saved so many lives with stop and frisk, he really does believe, the lives that i saved were in majority communities, we were getting guns off the streets, we had a job to do in a city that needed work. >> the problem for black people want to go win the democratic primary, the black vote is huge and we know it's over 50% in states like south carolina, so i think he had to apologize, i do think right off the bat it sort of made him look like every other politician. and i think a lot of us were disappointed in that, the reason he was popular as major in new york, he continued the anticrime -- rob: cleaned the city up. >> giuliani started it, he doubled down and -- the other thing i saw on twitter, some people going after for, the other thing he did that a lot of us appreciated was when occupied wall street started out building cities in downtown, he took them out, no, we will clear this