are stripping our constitutional rights with this. i think it is going beyond what we saw. they lost their lives for something more than stop and frisk. they went well beyond it. they broke into the apartment. they need a search warrant for that. there's a constitutional right as an individual to your home. i think we need to balance it. >> we have high unemployment areas we had 120 murders there a year. every friday and saturday night someone is going to die. that's the fact of life. when you send the anti crimes the guys out there to try to get the guns gone try to stop the shootings. i was there picking up young black and hispanics who were shot. the black-and-white crime is very bad. >> we have to look at white on white crime. >> we will talk about more. we have to take a break. whatever you think of the president's historic immigration speech i hope you agree the >> this is a temporary stop dead measure that focuses resources wisely while giving a degree of relief hope talented driven patriotic young people. it is the right thing to do. excuse me, sir. this is not time for questions, sir. not while i am speaking. the answer to your question, sir, in the next time i prefer you let me finish my statements before you ask that question is this is the right thing to do for the american people. i didn't ask for an argument. i am answering your question. >> it was an outrageous violation of protocol, folks. i don't care where you stand he was acting more like an occupy wall street anarchist than a reporter. before i get to the substance of the controversial action on immigration says any one disagree with me that he is a rude jerk? >> absolutely not. the president of the united states is speaking whether or not you are in accord for agreement with what he is saying whether you feel he has authority to implement it whether congress is involved or shouldn't be involved that's not the issue. i let him speak and if when and this he decides to take questions that's when you ask. >> you have to respect the president of the united states. you will interrupt. if you have a question answer session. total jerk. >> total jerk. i don't think his reaction was by accident. he got the highlight point by using the total jerk so he handled it well. >> what about the president doing an end run? he passed his own version of the dream act legalizing between 800 thousand to 1.2 million illegal immigrant young people brought here as innocent children. >> our president spoke about this when he was elected. for the first two years he had a democratic congress and senate and he should work on this thing. this is very good i support this. when he got elected it was now we are going into it's the end of the game right now looks very political. looks very political. my point is he has to deal with it. what he is doing is good. what happened to the first three and a half years. >> you know politics. >> yes, i do. >> does it have the stink of politics? >> it's not the tink but the work of politics. they work for you. at the end of the day you cannot hold children responsible for their children's debt. when you were a child you do what your parents tell you to do. he is giving them some space. of course it's political that is who he is. >> you have the power to circumvent congress? >> what he is doing he stands for when he was elected constitutionally he is really stretching it. then we have the other side in arizona where a 6-year-old was arrested yesterday. a 6-year-old mexican immigrant was arrested because she was found to not have papers. we are in a very, very unbalanced situation. something has to be done toal 4r50e6 yat it. is this the right thing? tons tugsnally he is going to have a challenge. >> i absolutely agree with that as well. i also agree with ms. jackson we can't hold kids responsible for interaction of their parents as the case may be. >> does it pass the constitution? >> the only wiggle room they have is they are saying this is just a two-year period not permanent. therefore it is defensible. >> i think it's defensible morally legally and bravo president obama for doing it. >> he beat to death the man allegedly molesting his young daughter. wouldn't you do the same? testing the limits of self defense in the lone star at lar. for the latest headlines go to foxnews.com. this is a fox news alert as the grand jury considers whether the beating death of an alleged child rapist or attempted rapist was justifiable homicide we store an exclusive interview of a sheriff called to the scene. before we debate the limits of self defense here is craig. >> a week ago saturday here in texas a father came upon his 5-year-old daughter being sexually assaulted by a man he invited to his farm. that man ended up dying. many people are asking was he justified in beating that man to death? >> what i have heard in the community any father would do that to protect his daughter whatever it takes. >> this isn't texas justice per se this is people reacting as parents? >> yes, i think so. i don't think it matters what part of the country you are in, if someone is attacking one of your family members especially a young child like that you have to do what you have to do to protect your child. he says there is no evidence to indicate the 23-year-old dad set out to kill his daughter's assailant. >> it appears there was an immediate reaction trying to save his daughter and that is when he struck him about the head? >> do you think he meant to kill that man? >> i don't think he did. he was very remorseful that the man died and i don't think it was his intent. i think he was just protecting his daughter. >> when the girl's father called 911 at 3:43 on june 9th evidences urgently seeking medical care for the man he assaulted. >> he didn't know if the man was deceased or not. >> when wat was he like when he making that call? >> he was very distraught about the situation. we had a difficult time getting the information out of him. >> was he more distraught by the fact that his 5-year-old daughter or someone attempted to molest her or the fact that this man was lying in a state where he couldn't get conscious. >> i think it was a combination of both. >> image the scene a family gathering on a rural farm the grown-ups shoeing horses sent them out of the way. that's when the attacker sat upon the girl. >> at that point that's when he heard his daughter screaming for help. that's when he went down and found him. >> according to reports he was half naked. again tells were expo-- gent ti were exposed must have been an emotional impact on that father. >> when we arrived on the scene that's how we found the deceased he had his pants and underwear down. >> it was a shock to me something like that happened around here like that. nothing happens in a small unionity like that ever. >> he has known the girl's father since grade school. >> any father that did what he did would have done the same. >> i think he should get father of the year award. any father should do that for their child. >> in this otherwise peaceful town home of the famous shiner beer and self proclaimed sweetest little city in texas most locals feel the same way. >> i believe it is justified in my opinion. >> i think i would be in a violent rage as well. i would of course react and beat this person but i don't think i could kill someone. >> if you were in a grand jury would you indict this person? >> i don't think so but there are still a lot of questions that need to be answered. >> they owe national pli play on a neighborhood farm there is no doubt how he would react? >> what would you have done? >> i would kill the guy. >> i think we would say we would all kill the guy. let me ask you a question, the 23-year-old father does he have a criminal record? >> no criminal record at all. never been in trouble. >> is there any one who contradicts his account that he interrupted? >> there was an eyewitness who alerted the father to the scene and the sheriff totally believe this is story. believes he was justified in what he did. >> it is going to a grand jury what's the timing? >> he is going to bring the evidence to the januarigrand ju. the people i spoke with around that town and people across the state there isn't a grand jury in texas that would prosecute this guy. >> rebecca rosewood land here's the problem. self defense it is self defense therefore justifiable homicide to use deadly force to stop a sexual assault or aggravated sexual assault. here is the problem. if that dad shoots the guy with a gun bang he is dead no problem. self dpeens. he stabs the guy dies self defense no problem. using his fists bam, bam, at a certain point he saves the child. at some point he rendered -- he has neutralized the assailant. at what time does he become vigil anti? >> do this case i don't think he has any. there is a limit to how much force you can exert. in this case it seems as if he exerted force backed off the minute the man was not moving and didn't know if he had killed him or not. didn't plan to kill him. he is justified during a sexual assault. that was his child. we have an eyewitness. i think he is going to be fine. i can't image an indiment. >> he could have struck the guy one time if he hit a guy right in the face one time killed in one shot he would have been better with that happening rather than several shots. >> the alleged wild molester should burn in hell but shouldn't be dead. the father had an opportunity after the guy lost consciousness and before he dropped dead. >> the grand jury want to indict i would agree the jury would full fy. under this circumstance you can see how a father would can so enraged. >> you made an amazing point which was you could have shot him. he only hit him three times. >> did he go crazy? >> really i would never justify the killing of any one. that said -- >> he can't pull himself back. >> 28 yeefs ago you remember this if you are old enough. a louisiana dad in baton ruj, louisiana famously shot and killed his son's rapist a man named jeff due set as he was being brought back for the trial. the whole thing was on camera. >> son of a pitch. >> after pleading no contest to manslaughter he was sentenced to five years probation. the young rape victim has become a victim's right activist. great to see you. how are you doing? >> i am doing good. good to see you. >> how is life generally? >> my dad came over. we cooked out. things are good. >> does this remind you of the grim old days? >> all of the cases that come up like this where there is some type of vigil anti parent sexual assault monday morning i had ten text messages before i woke up talking about this case. do you agree your father was also justified? >> adrenaline is one heck of a drug. if you walk up on somebody s sexually assaulting a young child how much if am i going to hit this guy. you were going to beat him until it is over with. you are not thinking you are reacting. >> how is your dad doing? does he ever feel any sense of remorse maybe he should have waited for the justice system to take its course? >> i know that my dad is a very religious person. i think that because he killed another human being thou shall not kill, would he do it again? he would not hesitate to do it again if someone did that to his grandchildren now. >> what do you tell your own kids about your story now? >> i have nieces and nephews i don't have any kids. they are probably watching right now. we teach them if any one ever does anything inappropriately you come and tell them a -- tell a trusted adult. >> you are welcoming in a sense of wild west justice. >> no. feels as though anybody seeing a man abusing or trying to rape a 4-year-old girl. use whatever you have in your hand. if you are lucky to have a gun in your hand shoot the son of a gun. >> you don't kill someone. we don't want to usher in vigil anti justice. new testament philosophy that is mine. look at the detail of the case. number one he had to pull his man off of his child one could say people plead insanity all of the time. if i saw that i would go crazy. using the term molestation this is a rage. >> you wouldn't slice his head open? >> i would try not to walk in with an action. >> you have final thoughts? >> you are akty -- ak tufrlctiv involved. >> great seeing you again. best wishes to you. >> good seeing you. >> regards to the family. coming up ladies and gentlemen another case a florida man calls 911 to report his wife missing. manning including the wife's family who you are going to meet believe he is the one who did it. >> welcome back. 38-year-old patricia torres was last seen on november 10th. he was last seen by the man who places this 911 call on april 2nd. >> that was the estranged husband saying now some day i definitely did it end quote. police believe the man's ex-wife estranged wife is the victim of foul play. declared the husband a person of interest they obtained a search warrant for his residence. they have taken his dna samples. brother and sister-in-law believes he was the person responsible in an at large crime time ex complclusive. brother and sister laura the missing woman will join us from miami. why do you believe sid torres is the one responsible? >> thank you for having me tonight. i really appreciate it. i believe he had something to do with this. the relationship hasn't been something that has been a dream relationship. it has been 20-years turmoil advising her to leave him to leave that situation and sort of move forward. there has been a serious threat to her life that have now coming out. there have been several times he has choked her that we have heard about now that she has been missing. civil friends told us that as well. there is so much pointing to them it is pretty clear and rational and logical to look at him as a person that was involved. >> he has been allowed to move into the house he has been living in. how do you feel about that? >> i don't honestly have the words. i don't even -- i truly cannot wrap my mind around any of this. thiss the last thing i want to believe happened but there's no way for knowing it. it is a horrible fact that we are every day desperately trying to come to terms with and trying to in some way move forward in our lives. do everything we can to one day provide safety for these children. we have had no contact with them. we are back in this house they are back in the care of the sole person of interest in her disappearance. to be honest we know it's not a disappearance we know it is her death. there is thoughts to truly describe the absolute horror and heartbreak that we experience every momenter every day. >> i want to go to the panel on this case. pleas please stand by. richard is in florida tonight. you will hear from him a after this short break. he is considering taking away the children. the threats couldn't be substantiated. the attorney general dismissed the petition. we know the police department has been investigating this disappearance for two months. the 911 tape has been available -- >> what about that 911 tape. >> that sounds pretty inky to me. he said i definitely did it doesn't he? >> he is referring to a phone call that he made to his mother in law. the fact of the matter is geraldo -- >> that was monday morning. >> it was on monday morning. >> about 2:00 a.m. on monday. nothing was regarding sunday. >> he was referring to a phone call. if i could finish without being interrupted, geraldo. the miramar police department had had that 911 tape for a very, very long time. cid torres has not been charged with a triem. crime. >> he is a person of interest. >> the only person of interest. >> i do not know that. >> he is the only person of interest. you do know that. >> if i could finish my point. the family has been waging a media campaign against my client. i think it's inappropriate. he has not been charged with a crime. javier blanco is a florida bar attorney. he should not be making statements of this nature -- >> i can make whatever statements i want. i have an opinion. makes absolutely no sense. that is not based on law. >> it is based on the rules of the florida bar, a florida bar attorney -- >> there is no procedure here i don't have an attorney client privilege. you make no sense. >> you are not making any sense mr. blanco. >> you are an attorney. an attorney is an attorney -- >> he is a brother. his sister is gone probably dead. >> i understand that. >> (inaudible) >> i understand he is the brother, geraldo. i wrote him a letter explaining i respect the fact that he is a grieving brother. >> what you are doing is using the rules of the bar frivolously. that's not moral. >> where he is publicly disparaging someone who has not even -- >> i am not disparaging any one. >> let javier make a statement. i have to get a couple of panels. >> javier. it's my opinions. there's no attorney client privilege there's no proceeding going on. i am a brother. i am grieving. this is my opinion. i can say whatever i want. any heat here? >> the good news for the family they don't need a body to indict the estranged ex-husband. they said to him right before they found a body this smells a lot like -- >> there is nothing wrong with what javier has done. >> i have so much respect for javier. he knows things this other guy don't know. i respect javier. javier speak out about this all you want. >> the wheels of justice move but they move slowly. it has been two months. my assumption is there will be charges here. it smells rotten. there's a 15 year relationship. whether or not there's a past history of abuse. the fact is it is involved and that's the concern. >> javier julie thank you very much. i have to leave it there. ladies and gentlemen thanks our panel. i wish you the best. happy father's day everybody. thank you for wat ♪ >> good morning to you. i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather nauert. hope all you dads out there had a wonderful father's day. it is monday june the 18th. thank you so much for watching "fox & friends first". >> the top five stories making news at this hour. hours ago president obama arriving down in mexico for the g 20 summit. world leaders joining there for the global economy. they are also meeting privately with russian president vladimir putin. they are discussing the situation in syria. that could be tense following claims last week from secretary of state hillary clinton that russia was supplying syria's government with attack helicopters potentially to be used to attack civilians. >> relatives in the trayvon martin case, six jail house phone calls between george