every day the type of weapons they are using, their targets. i think that's not the reason. it's more trying to keep the coalition together and that's good. the other hand, you have to lead the coalitions and i hope that's what president biden will be able to do. >> john: the russians deny they targeted civilians, and killed ten people in a bread line in chernihiv, whether it was with a shell or a mortar, and a theater that was once there is no longer there, but let me ask you in terms of defensive weapons. the president said he's going to give drones to ukraine. people think of drones, the big predators or the reapers. these are called switch blades, about that big, and what they are, the same size as a medium size remote controlled aircraft, a flying missile can linger around in the air, costs $6,000, 20 of them for the price of one hell fire missile, carry them in