solidify the defacto of separation under russian controlled leadership so that in the future those regions of ukraine will vote forever to keep ukraine out of nato. so we will see a lot of cyber-attacks, political destabilization and god forbid but i think a military operation at least in donbas. mike: i want to play a clip from the a russian official and i want you to respond. >> there's no innovation and no such plans. russian troops are on sovereign russian territory. we don't threaten anyone. mike: russian ambassador to u.s. saying, nothing to see here, your thoughts? >> it's utterly ridiculousment you don't deploy 130, 150 or 190,000 troops on the border of a country not in a threatening way. by definition, not only is that threatening it's illegal. it's contrary to russia's own pledges under numerous