the meta analysis includes lockdowns had little to no public health effects. imposed enormous economic and social costs where adopted. lockdown policies are ill founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument. you mentioned dr. fauci, he is being highly criticized for a lot of the flip flopping he did during the pandemic. rewind to june 17, 2020. dr. fauci. >> the fact this we shut down when we did and the rest of the world did has saved hundreds of millions of infections and millions of lives. >> sandra: is that proving to just be wrong? >> absolutely it's wrong. it's false, the same way as saying shutting down travel saved millions of lives. basing it on a model that was an erroneous model anyway, republicans have said this, too, but not accurate. no way to prove 900,000 people died but would have been 2 million. no way to prove things like that. we do know now the masks allow