Sally yates says she never asked for unmasking of trump or his associates and she never leaked and that she tried to warn that general Michael Flynn could quote be essential ly black mailed by the russians. Catherine herridge live in washington with the report. Lou, it was an intense threehour hearing that wrapped up about aho ago, with testimony about flynn and the potential for blackmail. Its critical that we get to information to the white house. Testifying before the committee, former obama white house, sally yates. The former acting attorney general testified she met twice in person and met with don mcgann because mike flynn did not discuss sanctions with russia, when the transcripts show the opposite. Not only that the russians knew this, but they likely had proof of this information and that created a compromise situation, a situation where the National Security advisors could essentially be black mailed by the russians. Yates who would later lose her job for failing to back the trump travel ban felt the situation was serious. We told them we were giving them all of this information so that they could take action. And pressed on whether president obama warned president elect trump not to hire flynn. President obama made known he wasnt a fan of general flynn which shouldnt come as a surprise and general flynn worked for president obama and was an outspoken critic of president obama. And flynn had the highest security clearance. If anybody, what should they do, why not if they were concerned. Another tweet how classified information got into the media. And the senate should ask the questions. Have either of you ever been an anonymous source in a news report about matters relating to mr. Trump, his associations. No, absolutely not. And both confirmed members of the trump team were unmasked in intelligence reports. Did either of you ever review classified documents in which mr. Trump, his associates or members of congress had been unmasked . Yes. You have . Can you give us details here in this no, i cant. Miss yates, have you . Yes, i have. And no, i cant give you details. The former director of National Intelligence was pressed on his conclusion there was no collusion between the administration and russia. I was not aware of the investigations. Resigned and in neither witness could explain why the white house blocked access to information or barred him from National Security discussions, lou. Lou catherine, thank you. What are we missing here . There is this long hearing. Right. The testimony and moments of tension and great interest, but overall, very little was produced today and certainly, i think, most taxpayers would say theyre disappointed at the productivity of the Senate Hearings . I think this is one of the big take aways, that this Russian Campaign to meddle in the democratic process in the u. S. Election has been highly successful because here we are six months later still arguing over what exactly happened on the kind of influence and the bottom line, the only reason that russia engages in this Unconventional Warfare and information campaigns because they cannot compete with the United States militarily or economically on a level Playing Field and that has been lost in the entire discussion, lou. Lou i think thats a terrific point. And im curious about your thoughts on this. I normally wouldnt ask you to step into the realm of opinion with, but would you project there will be a similar hearing about why the dnc was allowed to bar the fbi from investigating russian intrusion and the fbi accepted their willful rejection . I think on that particular issue, at least in terms of congressional testimony, that window is probably passed. I think for the time being. We hadhe oveight hearing on the senate side last week. We still have th due on the house side. But i think the focus will be primarily on the unmasking, whether it was done appropriately and at what level, whether it was done by the nsa or by the fbi as part of this Counter Intelligence investigation which was so secret they never shared it with the director of National Intelligence last year, which is pretty remarkable given thats what they were investigating. Lou extraordinary. Catherine, as always, thank you for your terrific reporting. Youre welcome. Catherine herridge from washington d. C. And joining me to discuss clappers admission and how the information got to the media. And the veteran of ten president ial campaigns, and republican strategist, ed rollins, Pulitzer Prize contributor, and Michael Goodwin. Let me start, michael, what did we learn and what the point . Well, look, i think the most important thing in all of this, lou, is this question of unmasking and leaking. It seemed to be a side line. The democrats dont want to know anything about that and dont want to ask questions about it, they simply want to try to focus on russia and trump. Theres nothing there, there anywhere so far. Lou how many times will a federal foreclosure or a former federal foreclosure have to say there is no evidence of anything between the Trump Organization and the russian government . Right and to yates beg thing that she told the white house that Michael Flynn could have been blackmailed. We know that because of leaks. Lou right. Somebody leaked that of the the only thing we learned today is clapper asked for unmasking, but he wouldnt say who was involved, because thats classified. So, this is a replay of the comey. They can say whatever they want, but as soon as they get into a thick question, its classified. These hearings, i think, are frustrating. Lou frustrating and also, sort of putso the lie the idea that we have oversight through congress and the senate over our intelligence agencies. Theyre being told to go stick it in the nicest and most pompous of ways, of course. If this continues in the process, its a total waste of time and i think the reality theres eight or ten people who have that kind of influence or have the influence to see the classified documents. Someone leaked it. I think if i was the judge that basically issued the fisa agreement i would ask for those individuals to come in, raise their right hand and basically tell me who said what, where, when and how under oath. I dont know if they legally could do that, but i would if they were acting on the power of the fisa judge and he ought to know who released. Lou what do you make of trump being told by obama not to hire flynn. Yeah. Well, and again, i thought the timing was interesting. Of course this story leaked to the New York Times on the day of the hearing seems to me to be an obvious attempt to steer the conversation toward russia and trump. And away from the leaks. Away from the unmasking. Its very much about continuing the proobama story line. The reality is flynn made some judgments after he was out of the military, and he took some clients he shouldnt have taken, he made some contacts. Thats all out there today and i think the reality, its not it doesnt prove anything other than the fact he made bad judgments and hes been resigned over it. But i think to say that, you know, all of this back and forth, he was cleared by one white house and not cleared by another or the president basically said dont he was dismissed as head of the intelligence of the military because he wasnt a good manager. That had nothing to do with whether he was a source of bad information, so, i think to a certain extent, im not defending the bad judgment, just defending you cant trash his pa past. Lou well, bloomberg reporting that washington loves and apologize for the coughing fit that just captured me. Is it something we said . It was something that you said. Its classified . Which of you the said what and got the reaction. That market loves mcmaster, but trump doesnt. This was like more fake news or does it look like inside into a potential problem . I will say at the outset, mcmaster has never been a man who looked to me, even in the presence of the president , like he was being ordered. It was always, it looked like he was be beseeched the way he sort of received the president. Your thought, ed . My thought is mcmasters who has an extraordinary military record and wellregarded wrote a book called dereletion of duty, the defense, the state, the cia, make sure that the president is getting all of the annals. I think he fixed the system what, but he may have personality conflicts . I think thats right. And the article on bloomberg, lays out some examples of where the president thought mcmaster was pushing him into a corner, not giving him options and not letting him ask questions about the briefing. Lou personnel decisions and choices and mcmaster being a little hauty at least in the reporting of blake, who is a terrific reporter, being hauty as what thought of as his permissions of the president . The president always reserves the right to reject the ideas and to demand other ideas to come forward instead. It seemed according to the reporting mcmasters tried to put trump into the corner and that he only had one option. He said something on Chris Wallaces show, he said the president asked me. I thought, no, the president , the commanderinchief ordered you. He needs to acknowledge that. He needs to get back in his head that hes an advisor and he has a very important job. Lou if youre sitting in the white house. Hes an advisor. Lou and you dont have the sense to understand where you are and who youre working for, get him the hellout. I think at this point, hopefully he can stay for a while and hopefully he can get his profile down and do what he needs to do. Lou yeah, i was just sending the logic a bit. Thank you both as always, great to see you, my friends. Were coming right back, much more straight ahead. Stay with us. Dozens of conservative groups urging President Trump to ditch the Paris Agreement. Were going to cancel the paris climate agreement and stop all payments of the United States tax dollars to u. N. Global warming programs. But his daughter ivanka may have a lot to say about whether the president is running hot or cold on the Paris Agreement. We take it up with governor Mike Huckabee next here. And president obama making an almost pathetic desperate plea to lawmakers to help save his failing, dying, obamacare program. Well take up obamas post president ial behavior here next. Well be right back. Stay with us. Dear predictable, theres no other way to say this. Its over. Ive found a permanent escape from monotony. Together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, ouhearts racing as one. 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Joining me now to discuss the trump agenda, the latest on repeal and replacement of obamacare and much more, former president ial candidate himself, governor of arkansas, Mike Huckabee. Great to have you here. Thank you, lou, great being here. Lou i want to start with, if we may, this hearing today. It just keeps producing nothing. And yet, this thing goes ones trumprussian allegations and theres only one point of contact as best i can tell and thats between the dnc and its servers and the russians. The most important thing, back off at look at 30,000 feet. We know that russia is a bad actor, we know theyre not acting in the best interest of the United States. So we dont have to have a hearing for that. Here is what we need a hearing, who the heck in the u. S. Government broke the law by leaking this information and why. Now, that worries me because our people have sworn an allegiance that theyre going to obey the law. Somebody didnt, lou, and thats the biggest question we need to get the answer to. Lou and some other questions, who in the Obama Administration who gave the order to surveil the Trump Transition Team and it turns out, his campaign team, and who knows what else and how long in the white house itself . These are estions that are live and obviously important, and the Left Wing National Media cant bring itself quite to look seriously and study and research and investigate. Well, these are grenades that the pins have been pulled out of. Its simply at this point, its a matter of whether or not somebody is going to get to the bottom of it and find out who the heck is behind this. Lou let me ask a question, should not the trump presidency, the administration be finding this out . I know it may to some seem, well, unseemly, but its a National Security issue amongst other things, and a matter of law. Shouldnt they be holding the hearings and carrying out the investigations to find out who did this to them . Absolutely, they should and at some point, lets hope that we find out who is behind it and that there is a full accountability held. I dont think the hearings today produced a lot, other than some posturing and everybody got to posture and got tv time, but as far as providing significant answers, thats not going to come until they go into a closed session and they can do the classified stuff, although, i have to be honest, i heard ed and mike, Michael Goodwin both say and i agree with them, that thats a convenient excuse when you dont want to answer a question, i cant talk about that, its classified. Well, you know, cry me a river because at some point you better answer some questions. Clapper, comey and sally yates never looked so comfortable before congress as when they were saying, thats classified and the citizens like you and me, we have to wait our turn, i guess. I want to turn to the trump agenda, this president moving forward now. Hes gotten apparently the cooperation of the house leadership. Now, what happens with the Senate Leadership . Its going to be a totally different ball game. In the legislative process its always been said by the house membe members, the democrats are our opponents, but the senate is our enemy and thats pretty accurate in every legislative body. You have the Opposition Party and theyre the opponts, but that other body of people, theyre the enemy and thats the way it works. So theres going to be an incredible clash of ideas, but thats what this process is supposed to be. For those who are frustrated by it, i would say, just go back and remember, the founders put it in this way so that things didnt happen as quickly as obamacare did, that was a total collapse, and failure. Lou governor, as always, great to see you. Thanks, lou, great to be with you. Lou thanks for being here. Be sure to vote in our poll tonight. 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I hope that current members of congress recall that it does require some courage to champion the vulnerable and the sick and the infirm. Lou have you noticed rested up and vacay as he is, the president doesnt seem to be speaking any faster than he did. His determined meddling is the subject of my commentary and i promise to be gentle. The prime real estate in the swamp that desperately needs draining. Well have that stunning story next. Stay with us. The Trump Administration today defending its revised extreme vetting order before the 4th sirCircuit Court of appeals. The case is being heard are you ready for this, how it mit go, heard by 13 of the courts judges. Ten were appointed by democrats. Acting solicitor general jeffrey wall arguing the president s authority over immigration policy carries more weight than compromise during a political campaign. 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