billionaires because people aren't resentful of them but no one is resentful of the person who opened the ursuline and all of a sudden this woman, man, hiring people in local community and they reached that threshold where these taxes make sure they can never expand their business again. that is the rub here. >> there's bipartisan agreement about billionaires and billionaire taxes but when you talk about 400,$000 thresholds are 150,$000 thresholds you are biting into the heart of america, the heart of small business people and the discussion needs to move away from the low hanging fruit of billionaires, fantastic soundbites but if there's one thing we have seen in the post pandemic era it is policy that has been made against small businesses in america and they are the ones that need to stop