killer, sitting around a table with leaders of the lgbt community, leader of the s.w.a.t. team, a county commissioner, and a muslim imam who has been embracing the lgbt community -- [cheers and applause] i was so proud. i was so proud. well, but i'm proud of everybody in this country who gets up every day and makes a contribution and does your part. and what the folks in orlando said to me was so touching. they said, we have to stands against hatred no matter who it's against. racial hatred, religious hatred, home phobia, xenophobia, all of these haze that infect the soul. and we have to stands against violence. everywhere. and that includes standing up for common sense gun safety measures. [cheers and applause] i want to say something else, i really do. because this is serious to me. i love this country. i am so grateful for all the opportunities and blessings i have had. and i am so humbled by the prospect of being nominated next week in philadelphia. but here is what i want you to hear. i will do everything i can to make life better for hard-working americans. i will do everything i can to bring people together. i will do everything i can to keep us safe, and i know a little bit about that. now, you can't put this -- you can't put this into law is what i'm about to say. but we need more love and kindsness in this country -- kindness in this country. we need more respect between and among our fellow americans. we need to be listening more to each other. the last thing we need are leaders who try to divide us even more than we are. we should be working to reach out to those who are different from us. our differences would make up our diversity makes the united states the strongest, best positioned country in the world for the 21st century. [cheers and applause] i am proud to be an american, and i want to be sure that our children and grandchildren have the same pride and the same opportunity to have the access to the american dream that so many of us have had so that they too can enjoy the fruits of freedom, liberty, justice, equality and opportunity. charles: we have been watching hillary clinton at a rally in tampa, florida tonight. the democratic convention kicking off monday. she is expected to announce her vice presidential running mate. maybe there could be a delay on the vp pick. but we have both news items for you. but right now i want to bring in dick morris, former clinton advisor. and danielle mclaughlin. you were admiring hillary's handy work. you know all the ins and outs of her technique. >> we were just chatting about that in the break. she always hides behind the generic. she feels if we all knew her well we would never vote for her. so she constructs an alternate persona to be junked. not even phoney. just not her. she is not running for president, the first woman is running. she is not running, she is the one who stands between donald trump and the white house. she is the one to vote for tore gun control and abortion rights. the republican convention was showcasing donald trump putting him in the most favorable light. hillary will paper over the issues and so that nobody is judging hillary. they are judging her circumstances. charles: one thing we did hear from this speech, this is the most energy i have seen hillary with in a long time. she is also trying to portray. she is portraying a picture of donald trump using his own words against him. she talked to danielle about the speech. she called it dark and divisive. we heard dark a lot. she talked about fear and anger and no solutions offered. he didn't offer a jobs program, then she went on to say, to sort of portray him as some sort guy who thinks only in a country where it's always "we." >> i would like to address the point that she is using a rhetorical device here. about her trying to create the distinction and continues between her and trump. i'm not sure the republican can vehicle was about trump the man, it was have much about trump not being hillary. and an indictment of all the this she is reportedly doing wrong. charles: the voters are lucky in that we have two distinct people. and the irony is they both have high unfavorables. so they will have to -- the idea for me was, let's make sure we portray donald trump in a light maybe the public doesn't know, but his children and friend know. if they can learn that, then those unfavorables start to go away. >> if a normal politician stand up there and says i'm going to do that and do that, you sort are of yawn. but when his daughter says he built this, he did this and he did this and when he sets his mind to something it gets it done. her speech and donald trump's' convention speech. manage you are in a room and you are discussing crime, and there is a social worker and a cop. you are his being to both, they both make sense, but different approaches. let's assume you get a phone call and there is a mugger outside with a gun. who are you going to listen to, the cop or the social worker. charles: every time we go outside is there a mugger waiting for us? >>we need both and hillary clinton is suggesting to the country that she is the person who can provide both. she want to improve regulations and talk more to each other. but she has said that we need to be careful about collecting our resources and fighting our common enemies and joining with europe and other nations to make sure we do that. charles: she used the word diversity in the first minute or so of that. >> as you increase the muslim population of the united states, you are making us safer from terrorism committed by muslims, not by most muslims. terrorists are muslims. >> donald trump's solution is to say that current immigration -- the system by which our asylum seekers are looked at is two years long. the vetting process -- charles: we have an update and i want to turn the news back to munich, germany. authority are saying they are searching for multiple gunmen after one person opened fire at a shopping mall in northwest munich killing 8 people. we'll give confirmation on that. we'll get an update from fox business correspondent cheryl casone.ted we have is nine. 8 victims, but this 9th body police found near the scene of the shooting is being investigated with a robot. we are getting reports that dead man found near the scene had a red backpack on the body, similar to the one worn by the gunman seen in video shooting outside of that mcdonald's restaurant where this all began six hours ago in munich, germany. this could be the shooter. now police at this point say they are still looking for three shooters. that's the official line coming from german police. munich is under lockdown tonight, we should say. but at the same time, special forces have landed in munich to continue the search for these three gunmen. witnesses say they saw three gunmen holding a short rifle. but again the reports have been very difficult to kind go through. what happened, the shooting we have seen happened at the olympic shopping center. this is in the center of munich. it's two levels. 135 stores. this is the central tourist area in munich. this was a friday even when this happened. it was 6:00 p.m. local time. the streets west virginia crowd. we have been told that the mall itself has been cleared of victims. there were concerns some of the victims were still in there. with the death toll, 9. 8 victims. the 9th possibly a short. they are still looking for three shooters and most of the highways north of munich have been shut down. we are getting some statement, donald trump just released a statement saying our prayers are with all those affected by the horrible attacks in music. governor mike pence and mitch mcconnell putting out a statement as well. jay john on was on his way to philly when all this broke. he's going down to do security checks a the dnc. he spoke about munich and the need in the united states to keep a watchful eye out for possible terror attacks in this country. we are following developments. another attack in europe. charles: we'll come back to you later with more on that shooting rampage in munich. it left at least nine people dead, one could be part of the crew that committed this awful crime. charles: 9 people dead, possibly one of the shooters involved. authorities are searching for three more gunmember after that attack in munich earlier today. i want to bring on my panel of security experts to discuss. this is happening so frequently on a weekly basis, just in 2016, what's going on here. >> what's going on here and it pains me to see it. what we are seeing here is nothing short of an all-out intelligence failure. what we need to do is what hillary clinton is suggesting. there needs to be an intelligence surge. the person --ed the person to blame for this is edward snowden. the average american and european doesn't understand the chilling effect he has had on the intelligence community to collect information. we can't collect information and analyze it and we can't predict these things. i have friends in all these agencies and they all approached me with the same level of frustration. charles: i think the intelligence aspect of this is valid, particularly when you have got jihadist sites saying we want our soldiers or troops or believe to go out and commit these heinous acts. but even if intelligence, do we have the wherewithal or the ability or will to nip them in the bud? even if we know they are coming. >> part of this is you can always do the intelligence better. and is there frustration weren't intel services here man overseas? sure there is. but more than an intelligence failure. this is a failure of law in a sense in terms of what you are able to do. intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies work with parameters established by the governments they exist under. just as people get frustrated here after orlando. and say how could we not have known about this individual, because we are not going to sit on his facebook site nonstop. we are not going to open an active investigation when we don't have the information required by law to maintain that investigation. there is always a default position after any attack, it's an intelligence failure. you are not going to stop all these attacks. anybody who has worked in intelligence understands that. we don't get the risk down to zero it's a human-based course of events. we have to stop going to the default position of it's an intelligence failure. >> we started the week off with a knife attack and ax attack in germany. there was a lot of evidence something like this was growing as well. munich was talked about as a potential target. from the policeman's point of view, how do we defend ourselves from this? >> we have to be as proactive as we can. the intelligence piece is very significant. but just as mr. baker said, it's not the only piece. there is a lot of other pieces that go along with that. there was intelligence that came out of germany two days ago from the interyear minister in germany. you know what that intel joins was? he was warning the people in that country to be alert because they have intelligence and information that a lone wolf was going to strike possibly in the next few weeks. we don't know if this was a lone wolf. it's starting to appear to be that way. we can have all the intelligence in the world. just like the prime minister of the interior said in germany they cannot guarantee your people will be 100% safe. that's the same here in the united states. charles: keep it there and we'll continue this discussion. the discussion of lone wolf, maybe we should stop using that. in the meantime we'll have more details on this shooting rampage. police are investigating it as a terror attack. we'll have a lot more when we come back. with usaa is awesome. homeowners insurance life insurance automobile insurance i spent 20 years active duty they still refer to me as "gunnery sergeant" when i call being a usaa member because of my service in the military to pass that on to my kids something that makes me happy my name is roger zapata and i'm a usaa member for life. usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. with this level of intelligence... ...it's a supercomputer. with this grade of protection... it's a fortress. and with this standard of luxury... it's an oasis. introducing the completely redesigned e-class. it's everything you need it to be... and more. see your authorized dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. >> the events unfolding in munich come days after anothatt. north of munich several people were severely injured and isis later claimed responsibility. last night donald trump laid out his view that world is a day yotic and unsafe place. he was criticized by painting a dark world. but the ceo of starbucks said that the unrest around the world is eroding consumer confidence. the shooting started in front of a mcdonald's. the mall was the olympic mall built in 1972 alongside the munich olympics. we know the city has a history with this sort of terrorism and many people thinking mcdonald's is a symbol of western nations. >> i would like to challenge the premise by mrs. clinton that we need an intel surge. we have had deep existing liaison partnerships with our european partners, especially the germans for 60 years. people need to recognize the germans accepted over 2 million new immigrants, a million refugees in the last year. in three of the 16 states where the cologne area where they had the problems. and bavaria in the southeast where you just had two incidents. so the germans are going to take responsibility for their own problems. immigration brought a large population which they are unable to cover. the germans will have to increase their own security problems. but this is a german responsibility on german territory. charles: we have had our fair share of attacks. the media saying donald trump's speech was dark and ominous. hillary clinton picking you have on that theme today. >> president obama also spoke today and he said violent crime is lower than any administration in the last three or four decades. are these things illuminated because of social media and the networks or is there a serious issue we should be concerned about? >> it's both, right? it's a political season. both parties are playing this up as you would expect them to. but the reality is here in the u.s. the f.b.i. is stretched thin on counter terrorism concerns. more so than they have seen basically ever. as gary points out the germans and others, it's almost a self-inflicted wound across the pond. it's an unsatisfying answer. yes we are facing more problems and the politics are beating the drum on it. just imagine the country of 80 million people germany bring in 1 million refugees. think about that. 80 million people in your country. you are supposed to imagine that those million have been properly vetted, thoroughly background checked, screened, whatever you want to call it. it's a ridiculous concept. it 7 not happening. this is not something we extrapolate from what happens in germany, belgium or france and look at ourselves and start the self-righteous. we work very hard at this. can we be more efficient? it's an unsatisfying answer. but we are not going to stop these attacks. charles: more and more americans when they hear you say that think maybe we should put a very long pause thing on this. perhaps a lot, lot longer. guys, let's leave it there. donald trump reiterating that he will be the quote law and order candidate. is this the law and order country that needs him to come to the rescue? 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than one suspect they will continue hunting for more. what we do know about the shooting as it happened around 5:50 local time. it is the olympic shopping mall close to the city. it would've been a peak time for people to be there. open until 8:00 in the evening. many people have been injured in this attack. they can tell us exactly how many because several people were taken to different hospitals around the city now as far as the motive is concerned police say they are still unclear on this. there is no immediate indication of islamic terrorism at this stage. there is no claim of any kind. police are working on this. it is a terrorist style attack. they are downplaying some reports that they claim to hurt and it's been reported in germany that there were some right wing extremist comments made the attacker we can't verify that at this stage. police are urging people to stay indoors while they continue to hunt for the suspect. they are facing the greatest crisis in at least a decade but of course it was only a a few days ago warned that they could be another attack in germany. right now the interior minister is returning to germany. germany has been on high alert for more than a year. there could be more of these attacks in the future. c1 thank you very much. watching the tragedy unfold serves as another reminder of how crucial police are during the terrible terrorist attack. now not only had they become more and more frequent but the targets seem to be getting softer and softer. he reinforces unwavering support and the officers that enforce our laws. join me to discuss the vital role of police in aspects like this. it is so worrisome because it is a bunch of people celebrating a major holiday on a promenade, people in a mall. we are seeing these targets become very soft and law enforcement seems to be left out in the cold. what i mean by that they say they are not getting the support they need and i also hear professionals like me say that the agencies that may have a great information don't share it and rely on them. see. >> they are not even properly reporting the information. in the storm of the anti- cop sentiment coupled with radical terrorist is not making for a good mixture for the safety of the american public. what should local law enforcement say because i think the spot light is shining. i think they are the most trusted group of people in our country right now. how do they seize on this moment. we need more support from these agencies that know things and won't share them with us. >> i think they are happening on the news. i think americans are the wakening of the sleeping giant. we will get more and more concerned and hopefully our politicians will hear what we are saying. the beginning of her remarks. we should support the police. we've have this discussion many times. now they are units searching for up to three suspects but the interior minister is somebody knew something was going on. the local law enforcement they have 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of these other countries never walking away no matter what you want to pay. whatever you want to pay. we are never walking away. a bad move on her part. c1 a lot of people are concerned who has a grandiose dream of reconstruction. estonia pays its 2%. italy doesn't so if somehow russia invaded estonia would we not protect them because italy is behind? >> it is a crazy proposition. i can tell you they are a major threat. i'm going to try to cut deals with some of these countries. there a look at this and say he may honor his pledges. it is a terrible thing for donald trump to be telegraphing other treaties it is a terrible thing. charles: here is a thinking earlier to talk about an integrated organization. maybe in addition to getting the money thing straight they should all look so readjust their mission to focus more on terror. >> i want to tell you i was in cleveland when donald trump addresses other matters having to deal with national security he brought it. he brought it in a real way. i think we need a real look at nato which of course was formed 57 years ago after the marshall plan to protect us against aggression. there is a pack and a promise. an attack on one is it attack against all. we are all in or we are not. only five of eight members are meeting their financial obligations. what they're doing is to say put up or shut up. if you need further evidence of the need for us to pull together united against terrorism and violence around the world you can't think of a better example. let's do it and let's do it now. they have they've a hundred billion dollars a bad debt. i think what they're saying is everybody has to do more. we need leadership. i think the concern about not honoring the treaty is valid. this is a negotiation about money. charles: in the meantime major markets met today. i have my market report for you. soa to make as a way to make money so stick around. ♪ it's here, but it's going by fast. the opportunity of the year is back: the 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like we are aiming for bigger and bigger body count each time. but we have noticed over the past year and a half is that terrorist organizations they changed their tactics. they are not going after the government in cities. -- entities. those are the places that they are now attacking. it does look today at where they attacked in germany. it is one that just like any other shopping mall here in the united states. what do we need to do in law enforcement. we need to really start focusing answer to our attention to be a little bit more proactive at some of the soft targets because unfortunately i don't think it will stop anytime soon. that is one of the things we need to do. i heard some of the guests earlier saying that the federal government they really need to share more information with local police. they are doing it to degree but not to the degree they need. they also need to do surveillance with certain people in this country. you look at this situation. we could've probably stopped or prevented that shooting if we were revealing him. everybody is looking for solutions. it will take an accommodation of initiatives to button and to some of these horrific events. also, the commuter train the airport in the nightclub. and a mall. these are the softest of soft targets. nobody watching the show may have to go through over the weekend. how do we not let at this impact us. first of all, isis is growing. it's getting worse is not getting better. i think to build confidence you have to change the policies. but we had been doing is not working. we've been trying to find the control center for five years. why can't we do that. i think it is the intelligence the way that we will find it into straight is by sending the best intel officers into syria which means boots on the ground. barack obama took it pledged early on in iowa that he would not put boots on the ground overseas. he said he was going to bring troops home he made a political promise without seeing the intelligence much of the same. you can't do that. if the lead it yourself. go with the overwhelming force and destroy them quick and fast and not mess around with this thing. it requires intelligence. thank you very much. it was a great day in the stock market and of course america in the throes of an election. i think they said it best yesterday. a peaceful hand up a hit up a power no matter who wins. thank you for watching. next is a lou dobbs show. lou: good evening everybody. at least nine people have been killed following what please describe as a possible terrorist attack and a popular shopping mall in munich. police are investigating whether one of the dead is the shooter. authorities at this point do not know the motive of the shooter nor do they know if there is more than one shooter. we will be bringing you the latest details. to have an impact on the politics.

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