for them to change their mind and that's when it seems plenty democrats are thinking. >> i think it's been an open thought that joe but it wouldn't run. he has to say he will because if he doesn't the wolves will circle, but right before thanksgiving break even democrats are saying this guy can't run again and that's pretty remarkable that less than 10 months into the administration either the president nor the vice president for that matter are qualified or capable of leading the ticket in the next election and that's a pretty amazing seeing. not even to the midterms and there's already nothing going on bond right now. pete: joe biden's poll numbers are low and kamala harris is 10-point worse. the first woman of color vice president, you would think she would be there to be the standardbearer person for the party, but her name is pretty passed over quickly. where did they go to look for a nominee and is there any way for it to be orderly or will it turn into a food fight? >> that was kind of
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