we did, we have a mock jury. we did two different juries, one with him testifying and one without him testifying. it was substantially better when he testified. to a market degree. that sealed it. in wisconsin, if you don't put a client on the stand, you're going to lose. neck. it's at the beginning. when the attorney gave his opening statement and said that kyle chase rosenbaum down, i don't know where that came from to this day. it was ridiculous. that gave me something to really show and argue to a jury that this isn't fair. it's not a game. i think that was huge. michael console and i stress the word cocounsel, he was not a second chair. he was incredible.