two -- the independence of these two regions of ukraine. it's still ukraine. >> yeah. they have been fighting there the last 8 years. controlled by russian backed separatists. now he says i recognize you as independent. if they ask for troops, is he going to send troops. that's what we are seeing today. more troops. where will these troops stop, steve? >> steve: great point. >> pete: vladimir putin is calling those troops peace keepers. >> ainsley: under the guise of peace keepers. >> pete: one guy's invader is another's peace keepers. they are not really break away they were taken along the same time crimea was taken. and frankly it's the reason it's precarious for ukraine belarus on the northern part controlled by russia. >> steve: look how big that thing is. it's gigantic. second biggest country in that part of the world.