that took on enemy fire was false. a lot going on. we will cover it all. "varney and company" is about to begin. oil and gas, first oil coming back after the big drop yesterday. $50.77, it is up over 2 bucks. this number will hit you directly in your wallet. $2.15. this is up $0.09 in two days. ed butowksi is here. the gas dropping party over. >> the dropping party might be over. we are still lower. use a weird analogy the party is still going on a keg of beer are empty because things have changed. there has been the fallacy, all that money will be saved and given to the economy. all the economic indicators prove that is not true. whenever the number is, and other expenses including taxes. tom: you start looking at the personal consumption numbers which are down, retail sales what are people doing with suppose the gas savings? sounds like they're just keeping it in their bank account. >> they could be keeping it in their bank account the realities things cost more money. in 2014 people would be led to believe prices only rose 0.8%. everybody knows the cost of living went up substantially more. it did not go to the economy. when the president stand up and says this money is now in their pockets -- tom: we have turned the page, mission accomplished. >> as we trade in the futures markets you see them overextend on the downside, probably around $60 is where we end up. tom: oil prices are all over the place. we are 5 bucks before where we are, oil right now. the question is does anybody really know? you have the dollars involved, the refinery strike involved, demand involved, there are a lot of moving parts to this oil story. >> a lot has to do with global demand. futures markets trade based on global market and you see flowing in shy and, you see europe not moving anywhere but south so there is a really good -- just as strong an argument that oil goes lower as you do oil going higher and as individual investors need to stay away from other accentuating or overdoing on one side. keep a balanced portfolio because you don't know which factor will play into this. great depression stories are out there and on the flip side you have incredible inflationary pressures so you are not paid to play, you don't know so be careful. tom: always great to see you. we get the big jobs report tomorrow and we will hear a lot of cheerleading if the unemployment rate which is at 5.6% to down again but the head of gallup, check this out, saying we have been saying on this program for years now that the numbers don't tell the real story. the ceo of gallup takes a step further. this is what he said. there is no other way to say this. the official unemployment rate which cruelly unfair rates the suffering of long-term and terminally unemployed as well as depressingly unemployed amounts to a big lie. monica crowley. so good to see you. i you surprised? we have been reporting this here but the general public buys into these numbers. >> the unemployment rate has been publicized for a long time originated under president obama, gained political strength as a statistic for political purposes under this president. every time the official numbers comes down there could be made real -- rejoicing out of the white house they put out a statement where in the economic recovery. the reason they don't feel an economic recovery is the same reason the head of gallup was pointing to which is that numbers of false number. the actual unemployment rate is somewhere between 9% and 11%. if you factor in all the people who want permanent work and can't find it, the long-term unemployed who have given up. in politics as in life, perception is always reality and the perception is for people on the ground living this economy that it still stinks. tom: it does. we talked about this yesterday with mary kissel but it comes down to that is why the november election results are what they were because people have stopped believing these nice political -- don't know what you want to call them. >> government reports come out and who are you going to believe? you or your eyes? the government has lost credibility in terms of presenting these numbers and they are shot through with seasonal adjustments that are adjusted later and so on. the american people are living this every day and they know the numbers not right. tom: it matters economically because these part-time jobs that are not counted differently from full time jobs, we'd need full-time jobs to get enough money into coffers but nobody did into the weeds like we do. the weeds are lower paying jobs people want full-time jobs don't have them. bill hemmer of fox news gave this program credit for talking about this while he interviewed the gallup ceo. >> we view this lot from our colleagues at fox business and stuart varney has been talking about this 3 years. >> those full-time unemployment jobs will never come back until free enterprise and the spirit of entrepreneurship gets back in. >> that is going the wrong way. that is a big challenge. >> this is a big story. gallup is well regarded they are not considered right wing left wing, they are just considered good data. >> it would be nice to get this from the head of gallup six years ago, five years ago. now is a little late the president has been reelected and one thing he has been pointing to our obama policies, epa regulations, wet blanket sitting over the economy and job creation. >> people don't know why but that is what is going on. we have a triple digit rally under way. the dow has finished higher the last three sessions. so far it is four in a row so the dow is up 152, not bad. we were above 18,000, we almost hit 17,000 and we are back 17,825. disappointing profits at green mountain and it lowered its sales outlook. a big winner today after pfizer announced it will buy the drugmaker for $16 billion in cash and shares hitting a record high on 35% jump. now to the fight against isis, jordan's king abdallah a former general, special forces commando when his dad was the king is putting his military fatigues back on and ordering air strikes against isis targets in response to the murder of the kidnapped jordanian pilot. they will take the fight to isis with or without the support of the united states. it is unclear they are going to get any support. listen to this exchange between jos fairness and ed henry. >> seemed to be suggesting the white house was not aware the king was in washington in large part to get more support from the administration and congress for weapons. >> the administration is standing squarely behind the people of jordan and the king and we are supportive of any efforts to strengthen his national security and his ability to make tangible contributions to the broader campaign. tom: let's bring in concerned veterans for america ceo i guess you can't even call that a strongly worded statement. that is about all it is. >> what did josh earnest just say? he said nothing. that is why jordan feels like it has to go with the without america. think about that phrase, with without americans we will take on isis, the greatest radical islamic threat on the planet today. such a galvanizing moment where jordan saw the sheer brutality many of us have seen for years and got an opportunity to build a real coalition. airstrikes are great, they had some impact on isis. what we need are. on the ground from muslim countries in that region his see isis for the threat that it is jordan, egypt, saudi arabia turkey but it will require american leadership to be that coalition including american leadership on the ground and you are not seeing that. tom: that is what a lot of people say. especially people who don't want to get involved. that is their work, they can clean up their garbage they can do it themselves. others are saying if we don't do something this is germany 1940 all over again. we have to do something. >> is islamism like nazis or communism this is what we are facing. is easy to say it is their fight except in that region a look at iraq and isis had to do they blame? the americans to topple saddam greeted the environment, surge and left, now isis has come from iraq to syria to iraq we have to be part of putting those pieces back together but doesn't mean we go alone or do alone. it will require as to cobble together a difficult coalition that currently does not exist. airstrikes will not do it. american leadership is the essential ingredient to a real coalition and this white house refuses to carry that mental which is why you see a country like jordan saying if the americans aren't there we have to do it ourselves. stuart: tom: they got a million refugees in their country but this whole business of showing leadership overbear really feels strongly like the white house is kind of like these unemployment numbers and everything else they say isis is being defeated al qaeda is being defeated yet the map shows isis is continuing to grow and take more cities. >> such a disconnect between the words at the podium and actions on the ground. that is what our enemies see and what our allies see and why our coalition never formed because they heard the right rhetoric but never saw the action and that is why our enemies are emboldened. 8 here in this rhetoric in washington but they don't see any action so they are emboldened to continue whether it is isis or vladimir putin in the ukraine or al qaeda in yemen launching even more aggressive attacks. they are not seeing any change in policy, they are not seeing american leadership and taking advantage of it. tom: thank you very much. here is a look at the rest of the big headlines we are covering with lauren simonetti. >> frantic audio from the cockpit of the plane that came crashing out of the sky and tie one. as the pilot warning mayday, injun flameout in the left engine before the plane banked sharply left, clipping that bridge and crashing into the river below. 32 people dead. 11 missing and amazingly 15 have made it out of live. with the plane's black box found investigators get a better understanding of what exactly happened. the driver of the suv fat was plowed by the metro-north train tuesday night is identified as 49-year-old mother of 3 alan brody. five of the train's passenger's side. they were killed when brody's suv stop on the track and a train traveling 58 miles an hour was unable to stop. service was restored today. meanwhile a cyberattack that the nation's second biggest health insurer and from. the name behind potted the blue cross blue shield plans hackers stealing tens of millions of customers and employees did including social security numbers and in comes. anthem has created a web site with more information about the breach so we have another one. tom: obama supporter warren buffett says we should build the keystone pipeline. is it time for the white house to listen to to ambassador john bolton is next on that. later this hour one of the stars of the popular netflix show orange is the new black on the future of how we watch television. >> gets her kitchen back. >> you listen to me. whatever you think you know you don't. the future of the market is never clear. but at t. rowe price we can help guide your retirement savings. our experience is one reason 100% of our retirement funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so wherever your long-term goals take you we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. >> dow jones industrials, up 148, 14, 17,820 on the numbers. look at shares of microsoft coming up on one year for the ceo and stock is up another 1-2/3%. stocks done well over the past 12 months up 16% and that will make stuart varney very happy because he likes to proudly proclaim he is a shareholder. cme group closing some futures trading pits in new york and chicago. from the cme in chicago what is going on? technology replacing the open outcry? >> it is a sad day when i started here in 1983, every exchange was as crowded as this one, very raucous and a lot going on and as efficient as it seemed it was very eat fish and. unfortunately technology has taken hold and made trading far more efficient and profitable for the exchange too. that is why you are going this way. you can get more done in a short time so that is what we have going on. >> the question is the fact that the human needs to be there when you get something that blows up. >> that is the question i had a discussion with partners of mine. there are times when the exchange or the computer has gone down and could fill up with traders trying to get things done. i am sure they have a contingency plan. it is nice to have his involvement. you have a human happens to be behind the screen. tom: we got the chairman and ceo joining fox business this afternoon at 4:00 eastern john "after the bell". you want to check that out to see what he has to say. warren buffett says it is time to start dragging our feet and built the keystone pipeline. warren buffet. listen to what he said to liz claman yesterday. >> it disturbs a lot of people in nebraska. of farm with water going through, that is always a problem with pipelines. nobody is going -- there is a lot in the backyard problem but by and large keystone should be done. tom: how about that? former investor to the u.n.. ambassador, is this ever going to get done at least in the next two years? >> not in the next two years. this has nothing to do with economic rationality. whether it is jobs for constructing the pipeline, taking advantage of all of north america's energy capabilities building our energy infrastructure allowing more exports of products to the rest of the world's to make the u.s. canada and mexico strategic player in oil markets, this is about the obama white house's hatred for carbon. is what it boils down to. they are not going to change. they are playing domestic politics and it will be interesting with warren buffett as a big supporter of hillary clinton is this an issue where she will finally show daylight with the president? tom: every excuse they could make including wall street journal for the president to task. easing for nbc is trying to convince us that this is canadian oil that has nothing to do with us. >> 40,000 jobs in the united states to build the thing, the oil that comes through the pipeline can go a lot of places but ranking out on the canadians is a pretty cheap shot. we have got combined energy and oil natural gas capacity in north america that is unbelievable and those canadians may be foreign but are on the same team as we are. tom: it fixes global crisis. before you go, king abdallah has been of fighting man. >> he is a real leader unlike the present occupant of our white house. we should do more to support him. i am more pessimistic than a lot of people. i don't think this barbaric killing is going to change the president's mind one bit. tom: king abdallah ha -- >> st. gone for leaders -- hy why are going to give more humanitarian assistance to jordan. slicken ukraine, we are three years behind where we should be in supplying them with military assistance. we will get a little more but this is just creeping along. isis continues to consolidate, control the territory it has and when we decide to do something about them this lackadaisical strategy is going to -- >> ambassador john bolton, good to see you. another major cyber attack, this one, 80 million people, the second largest health insurer in the country. one of our good guy hackers is next. can this kind of hacking be stopped? 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are they going cheap? companies not spending enough on security? >> i think the budget is a big issue, but you know, you just brought up a great point. you just talked about a bunch of technology companies. one of the problems i find with organizations, i break into companies daily is they focus on the tools, and don't focus on what's the overall risk of the organization. you know database encryption is great. having end point protection is great. if i can walk through the front door, if i can get your secretary to click on a link that means absolutely nothing to the security. one of the big problems we run into is we've spent so many years. and i.t. is to blame for this this wasn't an i.t. problem give us a budget and we'll make things work. that's the not case scomboeranymore. this is something everyone has to help fight against. technology will help you. it's the human being. just like in this case you had a system administrator detect his account being used. the technology didn't stop it. the human did. we need to get back to that. tom: speaking of the human how about the customers of the companies? a lot of people have thrown up their hands and said it's another story another one of the hax. i'm safe in numbers, they're not going to do anything to me. >> one of the problems you run into was it actually targeted, not targeted? will someone actually monetize this? if someone wants good news this information of theirs is probably free for the taking and what we call the deep web. so their data may not be sold from the anthem breach but it may already be out there. it does get staggering. this is where a lot of us in the security field are starting to say we need to change the way we're doing things. a number, a social security number, a credit card number may not be the best solution in 2015. tom: seems like there's got to be some major change in the way we identify ourselves in the future, and i'm sure people in your business are working on it. david, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you, you bet. tom: nbc news anchor brian williams in the news admitting that a story he told about the iraq war was false. has he lost his credibility? 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of course not. our arab partners have to fight this because this president is not going to do it so let's support them with money, with materiale and training. tom: they've been begging for us, when the king was here he was begging for material. >> the fact they have to beg is an outrage. let's just deliver on it. tom: i know monica, president obama met with a dozen or so muslim american leaders at the white house last night. they discussed how to stop the islamic state but also about stopping anti-muslim discrimination and due to security reasons, the white house says that they refused to identify who was in this meeting. this is the open transparent administration. >> this is classic leftism, where they're trying to suggest there is anti-muslim discrimination. there is not. that's a strong man right there. a lot of the groups and this is probably why they won't release the names of who attended. a lot of the groups from cair to isna, muslim brotherhood front groups, they are all part of the infiltration tactic done by the groups to get into the united states and the west and look we know the muslim brotherhood was at the state department just last week. we foot the bill for that. that's probably why they don't want to release who attended. tom: folks, monica is telling -- there is much more to the story. google cair and you will find out much more about that c-a-i-r. nbc nightly news anchor brian williams recants story he was on a helicopter that took fire in iraq. >> in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others, after a ground fire incident in the desert during the iraq war invasion, i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. it did not take long to hear from some brave men and women and the air crews who were also in that desert. i want to apologize. i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpg fire. i was instead in a following aircraft. this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran, and by extension our brave military men and women veterans everywhere those who have served while i did not. i hope they know they have my greatest respect and also now my apology. tom: bring in howard kurtz in washington. howard, brian williams repeated the story for years most recently friday night, and the big question always is for especially the anchors in this television business credibility is everything. >> and this created a huge credibility crisis for nbc. brian williams is the face of nbc news. now he made this mistake last friday on the air, and a lot of veterans are saying and a lot of journalists are asking how could you not remember whether or not the helicopter you were in was hit by a rocket propelled grenade and small arms fire. this isn't the first time brian williams embellished the story. he told it accurately in 2003 and deserves credit but with david letterman in 2013 and another with alec baldwin, told the same story about his copter being hit, the same false story for which he apologized. tom: what's with the bravado talk. hillary clinton had to take back a story about being shot at while on a tarmac or someplace on one of the battlefields. >> i don't understand. is this bar talk where you and i are talking i caught a fish this big, and tell a guy it was this big? >> certainly politicians like to embellish when they can. and hillary clinton paid a price for that. this isn't bar talk when you have a major network news anchor telling this story repeatedly on the air. now i can't you know, brian williams in an apology and on facebook said he blamed the fog of memory and misremembered it and i guess people have to decide whether or not that makes sense to them. the fact he told the story repeatedly, there is existing videotape from nbc dateline where he says he was in another copter makes it hard to understand. tom: is his job in jeopardy? >> i can't say that it depends how nbc handles it. it depends on the public reaction. look, the guy has been a fixture at nbc so long it's hard to imagine his job is in jeopardy. is that the end of it? or does he need to explain in further detail why he told what he acknowledges was a false story. tom: all right, howard kurtz. thanks for your analysis. always great analysis thank you so much. meantime question for you, does the obama administration have a backup plan if the supreme court rules against obamacare? the answer no. >> mr. chairman secretary burwell is a charming person and she's obviously intelligent, but these hearings are absolutely no use to us if the witnesses refuse to answer straightforward questions which this witness has repeatedly done. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. . >> reporter: i'm nicole petallides with fox business brief. arrows up again. the s&p 500 up 16. the nasdaq composite up 31. all the major averages with up arrows and the dow up nearly one full percentage point. pfizer, microsoft, visa, united technologies pfizer is in a deal to buy hos pirra to get generic injectable drugs. this is about having one of nelson's team on the board there, but they want nelson himself. l brands are raising outlook foods in the dividend. that's at a new high, up 6.25%. much more "varney & co." coming up on the fox business network. . tom: president obama has plans to furbthe fcc to expand broadband access he wants to classify the internet as a public utility. all rise judge andrew napolitano is here to weigh in on all of this. and judge, what's the fcc doing, and what's your reaction? >> well, the fcc, tom, good morning, it's good to be with you, tom. fcc is expanding its own authority by proclaiming that a law written in 1934 somehow was intended to encompass the regulation of the internet in 2015 basically what it's doing. the concept that government involvement in the regulation of the movement of information and data is somehow neutral, is somehow net neutrality is a euphemism for the books. there is nothing neutral when the government is involved. regulations that the fcc is about to promulgate will someday lead to the fcc being able to control content. just as it controls content for broadcast airwaves on the television programs that we watch in the evening. tom: right, but the thing -- when we first started learning about the internet years ago, it was called the information highway. and so i think of that highway analogy. >> when al gore invented it he called it the super highway. >> i believe that's true. tom: so the highway if you have a big tractor-trailer, you pay more to go down the highway than i do in my automobile. but what the fcc is saying that everybody pays the same to be on the highway. >> that's a very interesting and very reasonable analogy, tom. look, people are willing to pay, large corporations are willing to pay more for faster service. basically or stated a different way, they're willing to use the free market. pay less when you don't need the speed. pay more when you do need the speed. pass the cost onto your customer. but when the government gets involved and mandates one size fits all for everybody and when players in the industry this is the kicker this drives me as a free-market person crazy. when major players in the industry like google and microsoft and apple forever deal with the government with regulators than with the free market, something just is not right. i would trust the free choices of consumers and investors before i would trust the coercion of bureaucrats. >> i did not know that the internet was broken. that's the other part. what are they trying to regulate? >> i'll tell you why this is happening now, because we have an ideologically driven president. a hard-left ideologically president, in the last two years of his presidency with a republican congress that's going to reject everything he sends to them. finding ways to put his fingerprints in the government that do not require congressional approval, and one way is to use his political appointees to the administrator of state. in this case, the fcc. three democrats and two republicans, he appointed the three democrats, they're going to do whatever he asks to do and the congress can't do anything about it without the president's signature or overriding a veto. the only remedy will be the courts and it will take years and billions -- not billions millions to be litigated. tom: i hope it is. judge andrew napolitano great to see you, judge. health and human services secretary sylvia burwell getting grilled on capitol hill yesterday. she would not answer questions about the agency's backup plan if the supreme court shoots down obamacare's insurance subsidies for millions. roll the tape. >> and my question is if the administration loses have you taken steps to advise federal enrollies about the consequences that may apply to them as a result of administration losing that lawsuit? >> right now a mentioned with the chairman, what we're focused on what we believe is our responsibility to implement the law as fully as we can. tom: that was the biggest nonanswer answer i've heard. monica, does she have a backup plan? the court could rule. >> against them. and rule that is unconstitutional. the subsidies. two reasons she answered that way, the administration doesn't have a backup plan and trying to paint the republicans as the bad guys. if the court strikes this down have you 34 states that no longer have subsidies. they're going to say to the republicans, what are you going to do? you have millions cut out of subsidies, how are you going to take care of it. tom: she didn't want to go on record. good point. 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not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. . tom: every first friday of the month, the labor department gives us the unemployment report. this network spends a lot of time covering it. if you're not watching fox business and specifically "varney & co." you're not getting the full story. the mainstream media gives you the top line numbers x number of jobs created, the unemployment rate is y, but lately the numbers appear positive. 252,000 jobs created in december. unemployment rate 5.6%, and that's all you'll get from them including cnbc. happy days are here again. they all talk about the recovery. america getting back to work not so fast because most of those jobs low paying, wages are down, not to mention tens of millions of americans that are either underemployed or given up looking for work. they don't count in the numbers of the other guys like they spew at you. much more to the story. "varney & co." has your back, and now "gallup" has ours, and that's how we begin hour two. . tom: and not only does "gallup" have our back but calling the numbers a big lie. listen to the ceo on america's newsroom this morning. >> at recession, we lost 13 million jobs. only 3 million have come back and you can't see that in that number. the other thing that is misleading, the more people that drop out the better the number gets. tom: dan heninger from the "wall street journal" editorial board is here. this is "gallup," saying the numbers the government gives us is a big lie. that's a pretty well-regarded organization? >> i would say so. the government numbers have been a little slippery. we don't talk too much about the labor participation rate which is still as bad as it has been in a very long time. you know, i think the one number that really tells you the most about the state of the economy and reflects the anxiety people see is the growth rate. in the fourth quarter of 2014 it came in at 2.6%. the economic consensus was 3.2%. they missed it by a lot. if you're a half point off on the growth it's going to slide right through the entire economy. the number that disturbed me in that report was business investment was up 1.9%. that's really weak. that's where your real jobs come from, that's where wage growth comes from. if that's weak jobs are not going to come back. tom: dan you and i have been reporting on this number a long, long time, i tell you, i've talked to the people over the the bureau of labor and statistics and just like the name says, they're a bunch of nerdy numbers guys and gals and thought they would not play political games with this but then it was moved to the census bureau does that and the census bureau at beginning of the obama administration was moved into the white house. is this all a political game? >> well you have to distrust. this is a white house that had the internal revenue service investigating the groups. they have created these suspicions on their own by doing that sort of thing. back to the growth statistics. they revised those several times every year, and what the government agencies are doing with massive amounts of numbers are guesstimates if they are more honest about that, i don't think they would be running into the suspicions that built up around the numbers. tom: the other thing is numbers have changed. a guy, i give him a shoutout, john williams not the music composer. he runs shadowstatistics.com. he still asks the question a household survey question have you been looking for a job if you're unemployed beyond one year? he gets that group. he says that number is more than the total unemployment rate is more than 20%. >> i agree with mr. williams about methodology. that's where you get the true impression of the economy in the households, among people whose sons and daughters are looking for jobs either they are getting poorly paid jobs beneath the level of education they attained. one of the big stories we've covered several years now or still looking for work. that's the source of the economic anxiety that you see reflected in the "gallup poll" that seem to be out of scale with the claims the obama administration is make for its economy. tom: your editorial today about the president's budget and you're saying it makes us more dependent on government? >> i'm calling it the empire of taxation, he's proposing $1.5 trillion in new taxes starting in 2016. the budget he proposed, $3.99 trillion. they didn't want the 4 trillion number sitting in front of it is up a trillion dollars since 2008. that moneys that to come from somewhere, and it's being pulled out of the private economy. he's got to get it from somewhere. the treasury department released a document outlining the obama administration's taxes proposed. 300 pages long tom. this is an administration and a government that is simply built on the idea, you pay taxes, you send it to them, they decide what to do with your tax money, and supposedly we have good government. tom: we are thankful you are watching and reporting on it. we need it. dan, from the "wall street journal," thank you so much. checking the big board, dow holding the triple-digit rally. look at that 156 points. that will bring us to 100 points away from the 18,000 mark again. and oil is coming back in a big way, you know what that means, prices probably going $51.32 for a barrel of oil if you're buying one. gas we're up a nickel that puts it up over a dime over the last two days. new developments on jordanian airstrikes against isis fighters in syria. let's go to rich edson for the latest. >> reporter: couple of days after the disgusting video surfaces of murder of a military pilot. 20 jordanian f-16's have dropped bombs on isis positions in syria. so this video that was designed to dissuade countries from working with the united states and coalition against isis jordan back at it. 20 jordanian f-16's dropping bombs on isis. targets working hand in hand saying that the u.s. military flew supporting aircraft to pave the way for all of this. meanwhile back in washington, d.c. house minority leader nancy pelosi, the top democrat in the house believes the administration should, quote, move quickly to give more capacity to the jordanians. so the video tried to have one effect. jordanians striking back they're back at it against isis. tom. tom: interesting about nancy pelosi. we'll have more on this later in the hour. chris style will join us. meantime, breaking news associated press reporting pope francis will address a joint session of congress on september 24th. that would make him the first pontiff to do so. and switching gears to that measles outbreak. let's take a look at this map. turns out there are 17 states where the vaccination rate for kids is below 90%. let's bring in dr. anthony fauci director of the national institute of infectious diseases. what's going on? why are we going the other direction? i thought everybody was vaccinated we eradicated the disease and now we're going the other direction. >> that's unfortunate and the reason we're seeing the outbreaks is there are certain segments pockets in the country which the vaccination rate gets below a certain level which leads to the possibility of outbreaks. that's the reason we're seeing it now in 2015. in 2014 was a very bad year for measles. we had gotten rid of measles by the year 2000 by a vaccination campaign, and because of certain parents not getting their children vaccinated we're starting to see a resurgence which is unfortunate, because this is an entirely preventable disease because the vaccine is very, very effective, and the disease can be quite serious. tom: as far as the group that's not vaccinated do you or any other organization have they tried to figure out who they are? what the demographics? where they live, et cetera? >> sure, if one looks at the map and looks at the pockets, they are generally you can't make broad generalization all the time for the most part they're relatively affluent people. there are pockets in southern california, orange county. there are also in northern california, around the area of marin county as well as other places along what would be considered a reasonably well-educated affluent group which felt for a variety of reasons which are somewhat complicated they don't want their children vaccinated. others have other reasons. the groups reinforce each other that the risk of the vaccine is outweighing the benefit not only to the child but to the society of the vaccine. and i think that that is just -- all the data that have been accumulated over years clearly indicates the advantages of vaccination, and it's really unfortunate that that's the case, that we don't see very, very high levels of vaccine homogeneously throughout the country. tom: interesting what you said, doctor, this isn't what a lot of people talk about, the uninsured everything else. they're uneducated, poor, not able to access. you're saying no, no no this is the affluent, well-educated people. i know you're infectious disease doctor, but put your psychology hat on. what is getting the people to believe something that you doctors don't? >> it's complicated, it's not just a unidimensional reason why they do that. there are groups for example, early on years ago there were information that was completely false saying that the vaccine, particularly measles and mmr were associated with autism and other very serious adverse events. those information, those data got out and people believed them, and even after the data and the information have been completely discredited as being false and fraudulent there are some people who still hold onto that. the reasons for that. there are people who have deep philosophical reasons, but they're not the only reasons. some people are just not getting the information out and perceive the risk of a vaccine being more than the risk of the disease, that's just unfortunate, because that's not the case. tom: exactly the situation. dr. anthony fauci, thank you so much. good to see you, thanks for coming on. >> good to be with you. tom: you bet. here's the lineup for the rest of the hour, more on the golf caddie lawsuit. they say they should be paid if the pga forces them to wear corporate logos. golf digest will give us the full story. and jordan's king putting on a fighter jet flight suit and vowing major retaliation against isis after the terrorist murder of that jordanian pilot, that update at 12:33. and dartmouth college offering a class this spring hashtag black lives matter. we'll discuss what that class is teaching next. 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there were more people. his name is escaping me. right above her. is she the only one to fall on the floor for what was going on? you're right about losing the trust of the actors and producers. will anything change? tom: the culture of japan, they ran very independently still, they're a japanese company. >> nothing is going to change in hollywood. you think those e-mails, they'll call and won't send an e-mail, they're going to have the off-color inappropriate discussion. >> if anything she came across as a very strong i mean too strong leader when it came to sony. she is not going to be unemployed for long. i believe that. the fight she was having she was calling out some of the biggest stars in hollywood basically saying they were acting like spoiled brats. >> she was standing up to some of the most difficult producers in hollywood. the people who need the relationships, she has them. >> the cybersecurity stocks are rallying on the news of the massive hack attack against health care provider anthem. splunk and fire eye, you name it, go down the list all green arrows today. as many as 80 million americans had personal information stolen in this attack. adam shapiro has more on this one for us. adam, what is anthem doing in this response? >> let's get right to this, first tens of millions of people who had information. social security, birthdays, addresses, anthem is saying no medical information. no prescription drug information, but social security numbers is what it's all about. that's what they sell the stuff for. here's what anthem is doing, all product lines are affected blue cross blue shield. they're notifying current and past anthem employees and members, and they are providing credit monitoring and id protection services free of charge. you'll receive notification individually if you are one of the 37.5 million. it could be as high as 80 million, past and current anthem employees and members who are part of this. this is a quote from mr. swedish, he said in a statement about the hack. we will continue to do everything in our power to make our systems and security processes better and more secure. the question question, a lot of this had to do with storage at an off-site outside storage facility. everyone uses off-site, outside storage. >> banks use vendors. banks use outside vendors. >> you are only as strong as weakest link. >> she is saying she's going stay with sony within the studio. sony releasing a statement, she is going to stay with the production company of sony and not let go. i had a feeling. tom: dartmouth college offering a spring semester course named ten weeks ten professors black lives matter in staten island, new york where two black men were killed by police officers. kayleigh mcenany do you think a course like this is necessary. >> no it's inexcusable for an ivy league institution to endorse a false narrative. to say black lives matter have you believe to the converse, which is police believe black lives don't matter. there is no evidence to that. obama's justice department is about to drop the ferguson charges, it is inexcusable to endorse this narrative. that is what dartmouth is doing. >> what is the course going to be if you're majoring in criminology? is it law students? where are they offering this and why? >> i believe it's in the undergraduate institution, they're going to look back at the historical roots of racism looking back in history, tracing them up to ferguson. so to make that link is suggesting at the outset that there is a link, and i think that's debatable, and i don't think it's debatable. what we saw in ferguson has zero to do with the history of slavery or racism, they are making that link which is perpetuating this narrative. tom: move onto another subject, i love this story. very ironic. a self-proclaimed atheist makes more than $100,000 a year selling a bible app. hey! why not? >> exactly. i agree with you. why not? this is capitalism. he saw an opening in the market and he took it. i can't fault him for that. i would rather as a christian myself rather see the atheist man spreading the word of god than spreading the message of atheism. tom: he thinks -- he doesn't believe the bible, but he says a lot of people do, so he found something that a lot of people buy, this is a fast way for them to do bible studies and everything else. i guess he's able to put his head on the pillow and able to sleep with the fact you sell a product you don't believe in. i thought you have to believe in what you sold. >> he didn't imagine it would have much success, he was astounded it was as successful as it was. said he if he went back, he might not have done it given the success and how rampant it's grown and how much he made off of it. he had a moral dilemma about the situation. tom: maybe he'll get a little faith out of all of this. thanks for coming on. professional golf caddies say they should be paid for wearing the corporate logos? 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[ male announcer ] introducing xfinity my account. available on any device. speed you black breaking news that we brought you minutes ago. head of sony pictures amy pascal is stepping down. cheryl is not going anywhere. but amy is stepping down and she well be staying with the company in some capacity so all kinds of things happening. >> yes come as we were talking the breaking news that we saw she is staying. as i mentioned before she has proven to be a strong financial performer when it came to the studios. she has improved the earnings for sony overall and i'm assuming that they said wait a minute, we need to keep her in the production capacity. so she's going to start a production company at the studio in may of 2015 sony does releasing a statement, her own venture and her own production company under the umbrella of sony pictures. so could this be contractual? welcome it could be. any of these ceos many of them are in a contract and there could be something going on there. tom: it has to be a sweet deal for her to say yes i'm going to do that. so she is winding up with an opportunity that is probably too good to be passing up. so okay, let's talk about golf. what about caddies? they are saying that they are forced to wear bibs with company logos on it. making millions by using them as human billboards. well, they are not seeing a dime of that. i spoke to greg norman, the golf legend, and he says that the caddies deserve a piece of the pie. >> they are not just caddies they are professionals, this is their life, this is what they do. and they are part of a team. tom: here is more on this from golf digest. >> i think that he made some good points, he's a very smart guy. and so i think that he is may be confusing the issue a little bit here. and you know it's sort of the part of the deal here. tom: at the same time if i am wearing a bib with at&t on it do they pay endorsement money to the golfer but not to the caddy the golfer get some of that money to the caddy? >> well, this is a fox business sponsored golf tournament. let's it's happening tomorrow. they will say that it we will give you this. then they take this, that is obviously something that turns into prize money and then caddies get a cut of the money. and so at the end of the season a pga tour player gets $6 million in prize money the caddy gets 10% of the money which is in part endorsement money. >> i thought that the caddies work for the golfer. >> they are independent contractors. that is where i think this becomes interesting. because in some ways they are independent contractors. but the interesting thing is that it might necessarily not be in their best interest. they say they want to argue what to wear on their chest, it makes sense from a legal perspective. they may not be able to command as much. tom: are the caddies going to win? >> i'm not sure, but i think they have a chance. it is one of these things that is filled with unintended consequences. tom: luke from golf ball digest. thank you so much. coming up next preferring convenience stores like 7-eleven over fast casual restaurants. we will ask about it next. >> the plan would be that some percentage of profit goes into a business. and you call me back a second time to bail you out and now you are just delusional at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. tom: checking the big board right now, the dow jones industrial holding onto the triple digit rally. a 149. we are not quite there yet but we could be another rally a way from 18,000 began. oil is on the rebound and well take a look at that $51.46 gas jumping a nickel to $2.15 and the average price for gasoline. listen to what ed told us last hour about gas prices. go ahead and roll that tape. >> i think that the party is still there, because we are still lower. using a weird analogy. but the party is still going on and the kegs of beer are empty. because things have changed and we are going to start seeing the prices move a little bit higher. tom: and they well. pretty quickly. >> that's right we got down to $2.3 per average. a lot of analysts are saying this will be the bottom and it looks like that could be coming to fruition. what this doesn't mean is that we are not going to be getting the benefit of those gas prices in the first half of the year and the economy could use that. but that is where we are. tom: in the meantime, nevermind how the white house trumpets these numbers listen to the ceo in "america's newsroom" this morning. >> we lost 13 million jobs. only 3 million have come back and you can see that when the number comes out, the more jobs that drop out the better the number gets. tom: charlie gasparino, he says it's time to turn the page. >> let's be clear is what he is talking about is the underemployed people that have dropped out of the work force. that is not something that they have are two ways of looking at it. let's not criticize the president for using the most -- the best looking number of unemployment. >> i don't blame him. you get whatever you can. >> you should point out that we do have an economic recovery and to say that we do not could be completely wrong and that would be a lie. >> some people do believe it. >> some people believe in martians. i'm just telling you that we do have an economic recovery. i don't know where he got his economics degree from, but we have an economic recovery. there are problems with this economic recovery mainly the underemployment is huge during this recovery. it is bigger than it was in past recoveries. we should also point out that the types of jobs being created are not very good. and there are two types of jobs being created, very much on the low end, you want to flip hamburgers, work at wal-mart you have those jobs and then you have the high end. if you write code you can get a job and you can call the shots it is the vast middle that created this upper-middle-class where the jobs are lacking in pay is actually stagnant. so if anyone can sit there and say we don't have an economic recovery, they do not understand. tom: it's not like any economic recovery to you and i know. >> it's the worst that we have very the president would say just to be fair and balanced that i was handed this pile of you know what coming out of the financial crisis. a.b. shirov would say or i would say that okay this is your policy. everybody knows that we needed a stimulus coming out of 2000 and eight. but you went out and did a boondoggle of nothing. that really didn't create shovel ready jobs. >> what charlie said. >> i say the same. tom: a new study says that convenience stores account for 11% of beverage stocks in 2014, instead of 6% for fast casual. joining us now john come i keep hearing about how the millennialist won all of this polity of scale and yet it looks like they are going cheap. what do you say? >> they are going cheap, it is a landscape change. when you think about how it has impacted fast food and fast casual, i wonder it if we need a whole new category now. and to millennialist a convenience store is not just a gas station but a food store. so they still think of it as that gas station. so the shift and the millennialist don't have the commitment to legacy brands. take a look at mcdonald's performance and how the numbers are down. that's customer visits for two years straight three rough quarters. take a look at how fast casual has used then compared the fast food. these millennialist rather than spending $10 at fast casual they are going in and spending a couple bucks, getting what they need and then they are on their way. that is the mentality that has changed the landscape. >> a lot of people have become very elitist about this. i wouldn't eat at mcdonald's because of the quality or whatever they have. but from what you are telling me what the statistic is telling us is that they are buying junk food for heaven sakes. why are they so uppity about mcdonald's? >> i think that there is convenience and spontaneous repurchases and they deliver trip to have a meal. when you're looking at that deliver trip fast casual is doing well. shake shack, panera bread, even jack-in-the-box is beating at mcdonald's mythically. for the last three quarters. what has happened is that consumers are reacting to fresh foods particularly better than the burger segments. i think millennialist are making a choice, that quick shopping saves them money saves them time, they go too fast casual antiskid mcdonald's and they have a gourmet all the product. tom: what you think of the campaign that they have rolled out from the super bowl at mcdonald's? >> i think that it has angered as many people as it has made smile. >> you know, i find that people don't want to be told what to do. a bunch of them say no thank you. it seems like a bit of a gimmick. i think of the focus on the quality of products and start to send quality messaging rather than fun messaging, that is going to get them farther. tom: john thank you so much and it's always good to get your input. jordanian king abdallah puts on a fighter jet sudan vows to annihilate isis. should president obama be taking notes? 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>> it would be an enormously costly proposal, basically adding, cradle to greer, people called cradle to career the way it is constituted in the united states, you get free education from kindergarten to 12th grade and the president was saying let's add this for free obviously making this part of everybody's life is a big priority for this president. so i'm not sure it was as much about getting votes and it was almost a riot of having 14 or 15 or 16 years as taxpayer education and something that you think is right. tom: chris stirewalt, thank you so much for joining us. spies and espionage are all the rage. one of the stars joins us after the break. i've been called a control freak... i like to think of myself as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national. i can bypass the counter and go straight to my car. and i don't have to talk to any humans, unless i want to. and i don't. and national lets me choose any car in the aisle. control. it's so, what's the word?... sexy. go national. go like a pro. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. so,as my personal financial psychic, i'm sure you know what this meeting is about. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances. no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. tom: the popularity of shows about politics and espionage have exploded over the last couple of years, one of the most popular is the americans, now in its third season on fox. take a look at this clip. >> you have to believe me. >> shut up. i will do anything i can do for her. [inaudible] >> from a soviet prison? >> i don't know how your system works. tom: one of the stars of the show is right here, he joins us. the show about the kgb, 1980s and you were born in russia. what do you make of this? >> it is an amazing experience to kind of go back. to kind of live through it imagine what it would be like. tom: you have lived all over the world, in australia, you are an international man. >> yes, i have been around. >> does that help you? >> the more you're able to tap into those different backgrounds and the more you travel the more people that you meet. >> obviously the show is incredibly popular. what do you make out of this new show called allegiance on nbc, a complete copy. >> i don't know the show come i haven't watched it. >> it is just launching, it is basically a knock off. >> i don't know, i haven't watched it. tom: i would take it as a complement. >> you know as long as nations fight each other it's not the first and it's not the last. tom: why are we so fascinated by the kgb? >> everyone wants to be a special agent. everyone wants to delve into the dark side. >> now we talk about russia in current political terms as well in this decade and of course the cold war in the 80s. tom: i went to check it out. thank you so much. >> take care. tom: the brooklyn real estate market is taking off and an example of what we are talking about comes up next tom: cheryl casone me, you have a mansion in brooklyn. is it your mansion? >> i only cover the real estate deed, not spending $40 million in brooklyn heights. visit at the sales price goes through a 40 million come in the most dense expensive sale ever for a single-family home, that is the entire brownstone listed by corcoran the other big listing, it has eight apartments in it. does someone go in and spend the 40 million and make it one gigantic mansion or do you keep it as is? which is one large apartment within it. there are families that are together. tom: okay so you could figure out if you could afford it or rent it out. there is some risk and reward for you. we have "risk & reward" coming up. deirdre: millions of names social security numbers and birth dates or stolen. and chairman tom wheeler calling the proposal to think of the internet as a utility, the strongest internet protection ever seen. and sarah jessica parker, reese witherspoon, they are all scammers. the founder of a popular new intersite joining us later. and sony's amy pascal stepping down. after dealing with hacked e-mails and new scri