Get in conference to find a replacement. It is not a replacement in and of itself, and i am not going to vote for the skinny bill, if im not assured by the house that there will be a conference where my idea and other ideas can be taken up so we can actually replace obamacare. Im not going to vote for a bill that is terrible policy and horrible politics just because we have to get something done. Gerri and the beat goes on, right . So now, Mitch Mcconnell needs senators graham, johnson, mccain, purdue and lee to get on board or kill the health care bill. Joining me congressman Paul Mitchell who coauthored an oped with the freshman class in the house calling on the senate to get their act together on health care. Congressman, welcome to the show, great to have you here. Thank you for doing something all of america has been wanting to do for days now, and thats calling out the senate. Theyre about as popular as a glass of milk on prom night, if you know what i mean this latest news, Lindsey Graham calling it a fraud, do you think this Means Nothing is going to happen tonight . If he could predict whats going to happen in the senate, he should go to las vegas where he can make money. Oped that we put out speaks to what the people said to us as we ran fors on. 12 other freshman joined me in the letter, we did our job in the house. We worked hard as it, and as you know from watching, it wasnt easy, wasnt simple, we did thrashing around, but we got a bill out we thought accomplished a great deal. Senate needs to do something rather than say we cant do anything unless the house assures us we give them a bill. Gerri thats what Lindsey Graham says, ive got a lot of ideas, so do other senators, we want to make sure they are heard. We dont want the house to take the bill, pass, it give it to the president. Is that what you guys intend to do . There is no intent here. We want to see what the Senate Passes and make a decision, or the other way to put, it show me the money, show me what you have rather than assurance in the house. We passed a bill. We didnt ask for a list of assurances in the senate. If we had, wed be done by now. A bill out of the senate, what they think is good policy and move forward. Gerri amen and amen and on and on it goes. I have no confidence in tonight, though. Let me ask you this question, i think its really important because everybody is objecting to the skinny bill now, and just to be clear what that means is that you would no longer have to have coverage. That was what obamacare required. Everybody had to sign up for coverage. Skinny bill, one of the things it would do is not require that anymore. If the senate were to pass skinny bill, they should accept skinny paychecks, why . Im not sure i understand the question, but as we pass in the house, we believe people have the choice. The idea of mandating everyone should have coverage and mandating precisely the coverage doesnt make sense in this country and the free market environment. So we need to have choice for people, and clearly Affordable Care act doesnt provide that. We believe the American Health care act does, and thats a step forward. Now if the senate has a better idea, bring it forward and get this done. Gerri quickly, congressman, before you go, i know youre at the white house, talking to the administration about your letter, about the bill, about health care. How confident are they something is going to get through . I think everyone is hopeful. You need to be hopeful, otherwise you frankly give up. I think the American People are getting frustrated with inactivity. The house, there is 270 bills the house passed that are over in the senate. As you know, confirmations are dragging in the senate. The American People are getting frustrated. Gerri no kidding. I couldnt agree with you more, congressman, thanks for coming on the show tonight. Great to have you here, appreciate your time. Happy to be here, thank you. Gerri Speaker Paul Ryan speaking to our very own Maria Bartiromo on the health care scramble and taking the border adjustment tax out of play. Here is a sneak peek. What is important is Common Ground how to do tax reform so we can get tax reform done in 2017. What i and other house leaders who have been pushing the border adjustment, i think its the way to go, the right tax reform plan. If its going to stop us getting to consense to us get tax reform done, we dont want that to happen, meaning border adjustment. We want consense to us get tax reform done. Gerri that was the headline, border adjustment tax out of the tax plan, you can catch the interview in its entirety 6 00 a. M. Eastern time on mornings with maria on fox business. Joining me National Review contributing editor, ned ryun, former george w. Bush writer and former aide to senator chuck schumer. Deroy, start with you, get back to the Health Care Issue for just a second. This is a big one can, go all night long. Theyre talking about bringing cots so the guys can stay up all night. Do we have to go through this . Isnt there a way for the senate to come to some kind of agreement on a bill thats going to make it through . I think all of us enjoy them seeing them work hard for a change. They will probably be on vacation next week, perhaps. If they have to keep the cots out all weekend and next week, thats what they need to do. They ran for seven years repealing and replacing obamacare, it has to be done. People are suffering with coverage shooting up 100 or more in arizona. You can keep the plan, thats a lie. My plan was canceled not once but twice, if it means the senate has to lose sleep to get it done, lets do that. Gerri chris, youve been watching the votearama. Im going to give you red meat, have some fun. Can the republicans govern . Doesnt look that way, does it, right . After what Lindsey Graham said, i dont know how anybody could vote for the skinny plan. He killed that plan, even if you think theres a Conference Committee. By the way, gerri, hasnt been a Conference Committee of anything important in the senate and the house for eight years now. So even gerri wait, wait, lets get to that in a minute and confine your statements right now to tonight my friend. Tonight. This is all important. We could actually get legislation through the senate that would change health care for our lifetimes. Is that likely in your view . I dont think its likely in my view and, you know, it appears to me that this is Mitch Mcconnells waterloo and going to end pretty much the same way it did for napoleon. Thats the end. Gerri chris, you are so harsh. Ned to you you are trouble, im telling you. Gerri ned, let me get to you, same question, can the republicans govern . Is there a way forward here . I think thats the big question were facing, can they come to agreement, find agreement with the house. Is there a way to get this done . You bring up a great question. I mean republicans have demonstrated a wild inability to govern, and as i have joked, they have the nasty habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of history and shooting themselves in one foot and calmly shooting themselves in the other foot. I will say this. Lets not seek perfection, get as much done as we can and possible on the bill, get it to the house. I find it ironic that senator graham was making all of these demands that you cant pass this, it has to go to conference, et cetera. At what point, gerri, did they decide that they couldnt sit down months and months ago and say lets hash this out before we go down this pipe. Years ago let me get deroy back in here, everybody is putting their foot on the pedal. Pence saying trump made it clear, inaction is not an option, everybody piling on telling the senate to get down to it, the chances of finding strong agreement are very small. Is there a way forward . Look, another metaphor, i dont think the skinny bill is an oceanliner, its a life boat to. Go to Conference Committee and house and Senate Members sit down and come up with something that will make them all happy. Thats what they need to do, move the process along and get to where the house and senate can agree and get a bill the president can sign and get obamacare out of our hair. Gerri chris, quickly, its not in your genes, quickly, you were talking about conference before, the reality is its very difficult for them to put something forward thats really strong. Usually the conference bills are watered down, what do you see coming out of a conference, if we can get to that point . Look, if they go to a Conference Committee you have to have democrats involved with the committee. Thats what a conference is. You actually have a chance to get real legislation where have you input from both sides of the aisle that might have a chance of passing. That said, again, i think graham doomed the skinny bill tonight and thats the only thing that will pass with the reconciliation rules and theyve got a real problem, unless they go nuclear and pass something without 60 votes that doesnt need reconciliation, which is also a possibility. Gerri, one thing, they are looking like inept children on a playground. Trump can do a few things, look at the tax code, i mentioned this, he can reform the tax code to really address the underlying cost of rising premiums and deductibles by tweeking the tax code because hospital systems, two thirds are acting as nonprofits and make windfall profits. He can go in and do this without having to deal with congress and say enough is enough. You cannot act as nonprofits and make all of this revenue. He can go around, and theyre figuring out what the heck theyre doing, trump can make strong moves and address it. That would require leadership. Gerri lots of ways to square that circle. Great job, panel. More breaking news from the hill. Want to tell you about. This right now the senate is voting on combined russiairannorth korea sanctions bill, well keep you posted on. That as you remember, we are live in this show, live right here at fbn. Well be right back. Out type 2. You have type 2 diabetes, right . Yes. So let me ask you this. How does diabetes affect your heart . It doesnt, does it . Actually, it does. Type 2 diabetes can make you twice as likely to die from a cardiovascular event, like a heart attack or stroke. And with Heart Disease, your risk is even higher. You didnt know that. No. Yeah. But, wait, theres good news for adults who have type 2 diabetes and Heart Disease. Jardiance is the only type 2 diabetes pill with a lifesaving cardiovascular benefit. 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Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. So now that you know all that, what do you think . That its time to think about jardiance. Ask your doctor about jardiance. And get to the heart of what matters. Gerri you think Insurance Coverage on the Obamacare Exchanges is expensive now . Just wait say health insureures, a proposal to scale back the skinny act that would get rid of mandates could push rates higher if passed. Joining me dan weber and attended a meeting at the white house on health care, and steve cortes, former trump advisory Hispanic Council member. Dan, start with out policy, were watching the guys armwrestle on the floor of the senate, manoamano, everybody fighting it out. The exchanges are falling apart. Thats right. Gerri from what ive heard, probably 40 of the counties have one insurance option next year, if that. So many going down in flames. Can these exchanges work if the folks dont come to some kind of agreement and soon because these insurers are getting mighty antsy . Thats correct, and the word for today is courage. We have 1. 2 million americans who belong to amac, and our members are furious that the senators havent grown up and gotten together and solved this problem. And steve, to you. I want to read a statement the insurers made, this is Blue Cross Blue Shield association. They said this and steve, i guess you can think, well, thats Blue Cross Blue Shield saying were going to raise rates, premiums, all the costs for folks signing up for much more expensive. What do you say . Right, and gerri, couple things, first of all, yes, its sound logic, if we dont force people something they dont want to buy, they might not buy it. Thats life. Heres the more important point in terms of policy for our country. Obamacare is imploding. Republicans have promised us for several election cycles that given the reins of power, they will repeal and replace. Guess what . The American People gave them the reins of power, both houses of congress and the white house, and i would say to the squishy republican senators who voted to repeal obamacare when it didnt matter, when they knew there would be no actual outcome because there was a democratic white house, you need to find your back bone, and i hope all of them, i think there is seven republican senators who did that. I hope all are primaried because they deserve to lose, theyre the case for term limits and the American People demand and deserve better. Gerri you know, im laughing, but the reality is people are very, very angry about this. I see it on my twitter feed on, my facebook feed. Dan, tonight get back to you and back to this, the Republican Opposition to this skinny bill, and the skinny bill does virtually nothing, gets rid of the mandates, couple other things, not very much at all. Lindsey graham saying its a fraud. Whats your reaction to it . My reaction is theyre missing the main point. The main point is obamacare did not reduce the costs of medicine, and neither does any of the republican bills. So what weve got to do, got to have hsa expansion under massive scale. Introduce things like pro bono health care, where doctors get a Tax Deduction for treating people for nothing, and that will cover seven million poor americans that dont have insurance now. Part of the 27 million who still dont have insurance under obamacare. Gerri steve, look, anthem said they may pull out. Talk about raising rates but they said we could just go, and we already know there are other Health Insurers out. Isnt the senate fiddling while health care is burning right now . Very much, gerri. I think anthem left three states, i believe so far. And may leave all the states in the United States, and by the way, who can blame them . If i were a shareholder, im not, if i were a shareholder, i would say yes, you should not participate in this system if youre not going to get the subsidies that were promised to you under obamacare. But i think youre exactly right. Theyre fiddling while rome burns. The Health Care System of america is badly broken mainly because of government control, we unleader the free market to work magic. Take care of people who have incurable or chronic situations who are uninsurable effectively. Take care of them relatively easily, let the rest of the people, almost everyone, operate in a free market scenario. If we do, well see Better Outcomes for a lower price. Gerri i just want to add before we go that anthem reported really good earnings. If theyre suffering mightily, its super hard to tell from eps statement. 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