was advocating for it. especially he was discussing it with yermak. on september 13th taylor and i ran into yermak after a meeting with zelensky. he hoped no interview was planned. mr. yermak did not answer but shrugged in resignation as if to indicate he had no choice. in short, everybody thought there was going to be an interview and the ukrainians believed they had to do it. the interview ultimately did not occur. on september 21st ambassador taylor and i collaborated on input to mr. morrison to brief president trump ahead of a september 25th meeting scheduled with president zelensky in new york on the margins of the u.n. general assembly. the transcript of the july 25th call was released the same day. as of today i still not seen a read-out of the september 25th meeting. as the impeachment inquiry has