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points down in the polls. now we're leading in the polls. bill: larry sabato, center for politics, university of virginia. good morning to you, sir. first, if mitt romney wins michigan, what does that mean? >> it gives him real momentum again. he has had it several times prior. but this is a critical moment because next tuesday 10 states vote in super tuesday. the biggest delegate pile yet. the biggest day in the primary season yet. and he wants to do well in one state above all and it happens to be your home state, bill, ohio. bill: flip it around. because you're right, it has reached a critical state. what if santorum pulls off the upset in michigan? >> it's probably even bigger for him than romney winning michigan simply because the, romney's native state is michigan. if santorum can defeat romney in michigan, then he has a very bad chance to beat -- very good chance to beat romney in ohio. that is the state of the the 10 the press will focus most. after all ohio is the super swing state in november. it really matters what happens there. bill: good point. as of today, you warn us not to overlook arizona. explain that? >> this is becoming a delegate contest. there are very few people left who think this nomination will be wrapped up quickly or easily. we're into counting delegates. we should be counting delegates. arizona is one of the last states that has pure winner-take-all. if you get even one more vote than your opponent statewide in arizona, you get all 29 delegates to the republican national convention. romney is way ahead. he is going to get all 29 delegates from arizona. so he will win the delegate contest tonight. he will split the delegates more or less with santorum in michigan but romney will win the delegate battle tonight. bill: larry,, thank you. we'll see how the forecast plays out. larry sab toshgs university of virginia. we'll talk again. laying the table or setting the table for us. patti ann. patti ann: as larry said the delegate fight is key. there are 30 up for grabs in michigan and 29 on the line in arizona. there is also early voting in arizona. this is where the candidates stand. mitt romney in the lead with 123 delegates. rick santorum in second with 72. a candidate needs 1144 delegates to secure the republican nomination. bill: so then make sure you keep it here on the fox news channel all night long. full coverage the primaries through the the day. special coverage 6:00 eastern time on "special report" with bret. and 9:00 okay eastern time with bret and megyn. fox news channel your headquarters for election 2012. patti ann: mitt romney bringing out the big guns in michigan. detroit rock star kid rock jamming out for romney during a campaign rally. >> i'm happy to introduce a son of detroit, a friend, a guy who makes great music who introduces me by dvd everywhere i go. kid rock. ♪ . ♪ i was born free] patti ann: rock singing a live version of "born free". the campaign song of the campaign. the two went behind closed doors when romney went to the singer's home in michigan. new details on the deadly school shooting in ohio. here is what we know. one student is dead. another brain-dead and three are still hospitalized. that is five people total who were shot when the teen gunman opened fire yesterday morning. witnesses say the attacker walked into the cafeteria during breakfast, pulled out a gun and started shooting. one witness said he targeted a group of kids sitting at a particular table. hear is the dramatic call for police moments after shots rang out. >> we have three students down in the cafeteria at this time. we still don't know where the shooter is. patti ann: steve centanni is live in cleveland, ohio. hi, steve, what more do we know about this latest victim? >> reporter: the latest victim is identified as 17-year-old russell king, jr.. said to be a good student, socialable young man, very quick to smile. he was a student at a vocational school nearby. he went there in the morning and back to chardon high school for afternoon classes. memorial services are, planned. candlelight vigils are in churches around the city of chardon which is in shock and grief after these shootings. candlelight vigil at a church in downtown chardon. the other victim was identified yesterday. he is 16-year-old, danny parmetur. he is described as a bright boy with a bright future. he was the first to succumb to the gone shot wounds inflicted in the cafeteria. patti ann: the shooter is in custody. what's the latest with him? >> reporter: that's right. he is expected in court today. a juvenile court hearing, detention hearing to determine whether or not he will continue to be held by juvenile authorities by the sheriff's department. he being questioned. the investigation continues investigators have a long ways to go to put all the pieces together in this case why he would have opened fire suddenly in that school cafeteria yesterday. but, some of the students who knew it. j lane described him as and here is some of what they had to say. >> he didn't seem any different. he seemed just how he would be on a normal day. he didn't show any expression on his face. he was just, he was just t.j.. >> he seemed like he was sweet and not anything wrong with him. >> amazing what some people have hiding inside of them. >> reporter: there were pictures on twitter purported to be t.j. lane released just before the shooting showing him holding guns and holding up a sign with the date on it. turned out to be sunday's date, not monday's date. back to you guys. patti ann: steve centanni live in ohio. bill: on and on we're hearing new and frightening descriptions the moments the shots were fired. listen how some of the students described their panic. >> it was terror. everything had just gone tunnel vision. like i, i need to get out of here. you see glances of your friends laying all over the place. there is blood. there is people screaming. everybody is running in different directions. and you're just trying to get out. >> saw part of it, kind of the end of it go down and stuff, victims laying there. >> i never forget his face, the gun and the sound. bill: schools in that district are closed today. understandably so. administrators say grief counselors are on hand for students. any faculty shaken up by the tragedy. patti ann: well, filling up your car just got even more expensive. the average gas price rising again overnight. the 23rd day in a row. according to aaa the national average is up about two cents to the $3.72 a gallon. the soaring prices changing the way companies are doing is about. in texas, some gas stations are offering in-store discounts to hook customers. >> reason i come here i can always find $5 they want me to spend inside to get me the 10 cent discount. >> locked gas cap --. patti ann: experts say prices could soar past the $4 mark by end of april. bill: she is great, huh? saying what we're all saying what we're thinking every time we pull up there. some of the many stories we're watching this morning in "america's newsroom." there is a state, one state anyway, borrowing money from the pension fund to pay for the pension fund. does that sound crazy? it could happen in other states too. talk about a shakedown. patti ann: a plane's nose gear collapses during an emergency landing. we'll tell you where it happened. bill: a michigan melee. mitt romney said rick santorum sunk to a new low. what he dived and whether or not it was fair game. you decide. >> i think it is outrage just and disgusting, a terrible dirty trick last hour, by the way, late afternoon on day of election, hoping no one would notice, sending out calls to democrats and union votersers to go into the republican primary to vote against mitt romney. patti ann: the man who once played tarzan is now in trouble with the law. authorities raiding steve sipik's home removing two tigers and a leopard. the former actor arrested for not having appropriate permits to keep the animals. he argued he has done nothing wrong and planning to get his cats back. >> they say i'm breaking the law. i never broke the law in my whole life. >> unfortunately whether because of a financial matter or other reasons, he has not been able to bring his facility up to certain standards that are required by law. patti ann: sipek had his federal permit to enown the animals revoked in 2004 when his 600 pound tiger escaped and was shot dead. bill: state pension fund across the u.s. facing a multitrillion dollar short fall. there is new report that focuses on one state, new york and it's unusual civil for paying out benefits. cities in new york are borrowing from the $140 billion pension fund that they're supposed to be contributing to. john fund, senior editor, "american spectator" writes about this topic a lot. john, good morning. welcome back here. what is going on now? they're borrowing from the fund that is already underwater? >> you have heard of robbing peter to pay paul? this is it. this is a big gamble because what these cities and counties are doing is, around the state of new york as well, they're saying, look, we can't afford our pension costs. so rather than change the pension formulas, rather than dial back some of the benefits we're going to borrow from the pension fund that we're drawing from. this is like the new york lottery on steroids except the return is probably just as problematic. it is insane! this is exactly how new york city got into trouble in the 1970s. it borrowed money paved on something called revenue anticipation. it said well we expect to get the revenue the next few years so let's borrow money on it. the revenue didn't come in and new york city almost went under. bill: there are two ways looking at this and i will pose them both to you. those who support the idea, we're going through a rough period. we need to smooth things over. once the economy comes back we'll be okay. how do you buy it? >> how many of those same people predicted four years ago the economy would be still in this much trouble? none of them. you can't anticipate the future. if you're going to make promises on pensions you have to have enough money in the kitty or you have to scale back the benefits. several states have done that utah recently put all of their state employees on defined contribution plans. these are like 401(k)s. look, only 15% of private sector workers today have a traditional pension, a defined benefit pension. over 80% of public employees have a defined benefit pension which is much richer and much better. we have to equalize the bills. people bay paying bills for public employees can't have pensions more valuable. bill: this is slilt of hand you say. this is shell game. you have to guess where the money is going? >> can go out to times square right now, a few blocks from here and find a guy playing three card man tee and might be a pension consultant for the state of new york. bill: i advise you not to do that if you do, take a camera. here in the state of new york retirement fund, third largest u.s. public pension. more than a million members, retirees, beneficiaries in the system. number of retirees increasing more quickly than members joining s new york alone in this? are you finding this another states? >> almost every state has not adequately paid for its pensions. new york city is the worst. its pension costs gone up six times in the last decade. illinois is in real trouble. i find at least four or five states will run out of money for their pensions in the next three or four years. we have got to do something about it. the way to do it is, we have to go to more sustainable pension plans. get people in defined contribution plans, 401. cans encourage them to save for their own. otherwise these pensions will leave little or no money for other things we want to do. building roads. paying for schools. if pensions get so big other essential government services have to shrink. that is not good for the economy or society. bill: your point is well-taken. you call it an outrage and dangerous. indeed it can be on the budget. side. john fund, thank you. we'll keep eye on that. because it ain't going anywhere. thank you, john. patti ann: it was a wild finish to this year's daytona 500. >> here is, jr. to the outside. side by side with kenseth. matt kenseth wins the daytona 500. patti ann: from fire to rain, matt kenseth taking home the trophy in one of the most bizarre races in history. bill: did you see what happened near the end of the race. patti ann: we'll have more on that. bill: just got over a few hours ago. dying for your faith. an execution is looming for this christian pastor in the country of iran. anything not moving forward... is moving backward. 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[ male announcer ] want great taste and whole gin oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios. >> matt kenseth trying to win it for the second time. here comes junior to the outside. side by side with kenseth. matt kenseth wins the daytona 500!. patti ann: nascar fans seeing fire, rain and a historic delay at the daytona 500. but perhaps the biggest story of the day wasn't matt kenseth's victory you just saw but this. >> safety workers quickly on the scene. and this is a bizarre twist to this daytona 500. down in turn number three. patti ann: driver juan pablo montoya colliding with the jet dryer used to dry off the track and that caused a huge fireball that delayed the race over two hours. luckily everybody is okay. julie banderas live in our new york city newsroom. walk us through the end of that race. pretty dramatic. >> reporter: even if you didn't stay up and you probably didn't to watch it because it ended in early morning hours. a crazy 36 hours of nascar ended with matt kenseth the winner. ending anti-climactic after the crash that happened. juan pablo montoya's car plunged into a safety truck causing instant explosion of jet fuel inside that thing. the truck carrying and drying the track held 200 gallons of karo even -- kerosene that poured down the surface of turn three, creating a fiery explosion at nascar's biggest race of the year. montoya escaped relatively unharmed and his helmet was sinked and foot ached. he felt a vie abrasion in the car when it turned to the right. freak accident and massive fire stopping race for two hours. finishing at 1:00 a.m. in the morning. workers used tide laundry detergent. when the debris was cleared it was kenseth's race to lose and he won it with considerable lead. >> it was a tough one for us. first weekend with best buy and be able to win the 150s gatorade dual and back it up and win the 500 especially with all the little problems we had. we had a lot going on yesterday. feels pretty cool to be able to win the races. >> reporter: he held off dale earnhardt, jr. and roush racing teammate greg biffle during everytime finish. certainly exciting to the end. patti ann: absolutely. this was not the first mishap even at the race, was it? >> reporter: certainly was not. from start to finish drama. the event will not be remembered for actual racing or all the fluke things that plagued it. day long race was scheduled to begin sunday afternoon. look at that. rain. doesn't make for good racing conditions t ended in the early morning hours tuesday. rain delays would force nascar to push the race from sunday to monday afternoon. making it first-ever sunday into monday delay in the race's history. then monday night for the first-ever daytona 500 in prime time television. so a lot of people were watching. i guess that is the good news in all of this. patti ann: all right. julie banderas live for us, thank you. >> reporter: sure. bill: think about a rainout on sunday and a rainout on monday. patti ann: i know. bill: i turned it off at 140 laps left out of a 200 lap race. the thing went to 1:00 in the morning. they will not forget this one. want to take to you michigan. that is mitt romney up and early on the stump, 9:30 local time there? he has got a battle with rick santorum. this could be a late, late night later this evening. your wallet is getting lighter. you know that. gas prices on the climb to 4 bucks a gallon. look out america. can anything be done from washington? senator rand paul on deck will join us with his ideas to reverse that trend. your finances can't manage themselves. but that doesn't mean they won't try. bring all your finances together with the help of the one person who can. a certified financial planner professional. cfp. let's make plan. aaaaask me. 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>> reporter: iran is becoming increasingly isolated here because of their nuclear program. there is threats of heavy sanctions. we're told iranian regime is increasing number of executions. you may get into a situation where youcef become as bargaining chip on the world stage. secretary of state hillary clinton has weighed in and members of congress and number of foreign governments says though think the execution is absolutely abhorrent and it should not happen. the problem is as iran is becoming increasingly isolated here, even normally neutral nations or at least those have friendly nations relations with iran don't have the kind of bargaining power they used to exert some kind of control over tehran. patti ann: leland vittert live in jerusalem. thank you. bill: homeland security secretary janet napolitano is in mexico city, assuring officials in mexico that the war on drugs is not a failure. napolitano was also asked why the u.s. and mexico have not been able to capture one of mexico's most notorious drug lords. her answer. >> let me just say it took us 10 years to find osama bin laden. and we found him. and you know what happened there. i'm not suggesting the same thing would happen with guzman but i am suggesting that we are persistent. bill: in the meantime, 48,000 people have been killed in mexico since december of 2006. that number is going higher. nonetheless --. gas prices climbing for the 21st day in a row. that is three weeks. according to aaa the average price for a gallon of regular now $3.72. up two cents while you were sleeping overnight. since the beginning of the year we've seen prices shoot up, inching closer to $4 a gallon on average. what do you do to reverse the trend? republican senator rand paul out of kentucky has ideas. member of the senate tea party caucus. senator, good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: how do we turn this thing around? >> well, you know, number one it is important to know that the price of gas is not really rising so much as the value of your dollar is shrinking. when you run a massive deficit and a debt like the united states is running, what we do we print up money. when we print up money, you lose the value of the current money. so what is happening the value of your dollar is shrinking and consequently the price at pump is higher. this is happening in food and other items as well. very hard on the working class and very hard on senior citizens but it is all related to the massive debt and i think the president bear as lot of responsibility for this massive debt. bill: why is that? >> well, you know he has increased spending enormously. we're spending one in four dollars in the economy is spent in washington. this profligate spending is causing prices to rise and ultimately you can destroy a currency. i have in my office a 100 trillion dollar note from zimbabwe. my hope we don't become zimbabwe. some say, oh, america could never become zimbabwe. if we keep printing money and running massive debts we'll destroy our currency. we're seeing early stages of rising prices. it all has to do with the debt and big government. that's why we have to change what we're doing up here. bill: the white house would argue iran plays a big factor in this. do you buy that? >> there is emotions to price. prices respond in a speculative fashion when people fear disruption of supply but i think it also has to do with the fact we're not making enough and producing enough oil in the united states. you know, we've had essentially a moratorium on offshore drilling in the united states. we aren't opening up new drilling areas in alaska. we have a moratorium on nuclear power in many states around the country. this administration is cracking down on the technique called fracking for getting natural gas out of the ground. so really we have had a very unfriendly environment for energy production. on top of that, they now are shutting down the pipeline. so this administration has done nothing to increase supply. they have gone begging around the world for other countries to produce oil but we haven't been producing it here. so it is a combination of a lot of things. shrinking value of the dollar. not expanding the supply and also some of the speculation based on fears of war in the middle east. bill: when you mentioned the pipeline i assume you're talking about keystone? >> yes. bill: would keystone, would keystone play a big factor today in gas prices do you believe? >> well i wouldn't say an enormous factor but it is part of the factors that factor into what the prices. so, yes, by all means it helps jobs. 20,000 jobs to build the pipeline and also helps supply. anything you do to increase domestic supply helps to keep prices down. everything this president is doing is really, has done nothing to expand domestic supply. and that is a factor in the price of gasoline. but the other factor that's really important is this massive debt. we need to let people know that the debt is connected to prices rising. bill: just stay on keystone for a moment. there are those who argue that it would take a long period of time before this pipeline sup and operating that would have no impact on what we're experiencing now. >> yes. bill: the argument you're making seems to defy that do i hear you right? >> i would say oh, because of the pipeline that is why gas prices are x. i would say that they are a factor though and domestic supply is a factor in the price of gasoline. the fact we're not drilling in 2/3 or more of our offshore regions, all of these are factors. no one factor is causing it. but the real question is, does the president bear responsibility, and i say yes because he is run up a massive debt and that is what is destroiing the value of your dollar. bill: understand your point on that. why do you think washington, is okay with this? seems like we talk about this if not every two years, every four years. >> yeah and i think that it's one of the things we as republicans need to do a better job explaining because the people who get hurt worst by rising prices are working class and senior citizens on fixed income. we need to let them know big government is not their friend. running up massive deficits is what causes the price to go up at the pump. bill: rand paul, thank you for your time. we'll speak again very soon. >> thank you. bill: senator from kentucky with me today. thank you. patti ann: a scary emergency landing for passengers onboard a united express jet. the plane had landing gear problems that forced it to land belly-down at newark international airport in new jersey. the pilots managed to land the plane safely. here is their conversation with air traffic control. >> departure, 5124 level at 2000 with a gear issue. need a few minutes to check it out. >> on this approach we're getting down in a fuel situation. we're going to know it is completely down in a lock. so i would like to declare an emergency at this time and request fire rescue check us out we get there. patti ann: boy, they sure stayed calm. passengers and crew were empty met by emergency crews on the ground where some of them described the scary moments. >> the plane from. from ato will be doing emergency landing. the landing gear will not open, i love you. that is unbelievable. you see a text, i'm at work. looking at this text. unbelievable. what do you think? i had to leave work. what is she thinking what are they thinking on this plane? patti ann: thankfully no one was hurt in the incident. bill: tell you what, the pilot did on board the plane was miraculous. you see it leaning on the tarmac or the runway and this is the end result you get. patti ann: yeah. bill: thankfully it appears the rear wheels came down and they did what they were supposed to do. just the wheel in the front of that plane that gave way. patti ann: right. bill: they capture the emotion of passengers on board, they weren't sure what in the world was going to happen. patti ann: now with texting they have the opportunity to say their final good-byes and obviously the loved one of that man who we heard from got a message from a woman terrifying. bill: they say keep phones off during a plane. if you drop to certain altitude you know a text message does transmit. patti ann: yes. bill: that's what we're seeing the result on board. patti ann: it all worked out. bill: everybody is cool. nicely done to the crew on board there. senator rand paul just mentioned keystone. that oil pipeline to america's gulf coast hay not be dead after all. transcanada, that is the company, ha as new proposal, a plan b we'll talk to the ceo of the company behind the deal to tell us what that's all about. patti ann: and a live look at lavonia, michigan. mitt romney speaking to the crowd as the folks head to the polls to vote. romney accusing rick santorum of dirty tricks. we'll have that next. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] help brazil reduce its overall reliance on foreign imports with the launch of the country's largest petrochemical operation. ♪ when emerson takes up the challenge, "it's never been done before" simply bemes consider it solved. emerson. ♪ since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first wee.. i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. 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it is open to democrats. santorum says of course he wants to start reaching out to them. needs them in the general. is that valid. >> of course it is valid. if mitt romney thinks this is low in politics this is not bean bags as mayor daley used to say. this get out of it, mitt. this will be a tough campaign. if you can't take that you've got a real problem. shows me frankly how easy it is to get under romney's skin. patti ann: yeah. so meanwhile, president obama said it is everyone's dream to go to college. santorum called him a snob. ask you andrea, does that feed into this theme that president obama is an elitist? >> well i think what rick santorum was saying was that not everybody in the united states of america is fit for college. i think he was trying to make the case for training maybe in vocational technical schools. you know, college tuition has gone through the roof. now parents are convinced around this country they need to go in debt or kids need to go in debt to get a four-year degree where they are studying things like history of bubbles. they're being forced fed this liberal agenda with climbing walls and lattes in bars. college right now is really expensive. i think what rick santorum was trying to say, not everybody needs to go into debt. there is plenty of training. they can get. and that, frankly, yeah, president obama is acting a bit elitist and a bit snobby. >> bob, romney said i wouldn't go as sfar calling the president a snob but it is important americans can realize whatever dream they want. for some people that is trade or going to work after a high school. who won the whole debate. >> i think santorum probably won it. for mitt romney saying anybody is snob he has that problem. talk about one robo call. you think that is it serious robo call? i had a candidate once had vicious robo calls against him. we didn't get mad. we put on robo call favor of our candidate. we ran it midnight election night until 7:00 in the morning every hour on the hour. got everybody in the district furious. that won the campaign. that is tough one. mitt would not be able to handle that. >> you see what i'm dealing with on "the five." bob beckel doesn't get mad. he gets even. watch your back. patti ann: living well is the best revenge. quickly what happens today in michigan and arizona, bob? >> i say obviously arizona is pretty much over. romney will win there. i think in the end he will win in michigan but it will be very narrow. patti ann: andrea. >> it will be very narrow i agree. he outspent rick santorum 40 to 1. to get this win he had to spend a lot of money. this is really a turning point. arizona's winner-take-all. michigan is proportional. if mitt romney does not win today it will be a disaster for his campaign. patti ann: andrea, bob, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. bill: do you think they will be busy today? 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[ female announcer ] discover what's next in your life. get this free travel bag when you join at aarp.org/jointoday. ♪ . bill: time to wake up, brown. patti ann: i like it. i like it. new rules could be on the way for automakers. regulators want all new cars to be required to have rear view cameras by the year 2014. consumer safety advocates say this is big step protecting people on the outside of the vehicle. reports show on average two children die and about 50 are injured every week when someone accidentally backs over them. bill: happened yet again. just a month after that deadly shipwreck in italy the costa cruise line has another nightmare to deal with and so do the passengers. crews are toasting the costa alegra in the indian ocean. more than a thousand people on board the ship. those waters known as pirate infested waters near the seychelles. we're told a fire knocked out on the vessel. officials in the seychelles showing concern. >> it is a risk. we do have pirates in the west indian ocean. fortunately none was sighted within the vicinity of this vessel but it is a risk and we advise any ship that traveled that far away from the main island to have armed guards on board. and this cruise ship would have those armed fards to board if they were were attacked. bill: the cruise line says the crippled ship may not reach land until tomorrow. greg burke streaming lime from rome. back on the story again. what happened this time, gregg? >> reporter:. bill:, that is right. this ship was on its way from madagascar to the seychelles yesterday. out in the middle of know where yesterday in the indian ocean a fire in the generator room knocked out power and air-conditioning. this ship is one-third the size of the concordia which you remember from january. there are over a thousand people between passengers and crew on there. so it has become a miserable time for them. the first several hours they were absolutely adrift. at this point, they're actually being towed. the first ship to come was a french fishing ship which arrived and now some tugs as well. it is a beautiful area. beautiful of course when you're on an island or ship that is going someplace. completely different story as things are right now. there were no injuries reported although there is obviously a lot of nervousness as you were talking about. the pirates, they don't think that is really high-risk right now the pirates but certainly a miserable trip. they may not hit land until tomorrow. that is the nearest island. now they say they may not get off the ship until they hit a bigger island on thursday. bill? bill: you wonder about the future for this company, costa. can it recover from two big blows like this within a few months? >> you know, we all know the name for all the wrong reasons. costa concordia and now costa alegra. getting out of that will be tough. obviously they will offer a lost discounts and all the rest but it is going to be a major problem for. the one thing the company has sent people there. they're trying to get everything fixed. but fixing their reputation will be a whole another story. bill: i bet. greg burke, thank you. stay on it, when there are more headlines we'll pass it on to our viewers here in the u.s. thank you, greg. patti ann, what is coming up. patti ann: michigan's native son mitt romney looking to stay ahead of the game by winning today's primary. what if rick santorum pulls off a victory in his home state? bill: new details about the shooter in ohio. did a troubled home life lead him to kill and what clues has he left behind? >> we're in shock. we don't know what to do right now. it is one of those things you have to sit back and let god be god. a lot of patients are using toothpaste to clean their dentures. you really want to be careful, you can't use something as abrasive as a toothpaste because it will cause scratches. as a result of those scratches, bacteria will get lodged in that denture and as they multiply in the 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change everything in this race. brand new hour in ""america's newsroom"", great to have you with us today, i'm bill hemmer, how you doing? >> patti ann: i'm patti ann brown in for martha mccall. it's been an intense few weeks of campaigning and it comes down to this. >> it's been fun these last ten days or so, we started down 15 points in the polls, now we're leading in the polls. >> i've been up to the u.p., and had a pastie for breakfast yesterday morning, how's that? i feel like an initiated michigander right now, we've been traveling all over the state and we're excited about the response. i think we're going to surprise a few people. >> i think the only thing he was missing in that address was a university of michigan baseball hat. how you doing, chris stierwalt, digital politics editor and contributor to fox news.com. i want you to do something for us, okay? why is michigan as close as it is? analyze that. >> okay. well, here's the deal about michigan. michigan is a democratic state, by in large, but there are a ton of republican vote thrers and the republican who is are there tend to be very conservative, so it's easiest to think about the state as split in half. you have the detroit metropolitan area which tends to be more moderate, suburban republican. then you have the rest of the state, which is very conservative, and tends toward the tea party attitude, tends toward some very staunch social conservative, so you have a state where mitt romney who's from michigan will do well in the suburbs where he was born and raised, then rick santorum will do well in the parts of the state where that sort of unalloyed conservatism holds sway. this is a decision where it comes down to, it shouldn't be surprising, basically a photo finish and we have to wait until the votes get in. bill: i'm going to go to the tough screen billboard and i'm going to analyze something and want you to react, okay? this is michigan, results of 2008, romney beating mccain by nine points in the state of michigan, his native state -- native state. romney is in orange, the southeastern area, what he's talking about, near detroit, i want to key in on this, on four counties, north of detroit is oakland county, a lot of votes in this county, romney won it over mccain by 20 points, four years ago. but to the east is mccomb county, a lot of votes in it county as well, romney, similar outcome, 20 points over mccain, but this is a county where you find the reaganand if santorum is to win he has to do well in places like mccomb county. agreed in. >> absolutely right. you point out oakland county, which is the biggest probe of republican votes in the state. there were some 140,000 votes in the 2008 election. it's divided in half basically by interstate 75. go on the west side, those are more upscale, where romney was born, like bloomfield hill, but towards mccomb county you have santorum, blue collar type votees, the way he threatens romney is by going into his break basket, suburban detroit, and places like sterling heights, where the economic affection and staunch catholicism has played well with voters. bill: we'll be able to get a gauge how santorum is doing based on mccomb county. jump to grand rapids, this is gerald ford country, the presidential museum is there in grand rapiddings, ken county, romney won over mccain by less, about seven points, four years ago, but these are social conservatives. then to ottawa county to the west, you find a lot of votes as well, romney won that by five points also four years ago, but these are religious conservatives, also, and if santorum is going to win he has to do very well in both of these locations. agreed or not? >> absolutely agreed. if you look at the map you see that corridor of romney support in 2008 that came over from detroit all the way out to grand rapids, putting together all the moderate voters in the state in the larger metropolitan area. if santorum is going to do well, and you hit it well, kent county has a ton of votes in grand rapids but in the suburban area on the lake shore there are conservatives, members of the dutch reform church, mike huckabee did an okay number out there, there's a large probe of votes out there and the name of the game for santorum is nibble away, cut into romney's points of strength, then count on the very conservative folks in the rest of the state to carry the day for him. bill: we'll see you at 11:30, foxnews.com. i'm looking forward to that, and your sense of humor, actually! see you chris. >> patti ann: though romney and santorum are the frontrunners, ron paul is fighting for votes in the wolverine state, he reached out to fellow doctors in dearborn, michigan, the ob/gyn doctor and flight surgeon rallies about liberty. >> obviously, not all the questions, there are always going to be some problems, but turning so much over to government, whether it's housing or medical care or how we live just leads to more trouble. but if you understand the concept of liberty, liberty is our own, and we have rights and we have responsibilities. but it should not be divisive. bill: wow. meanwhile, newt gingrich is hoping to kick his campaign back into high gear, mostly skipping both michigan and arizona for a chance of a comeback on supertuesday. that's a week from today in places like oklahoma, tennessee, georgia. gingrich, launching an aggressive tour of the south ahead of next week's vote. >> i think we've decided that we had a much better chance in tennessee, georgia, oklahoma, ohio, idaho, even in some places like vermont and north dakota, so we decided to focus our resources where we had the best chance. bill: don't forget we are your number one source for election news. later tonight we'll follow all the action on arizona and michigan throughout the day, prime time coverage starts at 6:00 with bret, then bret and megyn host the coverage in this location for all of america to watch and see. should be some drama. patti ann: oh yeah. well, israel now says it will not warn the united states if it takes military action against iran. the country saying this decision is ultimately in america's best interest. meanwhile, the israeli people are already talking about the possibility of such an attack. >> i believe, as radical as they are, they will never use it, because this means wiping out their own country. the consequences can be severe. >> i know israel could do damage but i don't know if they could wipe it out completely. i think probably only the united states could do the whole job. but i don't think obama is going to do anything. patti ann: joining us now, senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler. hi wendell. what is the reason for israel making the statement that will not give the us us a heads up. >> patti ann, this is the latest in a series of u.s. and israeli pronouncements intended to convince iran that it faces a genuine military threat if it won't give up its nuclear program, even if the u.s. and israel are completely in sync about when to pull the trigger. remember joint chiefs chairman martin dempsey said recently it's not yet prudent at this time to decide to attack iran. the israelis making clear today they don't necessarily agree with that. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is headed here for talks with the president next week and for a speech to the main jewish lobby this weekend and the rally -- israelis won iran to know they are not looking for anything like permission from the u.s. before launching an attack. this also serves to decrease the likelihood that other countries will blame the u.s. for the attack, though iran certainly will, patti ann. patti ann: wendell goler reporting live for us from washington, thank you. bill: we have high profile republican governors slamming president obama for his administration's mandates and regulations on states. in aby partisan meeting with the president on monday, they pressed him to recent -- less regulations that they say are interfering with states' ability to gone themselves. >> we disagree with this president. he has failed when it comes to tax policy, spending polices, borrowing policy, energy policy, health care policy. the reality is, i've got two fundamental concerns with this administration, first, their ideology, goning from the extreme left and second, their compass. this has not been a competent presidency. >> it's incredibly frustrating for me as a new governor coming in, facing unemployment. i'd just like to be a gand take care of my state. this president is trying to handle the entire canada he's failing terribly. bill: i would guess that meeting did not go so well. the governors were in washington for the annual governors' association meeting on monday. patti ann: well, the president's health care law could become a stumbling block in his reelection efforts. half of the country likes it but the other half want it is repealed and that's true of half the states as well and pam bondi is attorney general of florida, one of 26 states challenging the law and she's here with us to give us an insight. bill: also remember the keystone oil pipeline blocked by the white house. it looks like a modified version, plan b will happen. the company of that cobehind the project is here live to explain that. path pat what lessons can be learned from the deadly ohio school shooting and what would lead a teenage boy to such tragic violence? we're going to talk with a child psychologist about that. >> the people that were in the cafeteria, i knew some of them, they were in some of my study halls. >> they were really like nice. they didn't -- they just were funny, nice people. >> chardon is just a small little town and it's really hard, just -- yeah. >> on patti ann: some good news about the economy just into "america's newsroom". consumer confidence was up in february. private research group saying it is the highest level, in fact, in a year. economists are saying that this is a key report to watch because consumer spending accounts for about 70 percent of economic activity. so good news there. bill: it is. on wall street, we're treading water, huh? we're not moving at all. a new poll shows that americans are sharply divided over whether to repeal president obama's health care law. this is what gallup find, now. 47 percent say they want a republican president to repeal it, 44 percent say they are against that. well, pam bondi is florida's attorney general and florida is one of 26 states challenging that law. good morning to you down there in tallahassee! welcome back here. your reaction to -- >> thanks good morning. bill: does that tell you much that, 47-44 number? >> noo \on/zero you know what it tells us, this law, this mandate is unconstitutional. and that's what we've argued from day one. that's what we will continue to argue. and that's why we are in front of the united states supreme court in march. bill bill all right. well, also the poll shows specifically when they're asked about the mandate, remember, that survey we just showed was about the entire law, but on the mandate, 72 percent believe that this individual mandate is unconstitutional. >> right. bill: only 20 percent believe it is within constitutional grounds. and that goes to your argument. >> absolutely. as chief legal officer of florida, and 25 other states in the national federation of independent businesses have joined in the lawsuit with us, we firmly believe it is unconstitutional. there's not a case that says otherwise. and we are looking forward to having finality to this issue, and as you know, we have three days in march, march 26th-28th, 5 1/2 hours, in front of the united states supreme court, and we're really looking forward to that. bill: have you endorsed a republican candidate for the white house, pam? >> i absolutely have. i have endorsed governor mitt romney. i'm very proud to be part of this. you know i moderated a fox presidential debate so i waited until after then, i got to know all the candidates and i firmly believe that governor romney is best qualified to lead our country and to beat barack obama in the general election. bill: the reason i ask you, in the same polling on gallup they find he has a bit of a problem on health care and what they found is 27 percent say they are less likely to support him because of the massachusetts law that he signed that requires residents there to have coverage. and what his argument is is that we're covering a much smaller percentage of the people in our state as opposed to the health care law that was passed nationally. now, how is he going to deal with this do you think? >> well, bill, you know, that's a state issue, and that's what this is all about. this is about whether the federal government can force a universal health care plan on every state in the nation, and that has to be an individual decision by each state. and i'll tell you, just to tell you another thing, the majority of the states in this lawsuit, whether they be governors or attorneys general, have endorsed mitt romney for president. bill: also in the polls, in the swing states, and this is really where this battle is going to be waged with him november, they found that 53 percent of swing state voters see the health care reforms as a bad thing. what's that tell you? >> well, it tells me that we need to get to the u.s. supreme court as soon as possible. and you know, that's the one thing where the federal government and the states, we agree, that we have to have finality. you know the reality is everywhere i go throughout the state, businesses aren't hiring because they don't know what's going to happen and whether they're going to be put out of business as a result of the tremendous cost of this mandate. bill: i know you have legal action this week that supports your argument to go forward. is that significant? >> it is. and it's called the anti-- basically in simple terms, what that means, you cannot enforce attacks -- enforce a tax until that tax has actually been paid and that was basically a stall tactic by other courts who wanted to avoid hearing the issue. but generally speaking, the federal government and the states agree, as you know, the budget director for president obama said less than two weeks ago, this is an attack. he said that in front of congress. and we've all been hearing president obama say this is not a tax. the main argument, of course -- >> bill: i have to run, but do you feel growing confidence or less confident the closer you get to the arguments with the supreme court? >> you know, we have been given an unprecedented 5 1/2 hours in front of the u.s. supreme court over a three-day period and all i can say is we are confident that these justices will follow the law, and this mandate is unconstitutional. bill: pam bondi, thank you for your time. we'll speak again before the arts get underway. patti ann: deadly violence in afghanistan is raising serious questions over the mission there. should antiamerican sentiment change the game plan? we'll talk about it. bill: that mission to mars, will it happen? nasa seeing red over the president's cuts to that program but they are not giving up just yet. we'll tell you why. bill: here we go at 20 minutes past the hour. top story, occupy london getting the boot from its camp outside saint paul's cathedral. health problems there and complaints from nearby businesses bringing an end to one of the longest encampments. >> mother nature bringing weather our way with snowfall and low visibility. >> and british photographer paul conwoy is safe after being smuggled out of syria, a rocket attack killed two colleagues, including marie fulgram. patti ann: the obama administration says it will not falter in its commitment toss afghanistan. antiamerican violence in that country erupted following the accidental burning of korans at a u.s. military base. four u.s. service members have been killed since those riots began. general jack keane is a retired four star general and former vice chief of staff of the army and fox news military analyst. thank you for joining us general. >> good to see you patti ann patti ann: some say this rioting is a sign we need to stay, others say it is a sign to leave. what is it? >> it's strained the relationship, that's certainly the case, but we've got a 10-plus year relationship with the afghans, it's a strong commitment we have, and it's a true partnership. what's really interesting, last summer, all the leaders of afghanistan came together in what they refer to as -- one of the decrees, they wanted an endure, long term strategic partnership with the united states and america. i think the relationship is pretty solid. patti ann: there is certainly a perception now that there is growing antiu.s. sentiment, but you say that actually, that's a misperception. this is just a visible minority who feel that way. >> what's really taking place here, we certainly had a justifiable situation in terms of people being upset over the koran burning but now the taliban and other stakeholders are exploiting this issue. you see the people in the streets carrying taliban flags, they are truly trying to undermine the government of karzai and certainly the nato and u.s. presence there. and it manslaughter cer aids the truly good relationship we have in the villages with the community the and the people, in the school, that we've worked on for years, and our soldiers and the civilians that are working side by side with them truly have forged that relationship based on mutual respect and that's very solid. patti ann: nonetheless, this new incident has led to questions about what exactly is our goal there. a pentagon spokesman says one of the goals is to ensure the future for the afghan people but white house spokesman jay carney says the number one goal is to dismantle al-qaeda. >> what we have to do is defeat the taliban in afghanistan who provides sanctuary for the al-qaeda. they have a collaborative effort and to do that we have turned a situation in the south, relatively stable and secure now, and the momentum has shifted to our favor in the east. we'll need this year and all of next year to complete that campaign that we're doing in the east. patti ann: but a lot of progress has been made. but now what about this whole incident with the burning of the koran? did the u.s. handle it properly? >> well certainly, the actual incident itself, you look at it, it's got to be bone-headed mistake, i mean, to do something like that, certainly. i think when anything dealing with the koran, whenever we're dealing with that, in this country and some other countries, we have an issue with it, just give it to the afghan mullahs, give it to the clerics and let them deal with it, they'll know how to dispose of it and deal with the issue and we should keep our hands off of it. certainly i know our guys have learned a lesson from this thing and they'll put polices in place to make certain it doesn't recur. patti ann: what about the apology? >> i think apologies are appropriate. i mean, we apologize when we kill innocent afghan people, certainly, and apology coming from general allen, secretary panetta, i think the apology from the president was appropriate given the fact that karzai is a weak leader, he never gets out of his office and this encourages karzai to get out of his office, go see the parliament. he appeals to the parliamentarian leaders to go out and calm the people and he read the president's apology paragraph that was in the letter, so i think all the president was doing was trying to strengthen the weak hand he knows in karzai >> patti ann: general jack keane, thank you for joining us. bill: in a moment, the innocence trapped in syria, captured on tape, crying out for help, pleading for an end to the violence that's left thousands and thousands dead. and we're learning more about a suspected 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[ major nutrition ] ensure. nutrition in charge! bill: 10:30 in new york, polls are open in two states, michigan and arizona. these states have two things in common they would rather not have. one is on the economy. it's been brutal in both place and foreclosure rates in those states, michigan and arizona, are much higher than acceptable. unemployment rate today in michigan, 9.3%. that's a full point higher than the national average. i mentioned the foreclosure rate. michigan is about number six in the country today. number three in the country in terms of foreclosures, arizona. three behind nevada and california. the unemployment rate, higher than the national average at 8.7%. so you see now these two issues come together and they collide during this primary vote. the other issue to consider in arizona is illegal immigration. that's a border state. so how will that factor in today's vote? john roberts, live from the polls site in phoenix, arizona with more from there and john, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. yeah, illegal immigration obviously a big issue in a state where the department of justice has challenged sb1070, the immigration law here, and where sheriff joe arpaio who made his reputation on the enforcement of illegal immigration has come under scrutiny and investigation from the department of justice. it's not the only issue. you mentioned unemployment, half a percent above the national average, the foreclosure rate, which kind of goes back and forth between second and third worst in the nation. even for sheriff joe arpaio, immigration is not the only issue. i talked to him yesterday. here's what he told me. >> everybody talks about illegal immigration. that's one issue that i'm concerned with. not totally. because a president has to look at the big picture. so i look at the big picture, also. not just about border security or immigration. >> reporter: joe arpaio back in 2008 endorsed mitt romney. last year, he endorsed rick perry of texas. of course, with perry not in the race arpaio told me he's still not sure if he's going to endorse anyone, and he can't figure out why everybody is stepping on mitt romney's bandwagon because he says he's not changed the -- changed in the last four years. bill: how many undecided voters are there? >> there are still quite a few when you talk about it anecdotally. we don't have the exact statistic, in the real clear politics average, mitt romney is up five points, and i've talked to people who haven't made up their minds and say it's difficult to pick a candidate in this election, and i got a sense of apathy, too, that none of these candidates are exciting anybody. listen to what trey goodman told me yesterday. >> i've watched almost every debate and it seems like there's been dozens this time around. i guess if i had to vote today, right now, i'd probably vote santorum. but i can't even say that name with confidence. >> reporter: and here's the polls place we're at, we're seeing a trickle of people coming in. don't forget that absentee and early voting very popular in this state, probably more than 50 percent of people voting today have already voted. bill: john, thank you. john roberts out there in arizona. >> thank you john, we'll talk to you later. patti ann: we are awaiting a news conference from the board of education in chardon, ohio on yesterday's deadly school shooting. meanwhile we're learning more about the suspected gunman. seventeen-year-old t.j. lane, some students saying he's an outconfident who keeps mostly to himself. wee also note that lane suffered a violent and troubled home life. but classmates say he never talked about that. >> we smiled at him, he was just like, you know a. nod. a nod to me. like a normal teenager. >> he was just a person that wanted to hide himself, and keep all his emotions, and he was doing what he wanted to do, hiding his emotions, and they built up and built up inside of him and they came out in a way nobody would expect a kid like t.j. to come out as. patti ann: well, dr. chuck williams is a youth psychologist and director of the center for the prevention of school age violence at drexel university. thank you for joining us doctor. >> thanks for having me. patti ann: on december 30th, t.j. wrote this on facebook, he was better than the rest, all those ones he detest, within the castles so vein -- vain, not just stalking you, mocking you, feel smaller beneath my might, die, all of you, and it goes on and on. if you had seen this would you have been concerned? >> well, it depends. i mean, sometimes, we have to understand that it's developmentally appropriate for young people to express their discontent, their rage, their anger in that way and we're not necessarily sure they're going to go back to school the next day and shoot five kids. so you have to be careful about how you respond. however, if i were a teacher, counselor or parent, i may have sat down with t.j. and said hey, what is this about, how are you feeling on the inside, how can i help. patti ann: so t.j. doesn't attend chardon high school where the shooting took place, he's a student at lake academy, a school for at risk kids and apparently he and fellow lake students meet in the morning in the cafeteria at chardon high to catch a bus to their vocational school. do the schools for at risk kids help or is there negative pressure by other kids? >> that's an excellent question. i think part of the issue is the kids deemed as special needs kids placed into the alt ed programs sometimes are escalated, set aside from the students. they feel different, weird, abnormal. that can cause anxiety, some shame, depression. it can lead to bullying. but sometimes, they have to be separated, because they need specialized instruction, more attention, more of a focus, and they just don't do well with most of the students who may not be dealing with those kinds of challenges. but not all of these programs are created equal. what happens sometimes is teachers say you know what, i don't want to deal with this kid, he's dealing with too many challenges, i feel ill equipped to support him or address him so let's push him aside, let's get him out of the school, put him in an alternative education program or alt ed and it's not my program because some of the alt-ed programs are like mini jail, like youth prisons and it makes it worse. patti ann: unfortunately, we have to wrap it up. thank you very much, dr. chuck williams, for joining us. >> thank you. bill: it was a terrifying scene unfolding in syria. there's no end in sight to this violence. you can see the smoke riseing from the city of homs after rocket attacks that killed prodemocracy demonstrators, 144 said to be killed across the country on monday. world affairs correspondent our contributor, dominic di-natale has more from today. >> reporter: units in the armoured division, sending tanks marked with the words fault division amongst us for key positions. today, the death toll, 25 people killed. meanwhile the french say they're working on a new draft resolution in the united nations security council to tackle the violence and help those desperately needed, the emergency aid. a french ministry spokesman saying it wants all council members to put an end to this brutality, revenuing to russia, and what is quite frankly the only entity in the world that has meaningful intervention. we have good news at long last in regard to paul conway, he has been smuggled out of syria, that's good news but no word on the other three western journalists injured. we're hoping there will be news on them. bill: we hope. thank you dominic, dominic di-natale out of beirut, lebanon. patti ann: president obama veeo \dollars/{^ed} -- vetoed a controversial pipeline that would have given thousands of jobs. now a private company is funding that, the ceo of transcanada joins us with his proposal. bill: nasa fighting for a mission to mars after the president slashed plans from his budget. we'll talk to an astronaut about whether or not this is possible now. road trip? ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] help brazil reduce its overall reliance on foreign imports with the launch of the country's largest petrochemical operation. ♪ when emerson takes up the challenge, "it's never been done before" simply bemes consider it solved. emerson. ♪ bill: got some breaking news from the hill, attorney general eric holder telephoning about the bp oil spill and moments ago he was asked whether or not the government is ready for trial and he suggests the government is ready for trial and ready to go against bp. let's listen to what he said moments ago. >> we are prepared to go to trial. we were ready to go to trial. i think this has been reported now, there has an week's delay and we'll see what happens during the course of that week. but we have a strong case. you're right to call it what it is. i think people have forgotten that. this is the base of -- this is the biggest environmental disaster in the history of this nation. a great many people were harmed. people, organizations have to be held accountable, responsible for the lives that were disrupted, the economic harm that was inflicted upon people who were simply innocent. totally innocent. bill: he went further than that, too, suggesting that criminal charges could be brought within month necessary that case. so keep an eye on that, "happening now". >> about 18 minutes before the hour. there's a key witness in the trial of a rutgers university student accused of having a hand in his roomate's death, back on the stand today, that trial involves the death of tyler clemente who killed himself in september 2010 only days after his roomate allegedly used a web cam to spy on his encounter with another man and molly way, former defender, says that while she watched that video she that's no part in recording it. >> as far as you, tyler had no idea of what the two of you saw. >> yes. >> who else did you tell about your experience and what you saw? >> i talked to a few of my friends on the internet. i'd say like maybe three or four other people. bill: clemente's roomate faces 15 criminal charges, including invasion of privacy and bias intimidation. if convicted he could face ten years in jail. >> ♪ >> ♪ patti ann: well, not the moon actually right now. nasa scientists scrambling to reboot a plan to travel to mars, this following president obama's decision in his budget proposal to cut funding for the highly anticipated mission. the move is seen as an about face by the president who in 2010 had this to say: >> by the mid 2030s, i believe we can send humans to orbit, mars and return them safely to earth. and landing on mars will follow. and i expect to be around to see it. patti ann: joining us now is tom jones, former nasa astronaut, fox news contributor and author of "sky walking", an astronaut's memoir. thank you for joining us. >> hi patty. patti ann: as we showed you president obama was once a supporter of a nasa mission, but his new budget would cancel this joint u.s.-european robotic mars mission both in 2016 and 2018. scientists are described as stunned and depressed. what's your reaction? >> oh, i think it's exactly the wrong tack to be taking. nasa has been the leader in mars -- we're the only country that's sent spacecraft to mars and here we're pulling out of exploration and returning samples back here, both to learn about the science of mars and also to prepare the way for the human explorers that the president mentioned patti ann: and in 2018, mars makes its closest pass to earth, in a 15-year cycle, and scientists don't want to miss that window, saying they are apparently scrambling to find a cheaper way to get it done. but they can't go over $700 million, and they couldn't land maybe just orbit the planet. is that worth it? >> patti ann, the scientific community wanted this mars satchel return to be the next big step and if that could not be funded and of course the nasa budget is declining so they're not getting those funds, they opted to recommend missions to other places like one of jupiter's men's, uropo, whether it could be a subsurface ocean that might harbor life, so this backstep or backfilling of the mars mission may be just to satisfy the scientific community that something is still possible at mars but it won't be the next logical step in mars' exphorration. so whether or not they can find the funds in this declining budget is a big open question. patti ann: and the president's budget proposal is not the exact budget that ends up being enacted, so a lot of drama still to go on that. but as you say, this also cancels the mars flight to collect the martian soil and rock and the national academy of sciences called that the number one solar system priority but as you say, now they're talking about moving on to jupiter, nasa wants to visit their moon, uropa, is that a worthwhile project? >> it is. we have suspicions that not only mars might be an area for life but the subsurface ocean of uropa and jupiter could harbor life. what the scientists have to avoid getting into is whose science is better. i think the solution is to go to the congress behind me and grow the entire nasa budget, prioritize our leadership in the space field, and if we have a larger nasa budget, then we have the funds to do not only mars but outer planet exploration. it doesn't do anybody to be infighting about which scientific priority is better. nasa is in a bind, just because their budget is flat or declining and yet the scientific community is want to go hold them to the proms of the past year. matt matto oat patti ann: all right. meanwhile we've got that curiosity of rove -- curiosity rover as there as well. thank you very much for joining us. bill: we have a fox news alert. we are awaiting a news conference from school authorities in chardon, ohio, the site of yesterday's deadly scoot shooting, one child dead, another pronounced brain-dead earlier today. what warnings before he showed up for school? 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[ male announcer ] the citi thankyou card. redeem points for travel on any airline with no blackout dates. patti ann: more than a foot of snow falling on the san diego in the southern california. the storm brought heavy snow, rain and wind on monday with reports of hail and lightning in the higher elevations. the rain mixed with snow to create hail-like pellets. >> it was raining and all of the sudden, i'll like -- it looks like bullets coming at you, and i'm like what? is it snows? -- snowing? >> pat pat the temperatures are 12 degrees cooler than normal. bill: there's a canadian company proposing a shorter oil pipeline. remember, president obama blocking the controversial keystone pipeline from moving forward. but the new project will go from oklahoma, straight through texas, into the gulf of mexico. this time, no presidential approval is needed since it does not cross a u.s. border. russ gerling is president and ceo of transcanada, we're honored to him -- to have him on, the company building the pipeline. welcome to ""america's newsroom"". >> thank you for having me. bill: what did the denial of the keystone project do to the price of gasoline for consumers in america, do you believe? >> i think that the short term impact of the delays in the project have resulted in a bottleneck in moving u.s. supplies and other supplies from pershing, oklahoma to -- from curbing, oklahoma to the gulf coast. that's caused refiners in the gulf coast to have to pay higher prices on the world market for supplies. we had originally hoped to have that section of the pipeline completed here in 2011. so directionally, i would say that the delays have caused gasoline prices to be higher than they would have otherwise been. bill: so now you've gone to plan b and plan b means curbing, oklahoma to the gulf of mexico, which to my estimation is about one quarter of the original proposal. >> that's correct. bill: and, a, do you have approval and b, what will the impact of this new addition be, sir? >> we essentially have completed the environmental assessment, and as part of the overall project review that was completed in august of 2011, this section of the pipeline environmental review was complete. we still require some federal permits, air, water quality permits, state permits, but those are normal course permits that we should be able to obtain in the next couple of months. we have acquired in excess of 99 percent of the right of way, voluntarily he'sment agreements negotiated with land owners, for 100 percent essentially of this route, so the equipment is ordered, the pipe is ordered, it's ready to be put in the ground. so for all intents and purpose, we're ready to go, but for a couple of permits, and we would hope by midyear we would have the permits in hand. bill: sounds like you're 99 percent of the way there, as you just expressed there. here is john boehner, house speaker only moments ago when he was asked about gas prices. he did not mince words. roll this: >> americans understand that we can produce more of our own energy. they don't understand why 35 years since the oil embargo of 1974 that we've never had a national energy policy. but we've got a handful of environmental groups, radical environmental groups, who have stood in the way of having a national energy policy all of these years. and it's just about damn time that we ought to have a national energy policy and do something the american people want us to do. bill: you just want you to react to that, because a lot of people are phiing up their gas tanks in the u.s., we're stopping at your border, and you ran canadian company, but are you confounded by the national energy policy in the u.s. like speaker boehner was there? >> i guess with respect to imports of oil, it makes sense, the u.s. imports 10 million barrels a day from places around the world. obviously, we think canada is probably the best source and most friendly and most reliable source of crude oil but as well, they are growing the production in the u.s. that has to get to market. our pipeline would facilitate movement of canadian oil right through to the refiners in the gulf coast that import oil today, as well as the north korea and montana, there's a growing supply of u.s. domestic crude and it's currently constrained in its movement because there isn't a pipeline to get it out of there, to facilitate that movement. we have a comprehensive strategy that incorporates that efficiency enhancement would be a positive move. bill: let me ask you a question in plain english here. this area in nebraska that's sensitive, do you believe the technology your company has can ensure that that sensitive area, if you were able to build a pipeline through that area of nebraska, would keep the -- keep those areas protected? >> absolutely. this will be the safest pipeline ever built in the ups. the environmental impact that was included in 2006 indicated the route we had wouldn't impose any material threat to the environment, but subsequent to that, through the public comment period, you know, the folks in nebraska wanted us to move that pipeline around certain sensitive areas. we've agreed to that. so we build pipelines in all kinds of different locations. >> bill: understood. >> through the everglades, over the rocky mountains, around volcanos. >> bill: you'll finish out a way. >> there are thousands of miles of this type of pipeline that exist. bill: i apologize for the interruption. we're short on time. russ gerling, thank you for your time, ceo of transcanada. >> patti ann: mechanical failure causing a scary emergency landing. we'll hear from one of the passengers on the flight, as the plane kidded -- skidded across the runway. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. ♪ feel the power my young friend. mmm! 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