maxwell's lawyers believe it will be appealed. where does this go? >> nowhere. they will spend a whole lot of money because this judge alpha mason you may or may not agree with her politics she is one smart cookie. she clerked at the u.s. supreme court not just everybody gets to do it. she is really really smart. my point is, she didn't have any trial errors. so there is really nothing to appeal. ghislaine maxwell better rely on not an appeal but naming names to get a reduced sentence or it's dan bury for her. joey: let's hope she spends the rest of her life in jail either way. i hope she does name names. nancy, thanks for coming on with us. >> thank you for inviting me and thank god for this verdict. >> facing 65 years behind bars. she is 60 years old. nancy, thank you. all right, coming up, americans are dealing with a record surge of code cases and a nationwide shortage of testing. weave will tell you what she