of course, the american people haven't seen a lot of this information. these hearings aren't being held openly. >> bill: if you get a public hearing in three weeks perhaps it all changes. >> it could change the dynamic absolutely. the other thing i'll tell you, when you put people in live testimony in a public hearing you never know what can happen. people will change their story, crumble, make admissions. there is a lot of this game yet to be played. >> bill: tom dupree with analysis from washington, d.c. thank you, tom. see you soon. >> sandra: chicago's top cop snubbing the president refusing to attend trump's speech to police chiefs a little bit later next week. why he is saying he is skipping it even though he is co-hosting the event. plus this. >> bill: terrifying moment for two young girls. how they survived when a tree crashed through the roof of their home.