The kids. Are you going to give you know, i am not a fan. I like the old quarter pounder with cheese. If it aint broke dont fix it. Cheryl this was fun. Im Cheryl Casone in for neil cavuto. He will be back tomorrow night. Have a great one. John this week watching the inauguration i wondered, did we elected king . Americas first inauguration. John adams suggested George Washington be called his most benign. Fortunately congress insisted on a more modest title. People cheering the president. Acting like he would make everything better. Climate change. What do you think the next four years will be like . I think its going to get better. John what will president obama do about immigration . And discernible. John marijuana. I expect the federal government to come in. John that is our show tonight. And now john stossel. John to was that guy . Anyway, this monday our Nations Capital looked like a marquee when a new king is ground. Thousands of plot, a cheer. Many act like subjects worshiping nobility. Economic troubles, why all the pomp . Watching, i wondered, should our capital be called imperial washington . Maybe ago to far. Senator John Barrasso attended the inauguration joining us from washington. My imperial washington seems to be a minority opinion. In my being unfair . I have been to every inauguration since i was in my dad took me to John Kennedys inauguration this inauguration, i tell you, i am less concerned about what happens one day than i am concerned about what this president plans to do for the next four years as an imperial president with rules and regulations and red tape and the czars, the recess appointments rather than actually realizing this is one of three branches of government. At think he believes he is the king. John you talk about your father bringing you to these inaugurations which is sort of unusual. John you talk about your father bringing you to these inaugurations. You are a real job, you were a doctor. Now that you are in the senate, is there an imperial attitude of fix it all . I think the imperial attitude is coming out of the obama white house, and you just saw this it is related to guns and issues there and we are going to continue to see this president overreach and do things that he wasnt able to do this idea of executive orders that seem extraordinary. He said he spoke of the lava lamp. And this is a president that i think has gone way beyond that. The number of regulations have come out what are called significant regulations, which have an impact of over 100 million. Those are the things hurting our economy making it harder for hardworking taxpayers. John to be paired up president obamas taxpayers, president obama is not the first to do this. If you go back to the founding fathers, if men were angels, we would need lots. About is why we have a checks and balances system of government and the president doesnt believe that that applies to him even when i go back to our first president , George Washington said Political Parties are likely in the course of time to become potent engines in which cunning and ambitious and principled unprincipled men assert from themselves the reins of government for unjust dominion. Do you see that in washington . I want to improve the quality of life of the american people. What you have now seen with that, and we have seen what the president s campaign team, they have moved back to a nonprofit and they are going to take money from unions and corporations. They will not say that they will report how much they get each of those corporations and they say that they would use it for political purposes. Not to deal with jobs and the economy, which are the interests of the american people, but they are going to focus on guns and immigration and Climate Change, of all things, that is what theyre going to do. John they said that we dont need no stinking congress on the Weekly Standard cover . That tells the way that this imperial presidency is going to be run. The president s disdain for congress doesnt justify the republican party. I talked to colleagues in the senate who are democrats. Chairmen chairman of committees who have not heard from the president for extended periods of time. The president is seeming to divorce himself from the entire institution. John why not, i have disdain for congress, a lot of them are selfinterested buffoons. The constitution was set up in a way where there are checks and balances. It is the opportunity of individual citizens to have their voices heard by their local elected representatives. The president should be be paying attention to that convenience rather than thinking its his way or the highway and he knows that. He is saying that i am the government and im here to help you. John senator barrasso, thank you for joining us tonight and thank you for attending the in nongirl celebration so i dont have to. Kennedy, i think you as well. It was cold and crowded and boring it is an entire group of people and they can appropriately be called obama zombies. But they went looking for brains. They were looking for a hero to worship. I feel good that we have reelected obama. We left chicago, there hasnt been in the snow and this is important. When you think the next four years are going to be like . I think its going to get better for sure. It will get better . Also . More jobs. I think so. What will drive the economy . I think hes going to one further time. He think he would if he could . That the only thing thats going to hold him back. He can change that. We say that we are from stossel and then they walk away and say what does that err on . And they say oh, fox. Then they walk away. John inaugural speeches have traditionally been more ceremonial. This one was overly political. We have absolutists who resist and the crowd like that. Now that he has the mandate, having been elected for the second term, he has the latitude to be able to make some of those bolder moves. He has shown his true colors. John thats frightening, his true colors. He is going to use this newfound freedom and if i have played a drinking game every time somebody uses the word mandate, i wouldve had alcohol poisoning by noon. His true colors are going to allow him to use his freedom to squash our personal freedom. Just wait and see. John you interview people who repeated talking points . Yes, as though they are the Democratic Party had issued everyone the same statements and lines about Climate Change and the mandates and Health Health care. I didnt see any of the pamphlets. But it was incredible. No one was able to think their own thoughts or ill kick you articulate their own words. John where will the money come from . The crowds didnt see a problem with that. He is a big spending president , how does he curtail spending . I would like to differ with that. Bush spent a lot of money and never did anything. Have you looked at the numbers . I would like to differ with you on that. You can like to differ, but its not true. It is true if you look at how much president bush spent, its more than what obama spent. I think we can do it if we stop spending a lot of money on wars. Taxing people that have a lot of money is not unfair. We dont need people to be as rich as they really are. John for the record, bush did spend an astounding 3 trillion per year, but obama spent 3. 8 trillion per year so far, and that is adjusted for inflation. So obama spent 25 more. But they dont believe that. They think its all bushs fault. Its a special kind of koolaid, it is half worship ms. With dilution mixed with dilution. Look at the threats that are happening in this country . John i hope we would learn from what happened in greece. But as of this week, no longer do because the reaction of people in greece is not to say we messed up, we spend too much, it is to be angry about the politicians who want to cut back. And how do they take it out, they bombed the homes of tv commentators who support this. So that is a model for us . Unfortunately that is the road we are headed down. I live in california and we see it coming faster. We shouldnt be that close to greece being on the opposite coast, but we are. John another model for failure. He said i was a model and i take that as a compliment. I studied in greece and i love greece and i understand the greek people. I will go there and show the problems and come up with potential solutions and we can solve everything together. John okay, we will have to talk about that. 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That is how we got obamacare, a federal education department, and they drug war. The voters they do something. Thats why i wrote my book, no, they cant. As we begin, what can we do it we disagree with president obamas Big Government vision . Mark meckler and Starlee Rhoades has some ideas. They have the citizens for selfgovernance. Starlee rhoades is president of the goldwater institute. Both say we can return power to the states. What do you mean . Start with obamacare. State should establish Health Insurance exchanges. Twentyfive states said go right ahead, the policy on your own. You will have to implement it on your own watch. It protects and stops massive subsidies from being paid out from Insurance Companies and it protects people from being told on by the irs. John the exchange is a place where you go on the web and it helps you buy an insurance policy. He insurance does that at no cost to the taxpayer. I dont know why it has to be such a big deal or cost so much. That is what the federal government will do, and extinction each day. But the thing that is great about that policy change is having the federal government do it versus the state is that taxpayers are actually going to be protected from the very worst parts of the federal health care law. So we think that it is a great ideal. John they cant find you if you dont join up. Thats right, when it was written, congress would not give the federal Government Authority to assess the penalties on businesses for noncompliance. It also did not give the federal Government Authority to subsidize private Insurance Companies. So without subsidies to Insurance Companies and businesses who refuse to comply with the law, where whereas the law . It is nowhere . John your group wants to go farther . It is an agreement between two or more states and we have seven states that are now passing it the legislators voted for it and have signed it into law and i will be presented to congress. If approved by congress, it gives total authority for health care in her state, including making the money come back to the state. This is the way for states to say we can do a better job and we are closer to the people. We think that is a good approach across the board they can have a singlepayer system or like the state of texas might do, have a free open system. John lets move onto other topics for the federal government has taken over. The department of education. It is historically a total weight. No improvement in test scores, federally mandated standards that are doing nothing for our children. John they are spending 100 billion per year. Thats right, no company could do that. We as americans have allow that to continue too long. It should be up to the parents. They are the stakeholders. John the states havent done a great job. Some states are doing a really good job. One thing we are seeing across the country is the federal government is asking states to homogenized education and they want every school to teach the exact same thing doing it the same way in places like arizona. We are seeing the state well in an opposite direction where parents are being given the freedom to a new program of education savings accounts to handpick courses and learning opportunities that will be great for their individual children. John the third topic is marijuana. A dozen states allow medical marijuana. Two states, colorado and Washington State support legalization. President obama admits that he got high and smoke. And now he is locking people up for doing what he did. He thinks its funny that he got away with it and its ruining other peoples lives. The federal government should never been involved in this area. John what is ruining other peoples lives . They are getting locked up and prosecuted for the things that he did and he thinks its funny. He is in charge to make sure that those institutions go forward. The federal government should have no involvement. Let the state to represent the people that make those decisions on their own. The president did also say that he has bigger fish to fry than people smoking a joint in colorado. So we will see. What they want is to create a nation of criminals and unsure of who will be prosecuted. They do it not only with marijuana and drug policy, but all areas create we get so much over criminalization is creating homes for all of us. John lets talk about guns. Since the Connecticut School shooting, there is a new drive for federal gun control. At the inauguration, kennedy found people very talkative about that. Guns need to go away. We cant pick and choose, then we . Yes, we can. I like the fourth and fifth. I like them all in. Well, i dont like to second. It can go away. Guns can go away, okay. John this is an educated woman. She will keep the fourth and fifth and thoroughly the second. The Second Amendment was designed to protect us against government tierney. That is someone who is in support of governor tierney. John john what about taxes . We should just do away with taxes altogether and. John we hear this but its not gone. People like federal rules. One of the things that we know is that states without an income tax be so much better economically. We have a higher rate of entrepreneurship, they have higher job growth, higher personal income growth. In states where we are seeing this, where they have experimented with it, they are doing better. Last week for new governors said they will make a push to eliminate their state income tax and i think we will see a lot more states compete against each other to attract businesses and Economic Development in a way. John thank you, Starlee Rhoades and mark meckler. Coming up on obama part two. The fight over immigration and illegal immigration in the president s own words or he will do words come back to haunt him . Our federal debt has increased from 3. 5 trillion to 8. 6 trillion. And yes, i said trillion dollars. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneurs dream. Into a scooter that talks to the cloud . Or turn 30million artifacts. Into a hightech masterpiece . Whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. Hill the goals sneaking to america, take our jobs, a commit crimes, going welfare. No. Most honest, hardworking and builds america up. Of that is a debate about immigration negative year. Obama issued the executive order to allow children whose parents brought them here illegally to work for two years without deportation. But daniel who leads the of the british and assess it was done to score political points. It is not helpful. John why . He guilt legalese is legalizes some workers. It is a temporary solution people on the hill were working to make it permanent it was derailed. John there is a better plan . On one side president obama once a big massive spill that is the unpalatable to the republicans who once it to the bite size chunks huckabee address those who are unauthorized . And those who want to come into the country. John but those who come forward to have fingerprinted calmat pay back taxes, fines, then can apply. Cattle dinky says that. So what we do is decriminalized the activity where business forces higher they need to but unfortunately we have a criminal culture that needs to be addressed. John like your father . He was on the shoulders of his uncle illegally. He made the decision to work john i will push back. If you have a bill that legalizes people this rewards illegality. We will forgive you. They come from rural areas in countries in latin america they do things extralegal is that important. They break a lot to work americans break the law not to work. [applause] john it will lower the wage of the American Workers . They go on welfare . They games this system. We need to set a condition of those will be selfreliant and they have to prove that. Maybe after so many years prove themselves then apply for govett is important. It is important to stay together. John eroded article that said people are not illegal but 12 Million People are. They are illegal. You object . Strongly. Their fathers and mothers and grandparents seeking opportunity. What they do is a legal. Your branding them and dehumanize them it is better not to think of their dreams are aspirations equal to yours. The terminal viggo is the meaning. John thank you daniel garza from Libre Initiative who believes in the freemarket. The real barack obama . Of washington was serious we would reduce debt by returning to responsible responsible fiscal policy. John i will judge if a politician will do the right thing. [applause] making the big romantic gesture. Thats powerful. Verizon. Get a nokia lumia 822 in red for free. John. We must make a choice to reduce health care and the size of the deficit. John yes. We must make hard choices. But the president has not proposed hard choices. And his inaugural address he said that once and then rejected as it sync u. S. Choose between the elderly nextgeneration. The government must be santa claus. I am grateful to grover norquist. He got many politicians to pledge not to raise taxes. Good. It is thought those tax limits would start the beast but that is not working even those that keep spending. It is a far more accurate gauge every dollar government spends if it is borrowed it has hired taxes later. If it brings more dollar the purchasing power puts a tax on the future. What we really need politicians pledging not to raise spending. We have that thanks to Jonathan Bydlak with the coalition to reduce spending with the reject the debt pledge. One is only vote for the balanced budget, i do not vote for new spending that does not offset others into not go increased our way or the debt ceiling. We will for this election cycle. John but most of them lost. True. It is not easy to sign. It is hard to say you not increase bar wing are spending. John therefore i pledge of unauthorized refund in new programs without offsetting cuts. I will not vote for any budget that is not balanced . That seems unrealistic. If you just slow the growth you could get a sadr trouble it is not unrealistic. The budget is not a blueprint. But the senate has not passed in the last 31 2 years. It is less relevant than the other two. It be a fiscal conservative senator but at least now he is on the record if he votes for new spending programs, he can be held accountable. John of fox news poll asks Government Spending is out of control or managed carefully . Sixtytwo said out of control but this year, 83 . Why do people think that . If you ask mr. Doo audience that but it. Who your representative peter. But if you are spending 10,001 the need to do . The average person does not ask for the 5,000 raise but they will say i need to look at what im spending on my money but they dont make that connection to the us political theater and cannot hold them accountable. That is why the pledge is important. Everybody says cut spending. But with specifics is it defense, medicare, a drug war . Last month 40 percent showed everything in the budget should be on the table to balance the budget. That is the highest ever which is about a 4 increase so in context people get we have a spending problem. John thank you, Jonathan Bydlak. We ask the audience and then senator barack obama. [applause] john were back with your questions. Mark meckler founded the Biggest Tea Party group. Daniel garza once the immigrants made the goal and Jonathan Bydlak for politicians not to increase spending. Susan cross says executive orders. What are the limits and who made the most . Executive orders used by president s supposedly to allow them to execute the law. Theyre not specified in the constitution and president s had used them but they are a way to create the imperial presidency. They have no limits. John it was Teddy Roosevelt who issued 1,000 executive orders. Who said the words should be spelled phonetically like enough because only congress had the twothirds vote did that not have been have been. When will the government get serious . Massive inflation . There is a change of incentives. But to cut spending increase spending they have lobbying groups cannot but there needs to be something on the other side that 99 percent of testimony is for more spending. It is time for the Advocacy Organization to show there is a movement of people who care enough to vote. States all across the country have the same problems was spending the the lobbyist outnumber the voters at 10 1. John what does that mean . Somebody who is paid to lobby for this state health care program, environmental office, state schools. And they are politically connected. If your affluent and connected you get part of the pie. Disregarding the morality of the ethics is it more acceptable to break the law . Property and lives are not lost. So give us the comparative a vantage. John thank you very much. Why i wish president obama was light used to be. Youll be amazed at what he said. [applause]usev want an etchasketch . Yes do you want 50 more cash . No. You got talent. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1 cash back on every purchase plus a 50 annual bonus on the cash you earn. Its the card for people who like more cash. Whats in your wallet . I usually say that. Whats in your wallet . Officemax can help you drive suand down. S down. Use your maxperks card and get a 10ream case of officemax multiuse paper for just 4. 99 after maxperks rewards. Find thousands of big deals now. At officemax. 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Plus get this document shredder free but only if you act right now. Call the number on your screen now john did you watch the inaugural ceremony . How many of you . A minority. We watched. I thought obamas started okay cement the patriots a 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of the king with the privileges of a few. John america does not need the tyranny of the king or privileged view but the president went on to say he and the privileged few should force the rest of us. Together, together together, together, together we must do these things together. John that means that they have a vision and all of us together must go in debt to pay for their vision even if we disagree. But america does not have the spending problem. And a debt problem but a prefer senator barack obama. I am here today to talk about americas debt problem. The we here to debate the said that limit is a sign of leadership failure. John right to. That is a failure. He was not president but then he cared about the debt. We cannot find a video of it but here are his words from the congressional record. Of the past five years or federal debt has increased from 5 trillion up to 8. 6 trillion. Yes. I said trillion with solidarity. John he was right to worry senate that is money we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, china, japan, american taxpayers this is a hidden domestic enemy robbing us of infrastructure, families and children, and seniors of the Health Security they have counted on. John exactly. It is a hidden domestic enemy of was glad to hear the president was upset about our interest. Every dollar we pay interest does not go to invest