evidenced from the ranks from 462 as a male to number one as a female. jenner says the ncaa is at fault. >> what i blame here is the rules. the ncaa have rules on testosterone levels that obviously don't work. so obviously it's not working. and so they need to change their rules. >> the conflict over transgender athletes has become a national debate. yesterday south dakota's governor signed a bill into law that bans transgender athletes from competing on girls and women's sports team, k-12 through college. another group of u-penn swimmers released a statement saying they support thomas as their teammate and the letter is not representative of the entire team. sandra. >> sandra: thank you. >> john: wait 'til you hear this, instagram page reported by run by staffers on capitol hill