Francisco. Who is behind the protest behind tech companies. And the cowardly compromise of the budget deal. The house voting on the bill right now. Big spenders in washington plan to restore 63 billion in cuts that are already in place under the dreaded sequester. In the process, they are getting the deal done. Leaders are blasting conservatives are objecting to more Government Spending. With more on that, we have steve moore. He is a fox news contributor. Steve, lets start with you. You had a good phrase on us. You said this is basically surrendering to the spenders in both parties . Yes, i believe it is. This is not the end of the world. But if you believe in limited government and a smaller deficit, this probably isnt going to make things better. In fact, it might make things a little bit worse. Especially over the next couple of years. We are talking about 50 billion more in spending. This was on the democratic side as well. The republican side, we saw a lot of this and one last point. For those who think that republicans just wanted to spend more money, that is not so. A lot of republicans spending money on domestic programs. Dennis okay, let me set you up as you come on with this bipartisan budget proposal. Hoping we can get the overall view of it. Capping the spending at 1 trillion, although that is discretionary. And reducing the deficit by 23 billion. But that is over 10 years. Thats like 2. 3 billion. A 680 billiondollar deficit just this year, and the feds were happy about it. This is go far enough . It goes too far as we are talking about increasing spending, but not far enough when addressing the debt crisis. What is happening is that increasing spending by about 63 billion, and then the spending cuts dont start until 2022. If we ever get there. The biggest spending cuts, price control, we have 700 billion of those in obamacare and theres already problems with those, unsustainable and what we need is a deal that makes a spending problem worse in the immediate term and we might never see those savings that they are promising us. Okay, taking a look at this chart. Total federal spending, 3. 5 trillion, and then Discretionary Spending at 1. 02, more than we were going to spend otherwise. Sequestered cuts are rescinded. And then this deficit reduction, 2. 3 billion a year. It is 0. 3 of this past years deficit. This is kind of embarrassing. I have been doing this for 30 years. And im kind of embarrassed to say that. So every time the Congress Wants to spend money, what they do is exactly what they have done here. They basically say that we will allow more spending than a couple of years. But then we will be really disappointed in our spending. And so this happens, half a decade or more from now. And i would bet you a dime to a dollar, the spending cuts are not going to happen. Dennis what you say . Thats usually how it goes. Theres other stuff in this budget as well. A lot of those messages are just poor examples. Prisoners are now able to collect unemployment information and a budget conference you havent had in four years, do you need that to make that happen . Really . It doesnt address our debt and it actually pushes this down and we still have to address that big problem and there will just be another moment of crisis down the road. Someone likened this to wimpey from the popeye characters. That seems like the entire essence of it. But on the 63 billion of sequester cut and restoring it, you guys cant even stand with the requirements that you put on yourself. Why are both parties wanting to restore a . Are we that damaged by a . It seems to me that gdp is looking good, unemployment is looking pretty good. The big story with the economy in the last couple of years is exactly that. That the economy has grown, even as these horrible sequesters were supposed to suppress the economy. The more Government Spending costs, the better it is for the private economy, but there was no economic rationale for not doing the sequester. And i have a very real fear that this is probably going to be the end of the spending. Every year they will slip and slide and we have Left Congress out of this and they are never going to put their necks back in again. Dennis it turns out the only thing that could make both parties cut spending, because our government should not be spending 680 billion more every year than it takes in. That is just bad. But im wondering, what happens . Do we need for Interest Rates suddenly to soar so that the interest that we have to pay a government that sores that we have no choice but to cut things . If you wait until that happens, you are left left with many choices. So youre making those changes now. What the conference didnt do as we still have the debt limit coming up. The federal government will hit its government and the treasury will start with this extraordinary measure. We dont know how far this will get, but there will be another debate over spending the debt when i comes down. Dennis okay, thank you for your input on that. Thats a good point. Every one percentage point Interest Rate raises the debt over 10 years by a trillion dollars and thats wants everything that weve done in this budget deal. Dennis we have to borrow more to pay interest on the previous borrowing it seems. Okay, you guys are very depressing, but thank you for being with us tonight. Thank you. A lot more to come, including the truth behind those curious numbers on the latest obamacare enrollment stats and as more states start to criminalize electronics, the government cant help but try to ruin it all. Why this is making a complicated buzz kill coming up next. 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A buzz kill for the new market. Joining me now we have the deputy executive director of the drug policy alliance. If i didnt pronounce that right, connect me at some point. First, i happen to read a fantastic story in the new yorker a couple of weeks ago. I was shocked to hear some of the leading experts in the field say that to make legal pot work, we have to crack down even harder on the legal pot smoking. I thought of this idea of decriminalizing oh, i dont know. I think all drug use in the country is 60 marijuana. So why would government need to crack down harder . Well, i think that the jury is way out on that matter and we have not even have the implementation of the laws in colorado and washington. But the very fact that we are even having this conversation certainly reflects the change that has occurred on this issue in the United States over the last decade. Something like a 20 jump in support across the political spectrum in favor of ending marijuana prohibition outright. And that means that the conversation were having in the country today is not should we and decades of marijuana sale prohibition, but when, and as you are raising, how to do it. So the real issue now is that what the voters of colorado and washington were in favor of was not a freeforall, they were in favor of comprehensive and robust regulation, and that is what they are getting a. Dennis for decades and decades, i think we have 17 million regular pot smokers. For decades people have gone out there and they did just fine. But then we have government worrying about checking for fungus and checking for quality and look at this. In denver on january 1. They are going to have all of 12 Stores Selling pot. And meanwhile colorado says, you cant buy with a credit card, you have to use cash. So why so many rules . Why dont they just let the pot smokers continue to buy from the guy they are barred from . Well, what we have here is a system that is put in place at the state level with licensing and regulation that has been put there by the voters who are actually very interested in knowing where will be grown and where it will be sold and where it will be consumed. They have a right to know that under this new system. These concerns exist and its understandable. They are being reflected by the Obama Administration and the department of justice, which is even clearer about this in order to cautiously allow these innovations and experiences to proceed. Dennis you are far inside the circle, but trying to pull you out, do you not see anything kind of silly with the government kind of trudging in here with the extra rules and requirements . One for decades people have been doing just fine without government helping them out when it comes to smoking weed or . I do actually think that if we are going to have statebased licensing of marijuana and creating a legal market, once and for all, an enormous underground economy taken out of the shadows and into the light. But under the rule of law, we actually should be interested in making sure that the System Reduces access to marijuana by young people and that it ensures that marijuana has been tested and that it is safe and that it is not being diverted into states that have legalized it. I think that is actually what the super majorities of americans want and i believe it is reasonable in this transitional moment. Dennis forgiveness for phrase, but it is safe and that is why government is approving of. What is the more important goal of legalizing it . Weasel legalizing it to stop spending money on jails and courts and ridiculous enforcement . Well, you and i may agree that the levels of regulation may be something of an overreach in one state or another. However, this is what this moment is going to look like. This is what the transition out of the extraordinary failure of marijuana prohibition has been like. The fueling of this enormous underground economy, robbing taxpayers billions of dollars of new in new tax revenue, the waste of billions more in what we have to do in one of the things that we can describe about them is that they all have safety features built into them and they are not permanent. They dont walk in all of this forever and the state legislators and the revenue department,. They can change the stuff moving forward. Lets watch this very closely. Because i think we are about to see a wonderful case study of just how bad government is when it comes to business. Pot dealers and smokers have been doing fine on their own screwed decades in government will come in and then suddenly screwed this up. 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The house is that theyre going to pass it in the u. S. Senate will vote on it next week. Onward we go to obamacare. Taking a look at this headline of the wall street journal. In an editorial today, the Obama Administration squashing a report card on obamacare. Including phony numbers on its success. It starts out saying healthcare. Gov has more than 20 million hits in 3. 5 million and then it says that a million americans have gone through the Health Care Exchanges and over 800,000 were deferred to medicare and medicaid, the remaining 354,000 signups were on federal and state exchanges. So how many people actually have enrolled in the . Just 137,000. So lets talk about the implications of that. We have a Foreign Policy adviser and temperature, head of wells fargo insurance. I understand the need to build confidence. Because if you dont get enough people signing up, it can collapse. To what you think of the transparency versus the curious nature of the numbers . The president said we have to trust to verify i think thats where we are today. Not only verify, but we need to clarify in the process. Numbers are right around 365,000 individually the number that was released by the administration was a number higher than that and went on to the websites when people asked for clarification and it was 365 the women to enroll in the process. In a traditional practice you dont have coverage until you and and roll and its required for buying coverage. Dennis lighthouses and even saying how many have paid a. Thats right, and thats what we need. The Insurance Companies are saying about 10 to 20 of people have actually paid their first premium and so if you believe what you hear anecdotally, its a very small percentage. And the number is probably going to be quite low. Some Insurance Companies are making estimates that fewer than 50 are actually going to go on to pay those premiums. You can expect that the number will shrink as time goes on. So we are talking 70,000 people and we have another chart tracking the obamacare signup goal that shows you how far along we are not. The red mark to the left is where we are and then you see where we hope to be a ride march 31. Are we going to make 7 million signups by march the 31st . October 1 was the date on obamacare and healthcare. Gov went live. So we are december 12, that happens to be my daughters 11th birthday and we have 365 people and lets just assume that they went through the process and everyone of them paid. Lets backtrack back and say, we will take this through the end of november. That is 365,000 and we had an uptick that took place in november. 260,000 and thats an uptick of 44 to between 8677 per day. Getting to the 7 million that you need by march the 31st. And so basically 51,000. And whereas we think so far we have got me maybe 7000. Everyday until the end of march. Okay, so what are the implications if we dont make this by march the 31st . Were not going to make that in and people in washington are saying that this might level out around three to 4 million people. And probably fewer than a million other people are people who are previously uninsured and the vast majority of the three to 4 million will get insurance due to these exchanges were previously insured and got kicked off the coverage into the exchanges and i think the broadest implication is because this year has been so unsuccessful, a lot of the commercial carriers are unlikely and then you will see a worse plan than he did in 2014. Dennis so it could get worse not better. Okay. They actually came out of that we are not going to let people who got bumped out of their plans, were not going to let them back on. So what is the status with the Insurance Industry . And how we see this replicated elsewhere . You never know whats going to happen. But what they have come up to today, they are saying that they have not gotten the volume that they thought they were going to get. And as you decipher some of this, the level of participation in the plans has probably been the older population and we need the individuals to come in and help to subsidize the older population to get in there. But my fear and thats is that we lose more and shores as part of the process and keep in mind that we talk about insurance for the next three to four months and carriers have to submit their rates by april of the following year for a january 1 effective date. If the carriers dont get qualified or give credible data, they will be conservative in their premium estimates. Dennis survey said 30 of people are saying that id rather pay the government for not being insured and get involved with obamacare and also an announcement late today, obama asking insurers to be lenient if you havent had a person find out by the deadline. So theres that kind of mess up the insurers business in terms of the actuarial tables and all of that . Can they afford to be lenient . The good news is that there are so few people in the marketplace and probably wont take big losses. And it wouldve been a bigger, you know, they would have been bigger in this way. Only 18 , the exchange was eligible for subsidies and that means most of the people going onto the exchange are paying the full price or not is its quite pricey and it tells you the reason they are paying for this is because they n