the 7th of october is going to be every day for you. what do you say to these people? >> first of all thank you for having me and i say that they are a few weeks ago there was a line between pro- palestinian and hamas. that line is being blurred. those kids are seeing -- saying they are -- they are hamas. this is so outrageous. columbia is just playing into it by allowing the kids there without their tents, big deal. it's nice outside i'm a new york the weather is fine. that is not hurting anybody -- the protesters to say just stay out there. it is beyond outrageous that jewish students, all students have to be scared like that girl that you showed. it is ridiculous what is going on. >> trace: to your point i want to put this up there because