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the voter and trump would he back the nominee if not him? grudgingly he says yes. sound like no third party run. what a night it was and what a show we have for you this friday. "varney & company" is about to begin. ♪ >> it's friday morning and we are on 17,000 watch. we're almost there, not quite. we also have 242,000 new jobs reported for last month. a stronger performance, we'll get to the markets and the jobs report in a moment, but first this. >> donald trump has basically mocked everybody with personal attacks and done so with people sitting on the stage today. he's done so about people that are disabled, about every other candidate in the race, does anyone deserve to be attacked that way, it's donald trump. >> he referred to my hands, that they're small and something else must be small, i guarantee there is a he no problem. >> i don't think that people in the america are interested in a bunch of bickering school children, they're not interested in slogan, to make this campaign great. >> talking about issue, i've never tried to get into the kind of scrums we're seeing here on the stage and people say everywhere i go, you seem to be the adult on the stage. >> let me-- >> that's not what you said. >> donald, please, i know it's hard not to interrupt, but try. breathe, breathe, breathe. >> is this the debate you want playing out in the general election? >> there was a lot of that, insults were flying most of the night. donald trump was mostly the target. tammy bruce is here and so is ashley webster, did they put a glove on it, did they damage donald trump? >> i think a little bit. at the same time that cloud of romney was there. i'm feeling depressed today because it was embarrassing last night. i have great admiration for mr. cruz, mr. kasich is, you know, mr. rogers, you know. and mr. trump, i think, seemed to be a little bit nervous, he'd have a very long and hard day and marco rubio was marco rubio, suddenly become a reality tv show. we've got to elevate it beyond that and i don't think that mitt romney helped. i have great admiration for the romneys, i think what he did yesterday was juvenile, did not help and not a solution. stuart: have we had enough? >> yes, i think people said enough is enough. and i think that ted cruz were pretty well. and marco rubio, you were the someone that started insults. very, very juvenile. and john kasich, to the side, yes, mr. rogers should have had a cardigan on instead of a suit jacket. i don't know whether that helps him or not. yes, people say he's the grownup in the room, but it may represent everything that-- >> the world needs someone who is going to kick butt and take names. we don't need someone to be hugging it out. this is why we're looking for different sort of leader to make up for the last seven years. stuart: that's interesting. come in alice from the trump campaign. do you think he put a dent in it. >> it was clear with what we saw with two candidates talking about things that are not of interest to the american people and ted cruz, who is talking about very substantive usuals, case in point, one of the critical comments that he made in detroit, a beautiful, phenomenal city, decimated by left wing policies, economics policies that put this city into a bad situation, what ted cruz took was an opportunity to show what he's going to do to help towns like detroit and others across the country to improve the economy and create jobs and goes with doing away with burdensome government regulations and implementing the flat tax and doing away with obamacare and all the burdensome on americans. stuart: i take your point, alice, that didn't come across last night. it wasn't a substantive debate, even though your guy probably wanted that. what a lot of people are saying this morning is enough, you know, we've seen this so many times before, the entertainment factor, the insult factor is beginning to drag a little. i'm picking that reaction up, are you? >> i don't think the purpose of any of these debates and i don't believe you do, is to entertain. they're to educate the voters and having the best information on the contest between the candidates and ted does in each-- >> the entertainment factor did bring people in. no doubt about it. i'm saying it's run its course, time for something new. >> this is a map of the most searched candidate by state. i don't know whether you can see it or not, alice, but all 50 states, the most searched candidate was donald trump. he's flat-out dominated. your reaction to that? >> well, i'm not surprised, he's the one out there talking about things that are not on topic and maybe a little bit more salacious, i'm not going to go there, but we all know exactly what we're talking about when you say things like that, people will start googling you, but look, the fact of the matter is, these presidential debates to talk about substantive issues, ted cruz was the grownup in the room talking about substantive issues and also received great praise on-line and by journalists when he talked about abolishing the irs and his policies for the flat tax which help to increase jobs. stuart: the challenge from john kasich, he deliberately stayed out of the insult festival. >> this is the way ted has always operated, used these to show contrast and highlight, for example, donald trump's policies, that he has a lifetime of donating to liberal candidates and liberal causes and he has been on both sides of many issues so he has a lot of things to say on the stage because he needs to clarify both sides of each position, also, when it comes to immigration, he has said he's the one that brought this conversation to the table. now we understand there's a tape where he has told a reporter that what he's been saying on immigration is just policy talk and he's going to change his position if he were to be the nominee. that's extremely troubling and that's something he should release, put out there so the american people can understand exactly where he is on immigration. stuart: i guess we'll deal with kasich on another occasion. alice stewart, everyone, thanks for joining us, obviously, the fight continues. alice, thank you. >> thank you. stuart: look at this, please, mitt romney 24 hours after his attack on trump will join neil cavuto, noon eastern. we'll get a sneak preview of what they'll say at 11:30, that's a big interview. and i thought tammy bruce on the last interview. >> she never answered the question. stuart: she might not have heard. >> i immediately started hearing charlie brown's teacher. i adore ted cruz, he's my guy, there's a droning on, there's got to be excitement and understanding of the nature of what he is-- what's happening. he needs to make an adjustment. but this is the time to highlight how you're different. 242,000 new jobs added last month. i'm going to call that a fairly strong number. joining us from the labor chief of staff under george w. bush. you're the guy who always finds something wrong with an employment report under president obama. look, 242,000 new jobs. the real unemployment rate u-6 down. the participation right up. what's wrong with all of this? >> look, i think these are good trend lines, let's take this as a snapshot in time. seeing the u-6, the number of people in the work force is important. pew research released a report this week that was really fascinating in taking a look at those states with the employment to population ratio is still down below the 2007 levels. and of those states, there are 22 states where they are down. those 22 states account for over 237 electoral votes and just 2000 alone is 215 votes. when we're taking a look at the sense upon which people decide their career future, i think there's a sense out there that people are not finding the jobs that are full-time and meaningful and will have to see how next month and the next quarter goes if the trend continues. >> that's interesting, paul. are these states swing states? do they have a lot of electoral college votes? is that what you're saying? >> absolutely. the battle ground states like florida, tennessee and kentucky. to the west, new mexico, arizona, these states have statistically significant lower employment to population ratios than 2007. and that's why i think there's a resonance, both with bernie sanders and donald trump on issues focused on employment. that's why all the the candidates in addition to foreign policy are going to look at meaningful jobs-- >> well said, thank you. the rebound in the stock market is for real? that's an opinion. and within 17-k. 17,000, inside 17 points of the close. if you would have been watching varney, you would have known all of this. look at this, look at this, a solid gain for stocks when we open up business again in a half hour, not a bad way to start the week. let's see if this is the beginning of a solid rebound. dare we say solid rebound? a lot depends on oil talks now going on in tehran, yes? the iranians now have a say in our stock market? whoa. i am a shameless self-promoter, am i not? >> you are indeed, sir, you're very good at it. in this case, well done. >> and the optimism, this is why the stock market is going up. >> you think i move the market? >> you do, clearly. we have it on videotape. >> we'll show the market, and weekdays at 9:00 eastern, that's when we kick the show off. you've got to watch from the get go. >> i'm serious, your stocks, the nature of what happens in the morning. >> flattery works. >> it's true. >> and i'll take it any day of the week. >> got to have money, but-- >> and back to the debate, donald trump, he's taking a hard stand on terror, he's talking about water boarding and he's talking about killing the families of terrorists. ralph peters has some strong opinions on this one. you look at the middle east, they're chopping off heads. everhas a number.olicy but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. for those who've served and the families that have supported them, we offer our best service in return. usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. >> these animals over in the middle east that chop off heads, sitting around talking and seeing that we're having a hard problem with waterboarding, we should go for waterboarder and go tougher. if i say do it, they'll do it. that's what leadership is all about. stuart: that's donald trump last night. if i say do it, they'll do it. he says american generals get out there and kill the relatives of terrorists, they're going to do it. stuart: ralph peters is with us, i want you to hit this head on. would an american general obey that kind of order and what do you think about it? >> no, no, an american general, an american captain, an american sergeant wouldn't obey that kind of order. you know, donald trump knows nothing about our military, nothing about it. he's never served this country in any capacity. you know, as an army officer i took the oath all officers take. our oath isn't to a presidential administration, it's not to a monarch, our oath says we will support and defend the constitution of the united states. we are not obliged to and will not obey illegal orders and donald trump is talking about go i having illegal orders. no now. stuart: i hate to interrupt you, but look-- no, you enjoy it. stuart: during the second world war, we bombed japanese cities and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. curtis lamay, i believe, did it, was he winning-- >> what donald trump is talking about, purposely killing civilups. it could be an effective tactic, but it would demoralize our own militaries and the outcry would cost us our allies. there's a differents, a psychological difference, if a soldier shoots a civilian accidentally, it's a war crime. if a bomb kills hundreds of civilsions, that's an oops. and i'm for much, much more for use of aggressive air party, and that's different from purposely targeting civilians, we obey the geneva convention and the constitution, if trump is president, he'll be president, and not a dictator. stuart: i'm interrupting you again. he's establishing a position, he's talking, he's not going to do that. i've got a minute left i've got to move on to waterboarding. what do you say. >> personally, i have no trouble with waterboarding, but it's foolish to do it, it's about an image. if we start waterboarding and gets out the allies will wet their pants. i should say quietly other measures. most professional interrogators, guys i respect, usually feel that torture is counterproductive. not torture, but waterboarder is counterproductive. you have to be concerned about image and you do have to be concerned about the law. i'm all for killing our enemies, i'm not one for slaughtering the innocent. stuart: ralph peters tells us how he sees it. uninterrupted, mostly. >> stewart, you're selling wolf tickets. that's a military phrase, military. stuart: new evidence of the hillary e-mail scandal. the fbi wants to know if hillary shared passwords with staffers to secret information. that would be a crime. >> i'm the only one that beats hillary clinton, i have not started on hillary yet. >> i beat bill clinton by more than anybody. >> let me tell you something, ted, the last person that hillary clinton wants to face is donald trump. >> we must defeat hillary clinton. the microsoft cloud allows us to access information from anywhere. the microsoft cloud allows us to scale up. microsoft cloud changes our world dramatically. it wasn't too long ago it would take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome. now, we can do a hundred per day. with the microsoft cloud we don't have to build server rooms. we have instant scale. the microsoft cloud is helping us to re-build and re-interpret our business. this cloud helps transform business. this is the microsoft cloud. perfect driving record. >>perfect. no tickets. no accidents... >>that is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. >>yup... now, you would think your insurance company would cut you some slack, right? 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if the answer is yes, we have an indictment for misconduct in office as well as espionage. she should be terrified of the fact that he's been granted immunity. stuart: i think that the democrats are terrified they're going to nominate somebody under criminal indictment. >> that's an issue for them. they're going to continue on that path, they have no other choice. they have a plan b, gore, kerry or biden, mark my words. stuart: biden maybe, gore-- >> gore has come up and having plants in the town halls about climate change and got rid of current tv. divested himself of media, watch. stuart: i can see biden in a pinch. i can't see gore. >> kerry. ashley: by early may, i understand, there are reports we'll have a decision whether there will be criminal charges. stuart: so we've got to wait a while. ashley: two months. stuart: all right, everybody, it's a horse race on the stock market, otherwise known as wall street. dow 17,000 is within sight. we've got some fascinating graphics ready to go if case we hit 17k. stop that ooh. >> you're going to make it happen, i can tell. stuart: these graphics are perfect. and we have the first proof of politics affecting the markets. >> breathe, breathe, breathe. you can do it, you can breathe. i know it's hard. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like grandkids equals free tech support. oh, look at you, so great to see you! none of this works. come on in. then your eyes may see it, differently.ave allergies. only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion. no other nasal allergy spray can say that. complete allergy relief or incomplete. let your eyes decide. flonase changes everything. the only thing the market is waiting for is the potential of this negative interest rate. more stimulus. central bank of china. everybody joined forces to rescue the market decline. i think that it is a very bad spot for us to be. >> scott schaller do. stuart: so right. >> nothing has fundamentally changed. we are just not growing. our levels are horrible. finished 10 years. the only time we had ever done that was the great crash of 1929. we have been averaging this growth. after every financial calamity we have grown. we are just not getting it done. our gdp is just not that enough. the engine is broken. jeff is right. >> i think that scott is absolutely right. really tepid gdp growth. 240,000 jobs. it is the kinds of jobs being created. the productivity is awful. stuart: donald trump is holding a rally. it is in michigan. i just want to let you know. are we going to listen in? no. we are just watching it. i do not know how big the crowd is. that is donald trump. 932 eastern time in michigan. i want to get back to the jobs report. 240,000. i will say that that is a pretty strong number. >> it is a good number. as ashley was saying, we are talking about a lot of service jobs. if you do not have the wage growth, you cannot count that did look at what is happening with the middle class at this point. deteriorating financial condition. 40% of the middle class does not have much retirement savings at all. >> we lost by 16,000 a new factory jobs. they are high-paying. stuart: scott here it your time to chime in. >> i have the burden of common sense. i am a commonsense man. cb unemployment rate go down, how do we print a negative wage inflation number. something is not working. we have to start a policy about looking at inflation. stuart: okay. i think you guys are moving the market. we are now down. three points lower. look at what happened. no idea how much money we spent on these fancy graphics. [laughter] we do not usually showed charts on this program. you must see this one. the dow at session lows when mitt romney was speaking yesterday did session highs when trump responded from portland, maine and, around 1:30 p.m. yesterday afternoon. liz has a sour face. we had a negative service or read yesterday. contraction. shaw was a negative buzzword? >> the show. [laughter] >> nothing to do with it. anybody coming in and say, it yes, politics is beginning to affect the market. 3 i think that the market was negative when we watched mitt romney set himself on fire on tv. the issue on both ends. the party as a whole. donald came out and everything went back to normal. >> he is right for once. [laughter] >> trump is being viewed as the trophies. stuart: he, right now, trump viewed as a throw business candidate. he is the one to negotiate the trade agreement. also, in tack against trump. no matter what trump actually does when he is in office, he is being interpreted. the markets do not like it. individual stocks. that is a companies computer hardware division. that thing is up nearly 10%. planet fitness. higher profits. up $0.08. profit and sales. back to well under $10 a share. people are waiting longer to file their taxes. down nearly 12%. look at american water works. liking this stock. super bear himself. >> high and low. involved with water and wastewater. a nice 2% dividend. stuart: you are killing it. a lot of people go to see movies these days. a smaller rival. that would make him a chinese company. this is a billion-dollar deal, by the way. going to china. is that accurate? >> that is correct. this makes the largest u.s. theater country around the u.s. overseas acquisition. that is why they are doing this. they they're having to grow through acquisition. stuart: i think that it is china's richest man's. thank you very much indeed. president obama. >> stricter gun laws. jumping in quarterly revenue. even the ceo settled on wall street. stuart: cannot run out with it. what is wrong with the gun stopped? >> what if we get a republican president that will run the second amendment. president obama is in tack. >> if we get a republican gung ho for gun rights, smith & wesson comes back. if you start to see that decline, anticipation for a republican president. >> they said, no, i like cars. i do. i do vote a lot of time. >> we will turn that around. tennessee, a great state that i won. [cheering] you know, i won most of them, in all fairness. when i win them, i feel like a warm spot. march 8, tuesday, you have to do me a favor. i am self funding my campaign. you have to get out and vote. i promise, you will be very happy. you will be more than happy with me. michigan more than most. what has happened to you people is disgraceful. michigan more than most. you have to get out. stuart: remember, he is speaking in michigan. cars why not. why not. ashley: he is so good at it. >> i would like to know, but i do not know. that is and enthusiastic crowd here at if you look at a hillary rally, they are not that widely jumping up and down. >> it is always positive. negative on mexicans. negative on china. any comment ever on donald trump in michigan. >> a mass frenzy. it is michigan. >> ted cruz now. >> i do not want your money, but i do want your votes. stuart: sorry, folks. missed it. tennessee. >> i think is mike is open. cruz and rubio going right after donald trump. having to get back. having this rally. they did have to swallow hard and say, yes, we are going to endorse donald trump. >> open fourth or two minutes on the dow industrials. we are actually down 13 points. 16930. that is where we are. the republican candidates vowing to support the nominee. you will hear what they all have two say about that last night. the evidence is mounting. it is a real possibility. more varney after this. ♪ stuart: donald trump speaking in warren michigan. listen for a second, please. >> they have executives at the banks. i say to them, you are getting paid all of this money. i say you should fight the case. you should fight it right to the and. the problem is, when you settle cases, everyone keeps suing you. does that make sense? this case going for four or five years. they have to go through the pain of really going through a case. i do not get sued very often. trump will never settle. two days later they have a lawsuit settled. they put a lot of money in their pockets. trump university. i am going to win that case. it is a civil case. not a big deal. they do not talk about the city that i built on the west side of manhattan. they do not talk about all of the deals we are doing all over the country and all over the world. they do not. the world golf championships. stuart: donald trump on trump university. before he got to that, he was talking about cars. he is, after all, in war and michigan. >> the michigan crowd loving it. >> you can see the politicians do that. >> now, this. the fbi reports, fox reports that the fbi is investigating whether hillary clinton's aides shared her passwords. philip levine is with us now. a hillary supporter. joining us in the past. i would imagine, democrats like yourself are worried. you may be going into this election with a nominee that is under indictment or at least the threat of indictment. that, shortly is an area of concern for you. >> stuart, i am sure that you must have watched the debate last night. >> the democratic party is not with you. this is just one little episode. we know where it is coming from. secretary clinton is trustworthy . >> look at the polling. secretary clinton is way ahead. there is no question about it. it is all about the two americas. the democratic party, she is the party of opportunity. it is not about making america great again. mr. angry. mr. anxious. mr. annoying. >> i think that we came to this interview was some talking points and you got them in. very well. >> your talking points as well. about a fake scandal. >> he is going to the university. i love iowa. by the way do i love new hampshire. i love south carolina. i love nevada. we had the big night, by far. landslide for trump. now on tuesday. over the weekend we're we are going to do really well with the main and lots of other places. >> what happened? we will dip out. where it was going after mitt romney. neil cavuto's guest in the 12th, noon hour this morning. watch out. here comes mitt romney with neil. how is this for a medical headline. taking aspirin regularly. that will be next. ♪ stuart: how about this. new research. taking aspirin could ruin your risk for cancer. what is this all about? yes, it is. >> 132,000 people. they showed an association of up to nine team% decrease in cancers. it has been a week. most of us take an aspirin a day. that is more than enough. >> also. it is an anti-inflammatory. we have known this for a long time. this is the closest we have ever come. it increases the risk of the inflammation. i am sitting there. i say an aspirin a day or shown that died. you have high cholesterol. i am thinking maybe i should. now, the needle has moved. because of this study, i am more likely to give it to. thinking i will decrease your risk of colon cancer, two. i believe that it is a very exciting studies. >> that is the downside of that. it increases the risk that might have to send you to the hospital for a bleed. i may have to read the pluses and minuses. >> a slightly less risk of cancer. always good stuff. >> over the age of 50. you are not there yet. stuart: thank you very much. rubio checked out. here is a headline for you. president obama creating donald trump. we will ask a democrat about that did the second hour of varney and company is two minutes away. ♪ .. >> horrible, not because it is very liberal which it is but it is terrible, third rate. stuart: this is donald trump, looks like a big crowd, very enthusiastic crowd speaking in warren, michigan. >> the new york times is in serious trouble. it will be out of business. here is the story. sort of on the scene. the des moines register asked me about mitt romney and he is a nasty guy like a spoiled brat. i said, they said -- would you mean he is wealthy? i have this word that is worth more than him but they didn't believe me. they came the following day, you don't have a store, this is an exaggeration, you don't have a store -- he is supposed to be worth $150 million. so i said what do you mean? take it. they went and retained three appraisers, they looked at fifth avenue and 56. which i unknown. don't look at the building, which i alone, just look at the store. the store on a corner of fifth avenue and 56th. the call up and said you are right. it was worth between $400 million and $1.4 billion. so they did a story on my store. no one talks about that. they talk about from the university. a don't talk about these great buildings and great jobs we are doing all over the world. i have always been told has a rich person and successful person you cannot run for government, you can't. i do many deals, most of them worked out. some don't work out. that is when you find out if someone is a good dealmaker. the market collapses in the middle of a big project or something happens, that is when you find out how good somebody is. that is when you find out if they have a stomach. you go to those banks a use a bomb bomb bomb and you beat the hell of everybody. i have made deals that should have been disasters into the best deals i ever had because during the bad times when the market collapses, your building a big building and going up 90 stories, on the 45th floor the market collapses, yourself into everything is good and the market collapses, now you are building a building and there is no market and it is a total disaster, not your fault, your timing, i like to pick a good time in but not your fault. then you go in and that is true, you have to beat up the banks and everybody around and many of the deals are at that should have been disasters turned out to be my best deals. that is when you learn about dealmaking, who is a good dealand roker. . so important. let me -- lauren: when he is rebutting ted cruz the nice way. no stuart: he is rebutting ted z the nice way. no insults. just straight forward. i don't know whether he is -- i think he has the crowds. liz: 10,000 show that he is leading in local polls in michigan, being ted cruz and marco rubio in michigan. 59 delegates. stuart: we will bring a little bit in in and out. it just fascinating. mika is with us, and want to go to you, you are a ted cruz fund-raiser. you have been on our program before. you just heard what donald trump had to say. i am going to say that was a pretty good, even-handed rebuttal to what your guy was saying last night. what say you? >> first of all, mitt romney tried to rally the troops as an elder statesman in the party i respect him. i am not sure he was the right person to deliver the message because he represents the elite establishment which a lot of republicans are rebelling against. i think he even galvanize voters to rally a round donald trump. stuart: we are not expecting this from you. i was expecting a full throated support of ted cruz and a vigorous knock on donald trump. when are you coming from this morning? >> ted cruz fired some shots last night once he could get a sentence in during the circus act. i think that he was very effective in going after donald trump especially when he talked about hillary clinton and donald trump's support of her and other democrats. i think as voters get to know ted cruz and the race winnows, the sacrificial lambs might be marco rubio and john kasich. voters will be able to see a sharp contrast between ted cruz and donald trump. ted cruz is the conservative in the race. he has been consistent. i always say he might not be the guy you want to have a drink with but he is the designated driver for america. stuart: where do you stand on the republican split? with the republican party support donald trump if he were the nominee? where do you stand? would you advise republicans to get behind the nominee no matter who he is? >> absolutely. i have said before i will rally behind the nominee and if it is donald trump by want to help him defeat a socialist or a dishonest politician in hillary clinton. that is first of all. secondly i would tell the republican party look, at certain point you may have to say the serenity prayer, lord help me accept things i cannot change and the wisdom to know the difference. stuart: i have 30 seconds left. looks like this might go to a brokered convention in cleveland. that could be a disaster. where do you stand on that? >> i think it will be a disaster because if we have a scramble, we are allowing a hillary clinton machine to mobilize. i am also concerned if we have a dark horse candidate how is he going to cobble together a campaign within three months? i am also worried voters may not trust who the nominee is coming all of a brokered convention. it could be damaging to our party. stuart: thanks very much. i have with me in studio of all places, look at him, and there he is, juan williams. this man is a true star of the left. >> you should tell the democrats on the left. don't you work with partvarney? why do you go there? you know he is going to beat you up. leon we always make agreement at some point. >> the way people see it is you are an icon. you are a standard bearer for the right. stuart: your viewers don't like you. >> when anthony wiener came on your show the viewers didn't like it at all, they were complaining that varney had this pornographic person on his show. the next day i am on the show and get to gets beat up because of anthony weiner? unbelievable. stuart: i want you to talk about the democrats. i would have thought the democrats are pretty worried with all that is going on with hillary and e-mail, possible indictment, giving pagliano infinity. i good thing democrats are worried. we have had democrats on the show, we are not worried about that. >> most people are whistling past the graveyard. you want to be concerned with this is something hillary clinton brought on herself and necessarily but i don't think it will lead to an indictment. that is a republican fantasy. it is a necessary risk, necessary problem, like a balloon heading over your head. stuart: you don't want to go into the election -- >> just don't need it. after last night, democrats are going wall, they got problems over there. stuart: listening to donald trump. >> last night's show from the very beginning with trump and his -- that is not an impressive performance. stuart: maybe. i think the insult festival has done its thing. i no longer find it as entertaining as i did. i find it a little juvenile, time to move on to some real sense of how do we make america prosperous again? substantive debate. i'm sure we agree on this. >> i would love it but i didn't see any evidence of that last night. even when people were legitimately challenging trump to play on the con men seem marco rubio introduced, trumpet university, deals are not real, going back to mitt romney, you are not really that rich, that became a debate about trump's boasting as opposed to policy and substance you are calling for. stuart: i want to dip back into donald trump who is talking about the democrats. >> i said let me ask you is the campaigning? yes. okay, then here is the story. right? and i said hillary is an enablers. she enabled him. get out of here, get out, out, alex. get him out of here. [shouting] >> that is strange. he looks like an elvis impersonator. that is strange. because all the elvis impersonators love donald trump. they love me. that is very sad. that makes me very unhappy. so i said hillary is an enabler and that is the end of it but she crashed. she totally crashed and they gave birdie the credit like he is the mastermind. let me tell you something. birdie never had a chance. birdie is going down and it is over. the only thing that can save him is if something happens to hillary with regard to the e-mails which should happen. stuart: we just dipped in perfectly, didn't we? talking about bill clinton and hillary being and enablers of bill clinton. secondly he is throwing a demonstrator out of the warren, mich. auditorium where he is speaking. juan williams is still here. >> they didn't throw me out. people love bill clinton. bill clinton is looking older. i don't think he has the vitality he once had. if he showed on your show, your audience numbers would grow up. stuart: but he is the guy who allegedly raped while abroad wreck, and and of fair in the white house in the oval office. >> forgotten by you. voters don't even know this happened. and the danger to the fact they are being introduced to again because i think the standards are very different but let me also say for a lot of women, the idea that hillary state by a man is not a bad thing. a lot of people kept their marriages to get your, and to mitigate it sounds desperate. stuart: the very idea that bill clinton would call donald trump a sexist after all that he has done and all that hillary did to enable his coverup and continuation of politics, that does not ring well with the american electorate, does it? >> i don't have that you. the things donald trump says and the relationship he has to women and divorces, that does not play well either. stuart: that is a clever movement to different subject. >> i think you are right but it doesn't have the power of trump right now. stuart: end with that. i think you are right. welcome back. you are a good man. juan williams, what have we got? the dow industrials down nine points, not quite at 17,000 listening to trump, more after this. >> washington post. at ally bank, no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like social media equals anti-social. hey guys, i want you to meet my fiancée, denise. hey. good to meet you dennis. this just got interesting. why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis and a $200 savings card every year, the amount of data your enterprise uses goes up. smart devices are up. cloud is up. analytics is up. seems like everything is up except your budget. introducing comcast business enterprise solutions. with a different kind of network that delivers the bandwidth you need without the high cost. because you can't build the business of tomorrow on the network of yesterday. stuart: donald trump speaking at a rally in warren, michigan. listening briefly and i will bring in a socialist economics professor for his comment. >> that is a lot. to do that, they don't want to talk about that they had to close plenty of things. do you know that? i assume they close a lot in michigan. is that correct? so they close how many plants in michigan to build that one big massive one? a lot? he thinks that these two, a okay. get out of here. get out. alaout! iliad one another protester being thrown out. gerald friedman is with us, he is a socialist professor. i don't know why you are smiling. where is trump so wrong and you, a socialist, are so right when it comes to restoring prosperity to america? >> trump is wrong because he has the wrong diagnosis for how to make the economy move, work better. his plan is to cut the united states off from foreign trade, foreign immigration and he misses the point that we benefit from foreign trade and our country benefits enormously from immigration. take away immigrants, we don't have half the engineers at apple. stuart: that is the immigrants we don't want to. should be allowed to say i want you and don't want you. that is what trump is saying. i am not so short trump is saying i don't want any trade with mexico or china. cheese start the bargaining position, a hard-line position, he does that all the time on all kinds of issues coming in is the tough position. >> do we want to think about his program or what he think would actually happen after he pulls things out of his back pocket? stuart: the position he established, the tone he starts with, he is tough and we haven't had a tough for long time. >> we have had tough where we benefited. our company's, our most progressive companies, disney, microsoft, apple, boeing, benefit enormously from selling outside the united states. we go around ripping up trade agreements and putting up walls and we will lose exports and we will lose many of the workers who do a lot of the work americans don't want to do besides which he is missing the major problem with the american economy which is lack of demand. this is where my socialism might come in. we redistribute the income to put in those suspended. stuart: take off me and give it to somebody else. i have got it, they wanted, take it off me and given to them. >> take it off you, invest it, take it off you, don't know what you meant, take it off high income people, put it into infrastructure, put it into higher education, and give it to working people who will spend it and when they suspended the money goes through our economy creating more employment and in urging more investment and higher productivity would stuart: when you don't trust me to invest the money i make, keep a bit more of it and i will invest it? every time we have done that in the past the economy has expanded very nicely. >> on the contrary. when we cut taxes and deregulate business, deregulated the financial sector, we have had much slower growth, less productivity growth, less employment. indeed earlier period when we had a more equal distribution of income and more investment in public infrastructure. stuart: i think we disagree. i am a guy who came to america with absolutely nothing and in the early 1980s ronald reagan cut taxes across the board, the economy took off and i got my foothold in middle america. tax cuts really worked for me and they worked for america and there is no reason we can't do it again. last word to you. >> when my father came with absolutely nothing he was able to benefit from free tuition at city university in new york, build a business, employ hundreds of people and create wealth in a period of much higher taxes where he benefited from infrastructure investment and benefited from public education. stuart: we both have a smile on our face. that is a big deal i do declare. thank you for joining us. >> we can disagree friendly. stuart: donald trump speaking at the rally in michigan. we will dip in and day out, very interesting. the dow industrial average is zero. that would be neutral at this moment. we are still on 17,000 watch. we have all kinds of good stuff for you. back in a moment. stuart: the supreme court has set a date to hear the case challenging president obama's executive order on immigration. ashley: april 18th, coming the 30 soon. basically they are going to rule on the president's plan to protect millions of illegal immigrants from deportation and give them the ability to work in this country legally. the question is did he overreaches presidential powers? that is what they will rule on by making this law through executive -- stuart: legalize 4 million illegals with an executive order. that is the issue, a girl eighteenth it comes up. the will discuss, here the case then, that doesn't mean they will decide it then. we got to get back to donald trump holdings that rally in michigan. listen in for a second. >> when little marco spews his crap about the size of my hands which are big donald trump has, let's see, what can i say? what can i say it? and looked at him and said marco -- i just want -- look at that. those hands can hit a golf ball 285 yards, right? that was a good, strong -- i have never been criticized about the size of my hands before. what is going on here? so what do i do? for the rest of my life i have a curse that i have little hands, little hands, take that guy. so i said to my people what do i do? do i stand back and take incoming and act presidential. donald trump is a con man. donald trump -- i am standing like that. you know what would happen, how many people i would have in this room? i would have seven. i would have seven. they would be mostly the protesters that were thrown out. we can't take it. that is the problem with our country. our country takes abuse from everybody, we don't do anything about it. when vincent fox gets a degree because we are actually telling him we are going to have a wall, he is going to before it, he can't believe this country is saying this to him. that is why i loved my statement, don't want to repeat it. are you ready? here is what happened. these guys are going to do nothing, you understand that, because they are bought and paid for. you have special lobbyists, marco rubio on the forehead. you need marco rubio's vote you call a certain guy in washington, you need ted cruz's vote who is under the interest of the oil companies, that is the way it is, you need ted cruz's vote, call up so and so, 100% will take care of it, he gets $2 million a you have your vote. that is the way it works. with the, nobody gave me anything, here is what is going to happen. here is what is going to happen. smart people get called and immediately get turned off by lobbyists, special interests and donors so ford will build them and by the way, three days ago i am reading the paper and because there was no pressure put on fort they are doubling down. did you see that? they are going up with ford. the 2.5 figures was two years ago. i have been talking about this for two years and what a better place to speak and michigan about this. i have been talking about this ford plant. i have been talking about carrier and others but the ford plant, we are so big and because it is the car industry, what happened is this. they will not do anything and i think we agree. now let's assume donald trump becomes the president of the united states. [cheers] >> i am going to be so presidential, i will be so presidential that you people will be screaming loosen up, president, loosen up. they will be saying i wish the president would loosen up a little bit. but here is the thing. i have the best business men investors in the world, so what we are doing, we have the greatest business people, so i will have people, but this is too easy. i love doing this stuff. obama likes relaxing and going on vacation. i like working. i like working, i really do, i like it. so i have carl icahn, all of these people, on want to do it myself. i call up the head of ford and i say here is the story. i want you to install your new plant, i hope it goes up on time on budget on schedule, i want it to be a beautiful plant and i hope you produce beautiful cars, trucks and plants and i hope you have wonderful labor relations with all your mexican employees. but you have heard the united states because thousands of people are put out of jobs and you are leading the way into mexico because since you announced many other people have an ounce, since the problem is we have very stupid leaders. we have leaders that are very stupid. now we have a very smart leader. here is the story. here is the story. here is what some of the superconservatives don't like about me. i am a free trader but really smart trader. i am going to tell them sorry, folks, but every car, truck and parts that you make that is shipped into the united states, you are going to pay you will pay a 35% tax any time you ship a car, truck or part into the united states. no way. no way. we are not going to do that. i will not do anything for them. some are good guys, some are real sleeves. these are dishonest players at the highest level. i will just laugh at them and hang up. within 24-48 hours, i will get a call. he will say, mr. trump -- stuart: fascinating stuff. donald trump said, that nice shiny plant in mexico. when you try to bring them back into america, there will be a 35% tariff on all of them. donald trump is speaking in michigan. the michigan primary is four days away. come on in, please. i would never vote for trump no matter what. congressman, you just heard what donald trump is saying. he does not like the idea of jobs, and new factoring jobs going to mexico. are you going to change her mind? >> no, i am not changing my mind. why doesn't he take on the abusive tax code that they already have. we ought to be the capital of the world where foreign investment is coming into the u.s. rather than going to mexico. it does not solve a problem. stuart: the tax plan does include tax cops from other corporations. he has said that. >> he would do much better if he would talk more on that and spend more time on that. that type of conversation would help the nation's economy. going into a protectionist mode will hurt the nation's economy. whatever audience he is in front of, he moves into this populist mode. stuart: may i may i just come back on that a little bit. what donald trump says as he always establishes a hard line on any issue right up front. that line does not hold. he negotiates further into the issue. everything to trump is a negotiation. what is your response to that? >> i would agree. you cannot take him at face value. that shows to a certain degree that there is not a lot of center or core in any of the positions that he holds. he is pro-life today. that is just a negotiation. it is just a negotiation. he made a legal immigration program. then this morning, his campaign was a totally opposite statement. he changes his mind virtually within hours. >> if you are one of those republicans, i will not vote for donald trump. you split the party. a split party, look, you will not win an election with a split party and you are winning it. >> i am aware of that problem, stuart. i get that. i do not believe that donald trump has any plans of winning. if flash to your hillary clinton decided that today i am a republican, forget about all of those things that i said the last 24 years, what do you think americans and republican voters would say to that? that is exactly what donald trump has done. >> opposing donald trump no matter what. you do split the party. >> i believe that if donald trump is the republican nominee, hillary is the president. >> who is your guy? our remaining candidates, i believe that this will be, a foreign-policy race. marco rubio has a foreign-policy necessary to go up and against hillary clinton who is quite frankly a foreign-policy expert. challenging donald trump. it is a war crime, for crying out loud. >> no chance of success. there is not a clear path to getting the number of delegates that he needs. it is not there. secondly, i really dow that that foreign-policy will dominate this election. >> you may or may not be right. whether foreign-policy will or will not. if donald trump is the candidate, it is likely to be the issue of the day. if rubio is the candidate, it might be something else. rubio does not have a clear path to the nomination. nobody actually being a clear winner. it will be very interesting. seeing marco rubio when minnesota last week. some of these close primaries, open primaries in the south. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. look who else is here this morning. also listening to the discussion with a socialist professor. donald trump. also, i think you and i are probably going to disagree. [laughter] >> i am sure that my mom will be thrilled. 35% tariff on cars made in mexico coming into america. that is a trade war. i've got it. watch out. we will build the wall and you will take a backseat. trump establishing a top line. >> the object is should not be to disrupt trade. the trade is bad for us. he does acknowledge the heavy regulatory burden in the u.s. he seems to get that. ford is the preeminent exporter in the automotive industry. we do not benefit from him starting a negotiation that is up with less trade. fewer cars in mexico. >> fairpoint. there is no question about it. except for non-trump candidates. they are not making that case very strongly. we really benefit from free trade did look at what we've got. trump speaking in michigan, of all places. >> a hard case to make. for example, you would not know that from listening to him. looking at the capital expenditures. putting billions into u.s. plans. this is not the problem. the ford employment in the u.s. is going up. not down. we do not benefit from cutting down trade. >> wrapping up his speech. he is basing almost everything on emotion. not intellectual fax. listen to the music. what is that music? ♪ >> introducing the chicago bulls music. i do not know what it is. >> inspiring rustling music. >> illinois. >> back to the supreme of things. stuart: my point is, that guy just wowed the crowd on motion. without notes. without a script. it is very hard for you guys. you intellectuals to oppose him. >> probably overdone. i understand that free trade is tough. that is the part that is working. he talks about stupid leaders in washington. it is very expensive to make innings in the united states. washington has so many burdens. so many costs to that car. i do not know what he is expecting. stuart: that was then inspiring our we just had. thank you very much. >> 30 points away from the dow 17,000. we may get to use that fancy new graphic. >> 17,000. house of cards. back. you can then watch the whole season. is that right? >> 13 episodes. any other form. you are left on the edge to your feed. release the whole series immediately. watching it all tonight. >> new actresses, they are joining the cast this season. >> show business correspondent. there you go. stuart big headline. president obama creating donald trump. we will deal with that in a moment. ♪ >> i am nicole petallides. the dow jones industrial. that is up one quarter of 1%. the nasdaq gaining three. hiring. wages dropped. let's take a look at some of the dow movers here. caterpillar and boeing are gaining state. down over 1%. looking closely at ford f150 pickups. ford is looking back. big lots. staples. increasing their profits. big lots increasing profits and staples to the downside. ♪ >> we are also close. are we not. do not bite anything until i am back on the air. 17,000 in the next 30 seconds. down very close to 17,000. we have the background of a relatively strong report. look. look. >> three points away. what is the ratio? dow 17 k. five microsoft. how long will we hang on this? the graphic which shows 17,000. stuart: of 54. you know, i have a tab dance over a developing situation. all we need is somebody to buy $170,000 of microsoft. >> stretching vigorously. [laughter] we will keep that on the screen. it is on our air. we are on tv. 17,000. i have jessica with me. a favorite democrat did explaining to us all how worried the democrats are about impending indictment from hillary clinton. please do not tell me that you are not worried. >> i am not altogether worried. quite prepared to go into this election. not concerned at all. >> her honesty and trustworthiness. actual chances of her going to jail for something. >> she will not go to jail. a criminal indictment did that is quite a situation. do the oath in a court of law. >> well, we have that to support. less than 30%. we were talking about this before the break. >> we do have lower turnout. >> the "new york times" yesterday. seriously concerned about the low turnout thus far. >> they are not worried about the turnout against donald trump. stuart: donald trump will win the votes of some democrats. >> 20,000 that unenrolled in massachusetts. independents now 42% of the select or it. we are losing more. republicans are also shifting away from being independent. stuart: turnout was down everywhere. turnout was up that record levels everywhere. >> i am not denying that. i am talking about the shift from on ruling. it is happening for both sides. stuart: okay. who do you like? >> oh -- i mean, i guess elizabeth war and, joe biden. stuart: elizabeth warren? >> why not. she has always been a democrat. bernie sanders is her disciple. >> a socialist and the noble office. >> also a democrat socialist. he is not winning any way. >> it was fun. i am afraid we did not go to 17,000. 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[laughter] it is entertaining. his wife had to advise him. what really was the central issue, the flexibility. it is flip-flopping. stuart: now flexible. within one day. wait, wait, wait. we change the position again. >> the dow industrials. that is 2000. both of them have gone up. 2000 on the s&p. 17,000 on the dow. that is a very solid bounce back. both of those indicators were significantly lower than where they are now. to the democrats. the former hillary clinton staffer that set up a private server has been granted immunity. the fbi looking into whether she shared her top-secret password with aids. that would be a crime. your take on this. >> well, you know, it could be more serious. the gop is taking all of the oxygen out from really focusing on this. >> that is true. we sit here and we relate what is going on with the hillary e-mail scandal. that is totally overshadowed in the popular media. >> we have a presidential candidate who is being indicted either fbi. stuart: could be. >> this is the context. the question is, basically on the campaign. was the state department giving contracts? that is public corruption. >> someone granted immunity. massive concerns for the clinton camp. interesting enough to say that they were granted immunity. >> they were talking about the focus of it. >> i have to thank you. a rock and roll day. jampacked. thank you very much, sir. we appreciate it. how they responded when supporting the gop nominee. >> you will support the republican nominee. even if that nominee is donald j trump. >> i will support the republican nominee. >> yes. i gave my word that i would. he ends up the nominee. sometimes he makes it a little bit hard. i will support whoever is the republican nominee for president. >> can you say that you will definitely support the run for president? >> two things from that. number one. they tried not to let the split in the republican party get much further. donald trump seem to say no third tardy run. joining me now is former from the advisor. >> that is right. you are a romney guy. romney yesterday. he was splitting the party. i cannot support donald trump. america should not have him as a president. you are splitting the party. >> well, i think that the four candidates signed a pledge. the problem here is donald trump has put the campaign on a load road to nowhere. i have a 15-year-old son. i do not even want him to watch these debates for fear of what he may hear. i think last night was a good example. a very comprehensive case on why donald should not be the nominee at the party. if donald trump is not the candidate to the republicans, i said that the republicans lose no matter who they put out there. >> no. no. any of the three candidates on the stage not named trump to better. they do far better against hillary clinton and donald trump does. he is the one that is losing all the polls against hillary. >> it is donald trump who brought in the record turnout. prompted that. >> no. i do not think that that is true. it is not just trump. he does not give full credit for this. i do not think, yes, he is bringing in new people. so are the other candidates. very unpopular. very damaged. we cannot afford to give it away. >> fairpoint. we hear you. i am sorry it is so short on the time. david, thank you very much. donald trump doubling down on waterboarding. more on that in a moment. >> i have no trouble on waterboarding. it is foolish to do it. then, that our lives will wet their pants. ♪ every day you read headlines about businesses being hacked and intellectual property being stolen. that is cyber-crime and it affects each and every one of us. microsoft created the digital crimes unit to fight cyber-crime. we use the microsoft cloud to visualize information so we can track down the criminals. when it comes to the cloud, trust and security are paramount. we're building what we learn back into the cloud to make people and organizations safer. >> the rebound is for real. the s&p 500. topping 2000 for the first time. that is a solid rebound. problems with the brakes on the popular f150. it is an investigation by the u.s. government. there is not a recall. pickup trucks. the most popular truck in the united states. a problem of the brakes. some cases. some people pushing on the brakes. there have been four crashes claim to have happened because of the brake issues. >> okay. got it. we cannot stay away from politics for very long. just listen to what donald trump said about waterboarding last night. roll tape. >> these animals over in the middle east. seeing we are having a hard problem. going topher than waterboarding. [applause] >> ima leader. i have always been a leader. i have never had any problems leading people. stuart: look who is here. lieutenant colonel. welcome to the program, serve. good to have you with us. you have been out there. you have been after these guys. would you like to bring waterboarding back? >> i think that we are getting so focused on this discussion. i think that it is almost a nonstarter in the role that it plays. maybe we need to do it. it is not the way that we are going to win this war. it is really about working with locals to get this done. >> okay. do we go to the relatives and children of terrorists. i think what he is really preferring to is a change in the order of, what is the word -- >> cut the deed? stuart: engagement. the rules of engagement. that is what he is talking about. a bunch of relatives near our terrorists. collateral damage is okay. >> that violates every principle war. there is a lot about what donald trump is doing. americans are fired up about it. he stands up for veterans at home. those are all great sayings. looking for a better way to fight this thing. going after terrorist families. just rallying more fighters to the cause. fight smarter. it represents the potential to do that. i am hoping he will listen to the american men and women that are fighting this war. we are ready to see a better way to fight this thing. not just a lot of tough talk. >> you say i am going to kill you all. that puts the fear of god into the enemy. >> well, it you know, if they value life a little differently than we do. they have a doomsday. all that does, rallying thousands of fighters. we have tried that for 15 years. it does not work. it is all about going local. isis is weak because of how they treat people locally. those people will stand up against them. >> former special ops guy. ain't you. we have some breaking news on o.j. simpson. >> fox news. a knife has been found on o.j. simpson's old property. the people became so familiar with that. destroyed back in 1998. a knife has been found in that location. they are expected to release statements soon on what all of that means. >> though police never found the knife used in the murder. they are cautioning that they are testing it. it is in the early stages. on covered by a construction worker. simpson's old home was raised i the new owners. stuart: another trial. we will see. thank you, everybody. a leftist professor on this program. a tax rate is fair. we will have art laffer respond to this. what should be, in your opinion, what should be the top-rated tax? >> higher than it is now. as high as 83%. ♪ you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork. month after month. year after year. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? if you have liberty mutual deductible fund™, you could pay no deductible at all. sign up to immediately 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on this program. >> destroying the economy. you would not get any money from it either. those people in that bracket will spend 83% of their energy. that is exactly what happens. 100% of their time. >> both of them are here. in the last thought before we do apple? >> how it does not work. look at france. a 90% super tax. it just does not work. the money goes elsewhere. art laffer is right. it was actually 70%. when the economy was doing great. it is because of military spending. soviet unions risk and the federal highway says. we will all have to pay higher taxes on it anyway. >> they are standing by. they are. they are waiting for this. there they are. coming up next. ♪ ♪ in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state, the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, and the lowest taxes in decades, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in buffalo, where the largest solar gigafactory in the western hemisphere will soon energize the world. and in syracuse, where imagination is in production. let us help grow your company's tomorrow - today - at business.ny.gov .. stuart: time for the great tax debate. carolyn l. mannan former reagan economic adviser art laffer are here. backed up your statement earlier on this show that the top tax rate should be 83%. repeat it and back it up, thirty-second is. >> from the 1940s to the 1980s we have tax rates above 70% on the very wealthiest of $400,000, that is what we are talking about, the overall tax ready above $400,000 paid for roads, education, social safety net and what we have done since the 80s is cut that rate as a result of art laughter's policies and that squeeze the middle class, and given as the infrastructure crisis in our social safety net has holes all over it. we need to return to a reasonable progressive tax rate at the top. stuart: your response? >> a lot of people agree with caroline on this position but three days ago john osborn in the u.k. front page london times, announced the tax cut from 50% to 45% increase revenue from the top income earners by 80 billion pounds -- 8 billion pounds. that is a huge number. if you look at the 3 chris sent, every time we receive tax credits including the time carolinas talking about, revenues from the top 1% of income earners have declined a share of gdp and we had an economy. the reason is simply ease these people do what warren buffett does, shelter their income and don't pay their taxes or go off shore or leave but you do get the bad economy, always you get it. leslie -- stuart: hold on. need to get some structure, no shouting on top of each other. you said on this program that that kind of top tax really is the best way to end income inequality. mcthis again please. >> can i respond to the claim that it is tied to gdp? there was a study by the congressional research service a few years ago, 65 years the town zero correlation between the marginal tax rate and capital gains tax rate, wealthiest americans and gdp. stuart: i don't want to get in to study versus study, we will get nowhere. >> he didn't cite a study. he just cited reaganomics. stuart: you are using up your time. please make your case the top tax rate of 83% is the best way to reduce income inequality. i will give you your thirty-second is back. >> economists say a that is absolutely the way to do it if we want to address the growing gap between the wealthy and what the area in taxes and the burden on the middle tax and the way to do that is tax the wealthy greek we previously taxed them. it is important that since the es the middle class has shrunk, wages have stagnated even though productivity has gone up. at the same time the wealthiest americans have doubled their income. this is not fair, it is not meritorious, doesn't fit the american dream and we need to get to a more progressive taxation and the way to do it is to tax the 1%. stuart: carolyn said economists say. you are an economist. what do you stay? >> i don't think that is true that out in the quality. the best form of welfare aiken quote jack kennedy, this is gonna high-paying job, though real problem with the quality is economic growth. all the studies i know of that have done it in the academic journal found tax rates are instrumental in economic growth just as you would expect. if you tax people who work can't the people who don't work don't be surprised if you have a lot of people not working and your economy falters and that is what we have had for the last 14 years. it is not republican or democrat, it is economics. stuart: when can we cut tax rates. >> we had prosperity and the board did better and when clinton did it we have a better economy and when reagan did it we had a better economy. it is 3 forward. stuart: this question goes to you first. what do you think what happened to america's economy it the next president of the united states imposed 83% top tax rate. >> we would have a sharp decline in al put, not just growth rates would decline but we would have a sharp decline in output much the way we did when we left the clinton era and coming here. stuart: i have 30 seconds for you to respond to that end we are over. >> i would say art laffer is still peddling voodoo economics 30 years later even though it has been debunked. the best data on this subject indicates indeed it is not correlated with gdp, we can raise it and i would go beyond marginal tax rates, would go into raising capital gains back to their previous level. i would raise the inheritance tax to the previous level. the tricky thing about capitalism is it allows wealthy people to establish political rules that benefit them at the expense of other people, throws merit out the window. 60% of the top 400 inherited wealth. this is not meritorious. stuart: you told us that you come from a wealthy family. is that correct? >> i come from a family that benefits from these tax loopholes, indeed i do. stuart: you should respond to that last sentence, voodoo economics. >> i don't know what to say about voodoo economics. it is an name called me by bush. this is a serious debate, with the you are a rich family or poor families should have to look at the facts either way. i understand a lot of people come like the kennedyes, they didn't like their family and they did want to change it and not help their families and that is meritorious. the facts are you can't tax and economy into prosperity. stuart: this debate is going to carry forward all the way through to the election because this is central to the election. thank you, both of you. it was open and overt and good. now all of this. mitt romney attack donald trump. that was yesterday morning. trump response yesterday afternoon. now mitt romney is talking to neil cavuto. i know you have just done the interview. what did he say? neil: he is answering the -- what he thought he would be getting. no matter what side you are on, he argues his efforts are for the good of the party and things donald trump would take the party down. say what you will, he is galvanizing a lot more attention to the party that has ever been seen before. passion might have been missing four years ago. he says this is all about trying to find someone who is more representative of the republican brand and doesn't go back and forth on things. the issue got down to what happens when we get that convention and no one has the delegates necessary. it got interesting. you don't want donald trump to be the nominee. you said that everyone should support the candidates who are out there, john kasich in ohio, marco rubio in florida, almost wishing for brokered convention. >> i would rather see someone besides donald trump become the nominee out right on their first ballot. if that doesn't happen i would like to see an open convention where there is more give-and-take and someone else besides donald trump is the nominee. neil: lindsay graham is no fan of donald trump, he says a brokered convention would not be fair to the trump and he would leave and have a right to leave. >> if you want to leave that is fine. everyone has a right to do what they want to do, but in the conventions a donald trump had 40% of the delegates and the other guys have 40% each and what does that give us? that is 100%. in a case like that that is 60% that don't want donald trump, totally appropriate. say they get together and form a ticket, that is how politics works, people don't have to be afraid. neil: put marco rubio or ted cruz on it. >> if they go along with it that is their right. i am not going to support donald trump as the candidate. stuart: would you vote for hillary clinton? >> i won't vote for hillary clinton. stuart: mitt romney, 2012 presidential candidate. he sticks to that. i couldn't support the ticket. he would support a conservative, presumably a third-party candidate running, all but dooming chances for a republican to win the white house. he says this is about bigger things and he thinks such a candidate in that environment could win. stuart: fascinating, great interview. hope we can see the rest of it on your show in 20 minutes. thank you, appreciate it. that will be 12:00 noon today, the interview with former governor mitt romney. it says former governor. former presidential candidate. staying on the romney at taskforces donald trump. a headline in the wall street journal today says president obama is the one who created from a. former obama white house senior director is here. welcome to the program. this article by governor bobby jindal says it is president obama who has opened the door for donald trump, the participation rate in the labour force is wishy down and that lets in those people who are outsourced, they are going to vote for donald trump. losing foreign policy and all those people who want to see america with a winning foreign policy and come in to trump. what do you make of this? >> it is grasping at straws to put the pressure on somebody other than the republican party to come up with an explanation why trump has resurged. the trump phenomenon is not unique to the u.s.. you have demagogues are around the world to play to bees instance of any part of the population. they use fear mongering, anti-immigration. stuart: why do you think it is demagoguery and fear mongering when trump establishes a sharp edge opening gambit position? that is what he is doing. that is what he is doing. why is that demagoguery? >> it is a tone and who you are bringing into the party. obama in 2008 was successful because he brought in people who felt disaffected from the process and that helped him win over hillary and also over john mccain. trump is trying to play the same formula, bring in people who don't feel they have been part of the system. stuart: think about it. what about those people who are generally on the lead at the 11 million in legals in our country. if you say anything about it you are a racist. what about those people who are optional add at people who coming to this country and kill us. don't we have a right to be righteously entered about these people and not be called and islamophobia. >> there are people in rio on both sides of the aisle but there are other ways to handle it. mitt romney's remarks yesterday, he did inert when jobs saying we used to mean either party be able to channel that anger into something that resembled bringing people together. policy proposals moving forward. instead with the trump phenomenon is eager for the sake of vagaries end up with a penis jokes that national debate. it is watered down, the policy conversation isn't going to be good generally for the direction of the country if this is the nominee for the grand old party. stuart: weak year you and thank you for articulating your point of view, think you very much. college campuses gripped by political correctness and it is spilling onto main street in several examples next. you focus on making great burgers, or building the 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sensitivity has come to? time to lay down the law of free-speech. if you are so sensitive to mideast sombreros or halloween costumes, leave. you are not ready for college. you are not ready for the adult world. you are not ready for america. if you are a college administrator, a free-speech be protected and encouraged. the first amendment to the constitution, the first item on the bill of rights reads congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech. what is going on in our college campuses today is a retreat from the constitution, free-speech is under attack in the most childish way. isn't this one of the reasons donald trump is popular with so many ordinary freedom loving americans? yes it is. the young american foundation, she is with us this morning. i kind of feel that the political correctness movement has reached a high point and from here on out is in decline. the tequila party, save spaces, you throw your hat down. >> that is completely accurate, the american foundation has in tracking this for decades and we like to say this is the boiling point. you had a great example you covered last week. ben shapiro's speech at california state university is a place where students were protesting the speaker, violently. there were violent protests. it is literally under attack, free-speech is literally under attack on college campuses. we are sick of it. makes sense that people in this country are saying no more, let us say what we want to say and get to the shoes. stuart: trump is a precise example of non pc. free-speech. use of funding a lot of people but he is saying it. would you call yourself a trump support ntt's >> no i'm not a trump supporter but i understand what he is tapping into an icy and across the country. students in these academic institutions whether they are supposed to be addressing serious issues and they can't miss they learned four yearlong advertising for liberalism and sensitivity, four years of sensitivity training. i just 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people in latin america sales we haven't tried hard enough. if we redistribute the most gross rich people it will trickle down to was. stuart: why is it students at the most of these colleges in america, sons and daughters of the rich, why is it they are the ones always on the left? why is that? john: maybe because their parents are. who followed karl marx? the most enthusiastic communists were the in collectibles with something about that epidemic intelligence makes you think you can plan life for others. stuart: just follow me and everything will be fine. john: the students say no, we went liberty. stuart: will lie see someone on your show from overseas pounding the table for real freedom? i want to see it. john: they just talk but they fight back against the donald trump supporter and a girl from occupy wall street. "cavuto coast to coast" when you got the ball on the show tonight. what time will that show where? john: cheese in time. stuart: which network? what is your name again? john: fox business network and my name is stossel and not party. stuart: the trumpets up and down, 17,000. i spend most of the morning saying we want to use fancy new graphics which we bought and paid for and look what we've got. ashley: blew the annual budget. i've looked terrible. the actual event occurred at 11:00 this morning. that is when we crossed 17,000, first time since jan. 6, the indeed to 5,000 above the indeed, the above 2,000, right about the same time. ashley: quite a come back from that low in february. stuart: a solid rebound and the webster ratio. ashley: don't prius me, send money. stuart: neil is here with an interview with mitt romney. neil: the battle is on and mitt romney is doubling down blues some would say he is having a fit. y -- why are you doing this? >> i care about the country and my party and i watched from the sidelines play a role as the umpire and calling some foul balls now and then but i couldn't sit back and say nothing as i watch donald trump be more and more outrageous, as a terrible things about george bush, john mccain, positive things about vladimir putin, mocking reporter, a disabled reporter.

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