11. deirdre: hillary clinton slamming donald trump on the state of the economy. this is "risk & reward." i'm deirdre bolton. hillary clinton blasting donald trump as too dangerous to lead the world's largest economy. donald trump responded with our own lou dobbs just moments ago. >> her record is terrible. and you know, she is "crooked hillary." let's face it. she is "crooked hillary." she always has been and nothing will change. for 18 years people haven't had a real wage increase. in some cases now they're working two jobs and making less money than they used to make. people are tired of incompetence. they're tired of being ripped off. they're tired of some cases it is not incompetence. it is politicians wanting to take care of their friends who own corporations or run corporations because nobody can be that stupid to do what they're doing. deirdre: that full interview coming your way on lou dobbs's show. at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. it's a conversation you will not want to miss. speaking of, my political power panel is here. democratic strategist, tamara holder. conservative radio show host and trump supporter, gina loudon, thank you all for being here. curt, which candidate is better for the economy? >> well we, you know, no one could be worse than hillary. hillary represents the disaster that has been the last seven 1/2 years. look i'm not big donald trump supporter but he's right. the middle class is getting crushed. you know who is getting rich? hillary clinton and her pals. they're getting rich. if you're living in a coastal city like los angeles or san francisco, or new york, let the good times roll. and i know, i'm a lawyer in a blue state. i'm doing fine. but you to 30 miles east of here, deirdre, and it's poverty. it's hopelessness. she is a disaster. she has zero credibility. deirdre: okay, i'm going to pick up, curt, on what you said. tamara, i like you to address this, to curt's point, trump tweeted out, hillary defrauded america as secretary of state. she used it as personal hedge fund to get herself rich, corrupt, dangerous, dishonest. that is one of the tweets that he put out as she was speaking. this is your candidate. how do you see it? >> well, i see it as a man who is very good at 160 characters and calling hillary a fraud, calling her crooked, and just like your other panelist he is not a trump supporter per se, i'm not necessarily a hillary supporter. i'm not a huge fan of hers. she is obviously made some very big errors like saying that she was so poor when she came out of the white house and obviously all of the payments she made from speeches but this is, your question is, what can donald trump do about the economy? you don't have to like hillary clinton. donald trump is terrible for the economy. he wants to build a wall. he doesn't like arabs. so arabs won't do business with him. mexicans will not do business with him. where will he get all the business? where are our international friends? he is terrible for the economy and this is beyond 160 character tweet. deirdre: all right. gina, picking up there, how do you see this? because really at end of the day a lot of people supported donald trump and supported senator sanders. we know that he is all but officially out, because they were both talking about jobs. at end of the day, this is what matters to people? >> yeah, and at the end of the day americans realize there is only one candidate remaining in this general election that is actually ever created an actual job, deirdre, and i think that is what people are looking to. he has tremendous record of success in creating jobs. his plan for the economy is solid and substantial. and it is based on guess what? free market principles. not one hillary supporter that i have ever spoken to can name one thing that hillary wants to do for our economy that is free market based. if you want to create a socialist-based economy, go to some other country and run for office f you're running in america. we are capitalist, free market and everything donald trump knows for and has experience in. that's why americans are supporting him in terms of the economy. americans favor him, hands down over hillary clinton. deirdre: a man who says -- >> a man who says he pay his ex-wife in dress and man doesn't believe women should be paid the same -- deirdre: i feel like that was off-the-cuff, which obviously donald trump everything he says off-the-cuff. informal -- >> don't want to get into hillary's record with him. >> we could stipulate, i think we could stipulate that donald trump's personal failings, i don't think they measure up to hillary's personal failings but on the economy, she wants to continue the disaster that is the obama presidency. she has nothing new to offer. my gosh, make college affordable? i know. how about cut off subsidizing leftist friends in act -- academia. bill clinton made 16 million bucks -- deirdre: student debt. mortgage debt is actually the largest amount of debt in the u.s. economy and it is crippling for middle class families to say the least. tamara, curt, gina, thank you all. glad to have you here. >> thank you. deirdre: donald trump seeking support from evangelical leaders today in new york city. >> i'd like to thank all of the wonderful christian leaders and christian voters who have supported me. we want to uphold the sanctity and dignity of life. marriage and family, as the building block, of happiness and success. religious freedom, the right of people, of faith, to freely practice their faith. so important. deirdre: with me now, is an evangelical christian and small business owner. he attended this event earlier today in new york city. i'm so pleased to welcome to the program craig huey. thanks very much for joining me. >> thank you. deiirdre: so i wantnt to actualy you to show us this here, security at new york city was so tight. so were people looking at that with fine print? make sure it is not from six flags? >> absolutely. i tell you there were security after security to make sure that people had registered in advance. they showed their i.d. you couldn't get through. started off with several hundred people, moved up to 1,000 attendees. over 1,000 people evangelical leaders and this was a conversation with donald trump. deirdre: so i definitely want to talk about faith issues but because you're a small businessman. >> right. deirdre: this is business channel. you heard my conversation with the panel. why do you support him as a small business owner? >> well, as a small business owner, i have had 30 years of creating jobs, and i have seen with my ad agency, companies going out of business because of these regulations and taxes that small businessmen are experiencing. i have created thousands of jobs myself. i have created millionaires. and what i know is that people can't do it with today's regulations. donald trump offers hope. hillary clinton offers a terrible continue ages. deirdre: craig, something that maybe people who don't have small businesses don't realize is how much of administrative overhead, when you talk about regulations, you have to be paying lawyers on retainer. you have to pay compliance depending on regulations, that is really crippling is it not, for a small organization? >> it is horrific, i have to pay three employees worth of regulatory costs. plus i have to make sure that what we do is compliant which means many times we don't even try to do something we should do for clients. it is strangling the economy. deirdre: hats off to you. we've been successful in the face of all of that. i want to shift gears. evangelical community is so important for this country, first and foremost. it is important or been considered a, let's say point of strength for the republican party. >> right. deirdre: so how do you see donald trump? because he is not a traditional candidate? >> no, he is not. people of faith, evangelical christians, some 60 million voters, and in 2012, about oh, 39 million did not vote. this is a sleeping giant. sleeping giant. they didn't like romney and didn't like different candidates. what trump has to do is motivate the evangelicals. and this is a hard task. that meeting when it began, 1/3 of the people were against trump. 1/3 were neutral and 1/3 were for trump. deirdre: what do you think is the most important message that he can deliver to that community? what is at the heart of the matter? >> he already has done it in one respect. that is the supreme court. three or four new judges will be appointed by the next president. we can not have hillary clinton appoint those judges. and evangelicals recognize that. in addition to that, the top question among 50,000 questions sent out in nationwide, was on religious liberty, a small business owners and employees. that is the number one issue. and he has addressed that. deirdre: that is fantastic you came in to talk to us about that. this perfect crossover as you say faith issues and business issues. craig, thank you very much. >> thank you. deirdre: good to see you here. craig huey with me there. we'll shift gears, move more international if you like. quick check on markets. investors eyeing this vote. will the u.k., big question, leave the european union or not? on thursday it is going to be a huge focal point. you can see how markets are moving in anticipation of that. charlie gasparino, my colleague is in london on the ground. charlie you've been speaking with many people on the street. what are they telling you because this vote looks close? >> it looks close, bookies, professional gamblers trying to game this, basically it will move towards remain negotiate e.u. polls are showing a different story. much 50/50, even-steven. that is where we are. i will say this the financial community here is, they're not quite freaking out but they're about that close. they are worried about massive market turmoil, trading of british pound, other securities. affecting u.s. markets. if there is a vote to leave the euro. they believe it is going to be turmoil. what every trader we spoke to today, told us, about that does happen, likely a bank holiday. votes get tallied thursday night, early friday morning. friday they will shut down the banking system if they vote to exit. if they don't vote to exit, it will be business as usual. that is where people are right now. a lot of concern from the financial community. that you know these polls are close enough, that it could sway and they could vote to exit and that would cause a lot of market turmoil. back to you. >> charlie, we'll be counting on you for coverage. when you talk about freak out, a lot of people saying if london, if u.k. does leave the e.u., a lot of european banks with headquarters in london could leave london. that could potentially hurt local economy. there is flip side of argument of business people, sick and tired of going to brussels every time they need to make a business decision. charlie gasparino, thank you very much. with us there from london, england. after putting attorney general loretta lynch on all the sunday shows to push the obama administration talking points, well there was a 180 and in fact the unedited orlando terrorist transcripts were released. my guest says the white house hung the ag out to dry. colonel ralph peters is my guest next. every day you read headlines about businesses being hacked and intellectual property being stolen. that is cyber-crime. and it affects each and every one of us. microsoft created the digital crimes unit to fight cyber-crime. we use the microsoft cloud to visualize information so we can track down the criminals. when it comes to the cloud, trust and security are paramount. we're building what we learn back into the cloud to make people and organizations safer. family road trip! fun! check engine. not fun! but, you've got hum. that's like driving with this guy. all you do is press this, and in plain english, "coolant", you'll know what's wrong. if you do need a mechanic, just press this. 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>> well, certainly embarrassed her. loretta lynch, our attorney general, is a very intelligent woman with a very good track record in legal realm. and she is too smart for this. but clearly some neostalinnist at the white house decided that american people were so stupid, we're so stupid -- deirdre: or so delicate somehow? >> muslims are too delicate. we're too stupid. so they wind up insulting everybody. it was worse than wrong. it was stupid. it was like a child hiding behind the sofa with his leg sticking out. after all we had already heard about, all we already knew about the nightclub shooter. deirdre: no, i figured she would be furious, right? >> well, she must have been. clearly the white house is slow rolling the clinton, various clinton investigations. it is just the wrong thing to do. and by the way, when the white house panders to radical and subversive muslim-american groups that pretend to represent law-abiding muslim-americans, we actually harm those communities. the average muslim-american does not want his or her child exposed to hate speech in mosques but we facilitate it. deirdre: somebody used a phrase of the bigotry of low expectations. >> right. deirdre: which seems to ring very true. >> zuhdi jasser. deirdre: how outrageous was it that the transcript was edited to begin with? even if you listened to edited version it was clear what was going on? >> this was absolutely stupid and orwellian and it is censorship. to censor our highest law enforcement officer as we already censorship training courses for fbi, it is orwellian it is doublespeak. if we can't discuss islam seriously, good, bad indifferent, how do you deal with islamist terror? the way you do that is make it go away by not describing islamist terror. it is like 1984 and "alice through the looking glass." i have never seen anything like it. deirdre: speaking of never seen anything like it there is a lot of tension now in the u.k., you heard from our colleague charlie gasparino. >> yes. deirdre: billionaire investor george soros one who says things will be crazy in the markets if britain votes to leave the european union and just as many people think that it is a perfectly reasonable, justifiable and solid decision but i'm wondering from a military standpoint what are the implications? >> i was, as far as the markets to, everybody panics like, at first shot all the ducks take off. it is a appalling. as investor i would love britain to stay in. if i were british i would want to be out. as far as military implications go, much the same with the economic implications. everything is exaggerated. both sides exaggerate what will happen. in fact, no matter what happens, there will be a great muddling through. in fact, the british military might be somewhat freer to act but on the whole it would be a wash. this is about the e.u. it is not about nato, which is different. the e.u. has never been effective militarily. so strategically, to shift from merely militarily to strategically across the board, economically, politically, everything, whether or not it is good for britain, it would actually long term be good for the e.u., deirdre, because the e.u. has grown too big, too unwieldy, too unmanageable, too dictatorial. it needs to be smaller and lighter and try to do a bit less. and by the way the brits, there is this huge cultural divide. the atlantic ocean is narrower than the english channel. the brits, one of the problems they are having they have traditions of individual freedom and social freedoms did not previal or pertain to continental europe where things are always more regulated. you're seeing not just economic issue but a cultural issue and strategic issues. and again, if i were a brit i would want out. as an american, i don't think i have a right to an opinion. as an investor i want britain to stay in because markets just panic. deirdre: it's a good septic analysis. why we love you colonel ralph peters. thank you. >> love you, deirdre. deirdre: next time, next 48 hours we'll talk a lot about this decision. we'll keep you up-to-date. meantime what happened today? oil, take a look. 2% lower. back from the highest level in more than a week. investors of course monitoring the decision about the u.k. vote. if you look at how all of this affects you at the pump, goose prices have dropped for nine straight days. today's national average, 2.32 doll per gallon. when we come back, orlando terror attack prompting some in the lgbt community to support donald trump. prompting others to register guns. gay latino turned donald trump supporter is my guest next. tokyo-style ramen noodles. freshly made in the japanese tradition, each batch is small. special. unique... every bowl blurring the line between food...and art. when you cook with incredible ingredients... you make incredible meals. fresh ingredients. step-by-step-recipes. delivered to your door. get your first two meals free blueapron.com/cook. >> the lgbt community, these are people that had a place, this was a place of safety, a place where people felt safe. if you think about it, what the violation that took place, that was allowed to take place, that violation that took place, and weakness on behalf of your leadership. deirdre: donald trump on the orlando terrorist massacre. when are now supporting donald trump as they feel are his support for their community. pink pistol saw the skyrocketing. with me now. vice president of the log cabin republicans of orange county, california, welcome, you say you became a true trump supporter after the massacre in orlando. why is that? >> i became a true trump supporter after the massacre, donald trump became the first republican nominee to finally acknowledge the lgbt community, and reach out to the lgbt community, both for support, and to make sure that we're welcomed in his candidacy. this really made me feel more excited to support him and make sure i can do everything that i can to make sure he is elected in november. deirdre: this breaks a lots of stereo types, most people think that lgbt supports the democratic side of the ticket this case hillary clinton. >> right, most of the lgbt community right now, is supporting hillary clinton. but, i think after this horrible terrorist attack, i believe a lot of those supporters are undecided people, they have come to the trump train. because, donald trump is not just fighting for lgbt, communities, she fighting for all american -- he is fighting for all americans, he wants to make the country secure. deirdre: nester that is a great point, the idea that safety trumps -- i am not minimizing the decision made on gay marriage, you are saying physical safety is more important than any civil change, not that it has to be binary. >> of course,. i have had a lot of leftist liberal tell me, donald trump does not care about gay marriage, but gay americans care about jobs, we care about our border, we care about health care, and education it is not necessarily about gay marriage. it is also about being able to live our lives, the way we want to live them could regardless if we want to get married or not, and donald trump, i believe is the right candidate for us. deirdre: nester, i am glad you brought up those points as well, you can't look at any community as a money -- block, you worry about job, rent, and security no matter what your orientation. i want to ask, what do you say when you do talk about politics with some members maybe you are trying to recruit or people who don't see your point of view? >> i tell those individuals, is look, donald trump is the candidate that republicans primary voters, including myself, picked. he is at unlike all of us -- not unlike all of us, i feel he can finally bridge the gap between the american people and the political class in washington, d.c. i tell these individuals, that donald trump has not been a career politician. and he has not been part of washington d.c. longer than i have been alive. to a lot of these people that is important, because, they feel like our government is broken, they feel there is a professional political class in washington, d.c. that does not care about the american people. and i believe that donald trump does. i believe he is doing this because he cares about the country. deirdre: nester, you and your organization will have a lot more support after this conversation. thank you so much for sharing your insights, we're glad to have you here. >> thank you. deirdre: nester moro jr., vice president of log cabin republicans in orange county, california. since we're on the theme, we want to show you where gun stocks closed. person arrested for attempting to kill donald trump was an illegal immigrant, border share paul babeu will tell me where he sees the weakest links after this. deirdre: an illegal immigrant's plan "to kill to donald trump t weekend, michael sanford try the to steal a officer's gun to carry out the event, an assassination he had been planning for a year. with me, sheriff paul babeu. it was revealed that sanford's visa expired. he was in u.s. illegally, what does this say about communication and a subject you are an expert on immigration? >> underscores the problems with our immigration system. it is just not illegal immigrants that come across southwest border, it is also 40% of nearly 20 million illegals who are here are people who originally lawfully came here, and have over stayed their visa. there is no consequence, so why should they ever leave because there is no real tracking mechanism in place, or enforcement. this michael sanford who 20 years old came from california, over to las vegas, with explicit intent as he said in his own words after he was mirror and -- mirandaizeed to kill donald trump, he did not expect to leave that venue, he goes into this secure area, and strikes up a conversation with a las vegas metro police officer, then goes for the officer's gun, in an effort to use that gun to kill donald trump, outrageous. deirdre: this is outrageous, and reinforces how lucky we are to have you, teams such the yours, who really have to be paying attention, if someone is chit chatting then changed course that requires just being alert. ryan: >> lute absolutely, he told this officer he wanted to get a autograph in donald trump. police officers, were trained from the first day in the act academyy to always protect our weapon, fight like it is our life it circumstance we never want -- it is, we never want that weapon to be used against not just us but anyone else, the other officers around took him into custody, he faces what could be 10 years in prison. deirdre: which for trying to hatch a lot like this seem -- a plot like this seems light. i want to ask you, if you don't mind in the wake of orlando terror attack, donald trump spoke about profiling, different from racial profiling, but he was criticized anyway, i want to play his comment, and then get your thoughts. >> profile suggesting some we'll have to think about as a country, other countries do it you look at israel, and at others, they do it. they do successfully. you know, i hate the concept of profilicking but we have to use -- profiling but we have to use common sense, and we have to use our head, it is not the worse thing to do. deirdre: what your take on difference between profiling and racial profiling? >> there is a clear difference, we're in business of facts, clues, and evidence. and in law enforcement when we get information about somebody or a group of people, that meet certain criteria or description, that is who we look for. if you just called in, and said, hey there is this white guy who has a shaved head, and a blue shirt, and wearing a blazer running down the street, they will look for me. right, so, you don't have to be a law man to figure this out. that, if we have a whole set of criteria we're looking for we should be laser focused on them, not on elderly women coming through a tsa check in an airport, this is what so obscene, and we have to identify who the enemy circumstance is and beagresstestify pursue them, and -- be aggressive to pursue them. take them into custody before they could cause any harm to american citizens. deirdre: sheriff paul babeu thank you for joining us. >> thank you. deirdre: tesla owner, elan musk is largest shareholder of the companies he owns about 20% in each. and this combination would essentially mary his two -- marry his two biggest silicon valley start ups. solar city because it is target up, around 21%. >> and one former cia operative stuck overseas, she said she did not participate in a controversial rendition program, but he is in a go to jail -- but she may go to jail, the attorney who handled her u.s. litigation is joining me, saying she has is joining me, saying she has been abandoned by the obama administration. or stop to find a bathroom? 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>> there was no evidence what so ever of any substantive nature she participated in this rendition, she was about 150 miles away skiing with her son. on vacation. when the rendition happened. and the only evidence the italians produced was an e-mail that mentioned the name sabrina. and everything else was pretty much nonni non-- nonnic existen. deirdre: how did this happen? >> they turned on all of the americans, it was a very were a botched intelligence operation, what we know of comes only really from the italians a few americans who have spoken about the case, u.s. government has stayed silence the obama administration and bush administration. deirdre: could hillary clinton as former secretary of state, somehow clear the record? >> she could, i september her ii -- i sent her two letters, one i sign personaly, the other from my associate, the first letter when she was secretary of state was classified then, i was unable to send it or show it to anyone in the media, which is why no one heard of it i think that was done deliberately to minimize my chances to publicize sabrina's case, then we ended up suing, i got her legal reputation paid are in in italy by u.s. government, but we were unable her diplomatic -- immunity which i think she should have it. deirdre: she is the only american facing these charges, she is the only american potentially facing jail time, is that right? >> ha is right, when the italians went after everyone there was about 26 american names most were fake names, but about 6 of them were real, individuals. and couple of them have been pardoned by the italian government for some reason, but sabrina had never stepped in italy, because she has been living in portugal there was a european arrest warrant out for her and they snatched her, now they are go to extradite her legally from portugal to italy, she will be only person, not even an italian has faced any type of criminal changes, and u.s. government has done nothing, at least publicly to help her. deirdre: i am glad you are here calm talking about it maybe they will receive a few more letters on her behalf, it does sound botched indeed, thank you, mark for the time, mark zayde with me now. >> i to to make a note we reached out to state department and not received a response. deirdre: former navy seal, tells hillary clinton to stop talking. in a new nra video, he trains every day citizens how to protect themselves, he said that thear 15 is a -- the ar-15 is a weapon for every day american with training. he is my next guest. if you're taking multiple medications, does your mouth often feel dry? 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