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Transcripts For FBC Stossel 20140503

College students cheered. In some places your words can get you killed. Is it okay to tell a man to man up . Or tell a woman that she is bossy . That is our show tonight. Now it is time for john stossel. Obviously the offensive speech story this week was the owner of the los angeles clippers, things like dont show the public pictures of people with you with black people like magic johnson. There was Quick Reaction from the head of the nba. There is absolutely no place for ignorance, and intolerance. I am banning mr. Sterling for life. Within days he is banned by the nba. And yet, its a little confusing. Because what got him into trouble. Things that he thought were private conversations were what do you do regarding race . He said he may not live in my apartment building. The government sued them for housing discrimination, adding that he refused to rent to black people in beverly hills. None of that much made news. This private conversation got him banned from basketball. So what is up with that . So lets ask kmele foster. Cohost of the independents. The nbas an interesting organization to take up as retribution on him for something they said. It is a league that has notoriously had players who have been punched in the face, choked coaches in the arena, threatening to kill them. A sevengame suspension for beating your wife, he was half games for the season for punching a fan in the face. But saying racist things to your girlfriend, not your spouse, in private, in the privacy of your home is the highest crime. In fairness to my think they are free to do whatever they would like. They are a private organization and they have their contractual obligations to the coaches and players are in so as long as its within those parameters, they can fire him. But i think its strange and disconcerting in the way that people are responding to this. We seem to almost be concerned with retribution here and with keeping score on this. And that has something to do with this dysfunctional conversation we have been having in the country for a number of years. We have a dicey history on the subject. But somehow that was under the radar screen. Yes, even the cases that were settled out of court, we dont actually know what happened in that case. But he does seem like a character that may have done some of these things. But the question becomes what is the most egregious thing that you can do. And what do we do with people who say things that we dislike . Do we seek to condemn them or and them entirely or get them out of the public sphere . And i dont know and im not certain about is a good precedent for us to set. There are people who are actively seeking to go after the bosses of the Orlando Magic because they are outspoken conservatives who have given money to groups who oppose gay marriage. Is that what is next machen who else has on popular votes that are not . I dont support the drug war. Am i saying things that are now he is politically unpopular . Everyone on tv. During the nba commissioners press conference, one reporter asked, would you look into the personal views of other nba owners. And the commissioner dodged the question. But does make it does make you wonder if. It is really but does make it does make you wonder if. It is really disconcerting. Iraqi assets in all seriousness and doesnt seem to understand the tone or at least a pretext of that question. Theres something really scary about a world in which they might be dispatched to find out whether or not you are appropriately civil and have a right to work hold a position in this country. The thought police to the word police. Kmele fosters tv show debated a similar topic, who can say the nword. And she said that on tv. It is something that has a lot of contemporary context and i think its something important. The fact that i can say and that it and that all of you are so comfortable saying it. Its not surprising. But there is something that is maybe a little bit distressing about the double standards. So we will turn to the sterling situation quickly. Larry johnson is a guy that played basketball for the Charlotte Hornets for years. He said that we should seek to have our own league band and we should have all teams. So why isnt that absurd . Wise and that something that is upsetting everyone . But racial tribalism should always be viewed exactly at least in the same way. Lets move from racism to homophobia, which would be an accusation against this eeo of mesilla, the company that makes the firefox web browser. Six years ago he made a 1000dollar political contribution to support a measure that defined marriage as between a man and a woman. When liberal gout it, they demal untrendy fire the new ceo and he was forced to resign. Even some liberals then said that that went too far. Andrew sullivan said that he was disgusted by what he calls gayrights fanaticism. And even one of americas most intolerant individuals at this. I think there is a gay mafia. If you correct them, you do get whacked. I really do. So there is this social prancer censorship, is a good . Yes, says austin peterson. But this, says now. Awesome, you first. Why is this good . Its not necessarily that he had that down. But it should show liberals the power of the marketplace. The problem is that so often liberals want to resort to a government solution to stamp out what they call homophobia or injury. And everyone is saying that he was fired, but he was not. He voluntarily resigned because he became a liability to his institution. I think you have the right of Free Association if they choose not to associate with theirs the ill. And he is a liability to the fiscal bottom line. It should show them that you dont need to use that to a enforced holiday. We live in a Civil Society, this is the way we should enforce Civil Society rather than to come in and they. Its less a matter of market and that of mob rule. And these days people are a lot more of in favor of that. And after all, barack obama was in favor and so maybe he ought to resign over this. Without fearing that they are going to lose their jobs and have their careers ended. Mackey was not saying im against it, he was saying that i want to make sure this is something that is supported. Saying that our culture of openness encourages staff and community to share and we didnt move fast enough to engage with the controversy that started, we are sorry, we must do better. He put out these statements saying i can only ask for your support and in the meantime, if they were allowed to of all on this issue, this is one thing that we could feel indifferent about. Saying okay, go find yourself another job. Youre saying that its okay and its wrong if he says something homophobic, but if he does something homophobic so just try to restrict the Political Rights of the minority, then he should be protected for that. And i know you have to draw the line somewhere. If you believe in gay rights, then i think they you have the right to your freespeech. But you dont have the right to a job. He doesnt have the right to be the new ceo of mesilla. So he should not be protected from the consequences. It important to understand that there are consequences in the marketplace can punish this. And i think a lot of people are going to have a sense of backlash. And more and more people believe that. But the response is going to be you apologize for it and say lets be an openminded kind of company and the responses get out of here and theres going to be a clash. Enough with this, why dont you people get back in the closet. What about them being fired or let go by msnbc after he called a photographer in name that was very offensive . Mozilla has a fantastic relationship with google. But msnbc have to worry about their bottom line as well. And this includes the companies protecting their bottom line. If my employees were going out and making homophobic statements and that was affecting my bottom line, i should be able to fire someone. But i should be able to fire someone if i feel like theyre affecting my bottom line. John coming up, more things that make americans say that you may not say this or that. And i will argue that some hate speech is a good thing. Speech is a good thing. Coming you fill up my senses like a sleepy blue ocean you fill up my senses come fill me again could mean less waiting for things like security backups and file downloads youd take that test, right . Well, what are you waiting for . You could literally be done with the test by now. Now you could have done it twice. This is awkward. Check your speed. See how fast your internet can be. Switch now and add voice and tv for 34. 90. Comcast business built for business. John someone clued antijesus banner over canada. They were possibly going to be charged with hate speech. But most understand that the person who did this have the right to do it. Americans get their free speech includes religion. However, if the comments are about islam, theres much more fearing and censorship. This gentleman has experience experienced some of that, hes been critical of what hes called islamists in the United States. What do you mean by islamist . Two i mean basically like our Founding Fathers thought. Muslims believe that islam should be part of the state law in the 56 countries of the organization of the this, labeling them in this way just because we want to have diversity in because we disagree with them and we get called bigots. Ive gotten Death Threats from al qaeda and syria and the local organization nationally, they are basically nonviolent but they tried to do this name thing, which is Olea Sentelle is to be to be quiet and go to the back of the mosque. Even though my family has built over four mosques in the u. S. And i love my fate, i get labeled as a bigot. You have written about this in your book, the battle for the soul of islam. But let me push back a little bit. You narrated a documentary that the new York City Police officers showed their officers. Its an entire movement and the idea is hatred for this way of life. We all know about terrorism, this is the war they dont know about. The accusation is that almost was hit or way of life enact. Absolutely not. We are saying that islam is paid or way of life. But many of them say america is antiislam and they have escaped to come here to be free and we need to have this debate within the house of islam. But they dont let us have that debate. They expect that inside the country by making muslims like me shut up. And they want to do it from back diving. Its not just the money, its the fear of death that takes this gentleman working for an it. She had the gall to ask for a mohammed day on her facebook page. You may have noticed that she is not in the paper this week are and there is no more molly. But she is alive and well, thankfully, but on the insistence of security and she is going goes. Moving and changing her name. And so is this just accepted . We cannot cower down. We cannot allow this that is going to spread across this awakening if we dont help those take sides. And we dont want to offend the islamist because they will kill us. Thank you. Coming up, is the word fiesta offensive to you . Walkout, some americans are walkout, some americans are offended by you may say im a dreamer but im not the only one i hope someday youll join us and the world will be as one imagine no possessions i wonder if you can no need for greed or hunger a brotherhood of man imagine all the people sharing all the world you you may say im a dreamer but im not the only one i hope someday youll join us and the world will live as one of all the places in america. The university is supposed to be the hotbed of discussion. Test your ideas, listen to see whose argument is best. And we learn from that open debate. But now students at many campuses are talking about some words and ideas that are just beyond who do not deserve to be heard. Also now students are told do not even use phrases like thats so gay or man up. It is supposed to be offensive to gays women. So speech codes meant to protect people give the power of censorship to whomever is most easily and quickly offended, and that gives everyone this perverse incentive to become more sensitive. Some people will get offended quickly. Catherine writes about this. She is a reporter for website campus reform. Students are terrified. It its not just the typical things that you think all, that is offensive. Are supposed to say men, women, and people that dont conform. Instead of saying, hey, guys, lets could compete. Youre supposed to say hey, men and women. Some are very serious. And it its not actually saying that you are all guys read. Are planning a fiesta at dartmouth. One student said this was not giving the representation of it. And lets raise money for a heart patient. Yes, it was a charity. And its something that you put on this and they said to replace that with carbon of learning disabilities and say person with a Mental Health condition. But they are not interchangeable. They have this campaign. I want to tell these kids come youre not actually saying this to be more like a man, its an idiom. They need this awareness campaign. Were going to have people saying that i heard that test is as easy as pie. Shes a baker, youre dismissing her work. Those are just campaigns. That summer kicked off campus or saying the wrong thing. Exactly. You cannot criticize. And its totally destroying the so you can learn. We picked the worst examples. But everyone is saying that there is this huge focus because we need to be careful. A journalism students and was kicked off campus for asking hockey coaches about his schools coach. He said what you say doesnt have to be positive, that is fine. He was ordered to vacate his doorman accused of harassment and threats and destination against the coach. Yes, he was going to have it understand it was impossible. I think that will be happening all over the place. If you cant say this or man off, im terrified that i might as that something without even knowing it. Again, he wasnt actually saying this. We are going to have to go through all of the idioms and totally destroy them and make them twice as long just to make sure that not even one person is offended her in. Thank you, catherine. Keep watching out for this. Coming up, someone who likes to [ male announcer ] legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses. If you have a buness idea, we have a personalized legal solution thats right for you. With easy stepbystep guidance, were here to help you turn your dream into a reali. Start your Business Today with legalzoom. Our veterans need you. There are more than 8 million enrollees in health care at the department of veterans affairs. Thats more than 2 percent of the entire us population. This includes veterans from previous generations and veterans from todays wars. 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But most timidly say africanamerican, they are afraid they may offend if they dont. But this gentleman says he likes offending people. When you say this makes steam come out of peoples ears, saying that is kind of crazy. I dont see anything fun about what donald sterling. For the record he said i dont care if you sleep with him, just dont advertise it. Thats like a broadway mobile thing i dont care if you sleep with the dancers, dont publicize it. And so he is doing something, and hes being a jerk are going to try to censor that you do more harm than good. And the biggest problem is that john it makes me look bad if my girlfriend is seen with those people . Yes. And that is the dilemma that you put yourself in when you create a censorship or its im playing devils advocate thing maybe he meant it looks like you are with my basketball player. I dont know, the beauty of the is it we dont have to get into these semantics. Polity in admits to having used this word. Announcing that they would not renew her contract. And that is her prerogative in this enterprise. A lot of this occurs because it looks like there standing in the solidarity of these statements. We create this whole black cloud of stigma one we live in a culture like this. But the way people that talk, it has become a different universe from the Public Discourse and thats not a good thing. You ought to have some freedom privately going on t on. Why dont they talk this way . And coulter, she didnt own a tv. So she didnt know that there was a definite language. Its almost like academia. They have another third at language and and just talked in public the way she talked in private and i think the majority of it. Rush limbaugh said that cinderblock was a [bleep]. You never called her that, but he implied that there was a possibility of this. But because of the crowd of stigma. They had to do that and it has nothing to do with reality. So you have written that asians are so good with computers, if you make them mad come you better be prepared for a tsunami of retaliation. So if you say anything controversial regarding asians, you should buy more ram for your computer because it might explode. This is a stereotype, but its based on some truth. Human Rights Commission said anything can be hate speech that hurt someone even of its true. Jefferson said that there is no truth existing which i fear, and my family left those two countries because of that kind of stigma. We moved here for freedom and now america is following this stupid trend of censorship. The owner of the washington redskins, with the indians victims group, they found a

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