Theres nothing thats occurred in the last 24 hours that caused the United States government to change our assessment of north koreas technical and military capabilities. But even if the North Koreans did not explode a Hydrogen Bomb, there is no doubt that kim jonguns unpredictable regime did carry out a highly provocative nuclear test. Is there any radioactive fallout . Why dont we know if the koreans exploded an hbomb that is exponentially more powerful than fisson bombs . And also we look at the republican candidates battling it out on the campaign trail now. And theyre in a bruising round of tough talk and more than a few insults. Rubio after cruz, kasich after everyone. Christie after rubio, fiorina after them all, donald trump taking aim at rival ted cruz, hes concerned and concerned deep by will cruzs citizenship, suggesting cruzs roots may be a problem if he were to win the republican president ial f nomination. Its a problem for him and for the republicans lets assume he got a nomination. The democrats bring suit. The suit takes two, three years to solve. How do you run . Isnt that nice to see one candidate concerned about the problems of another . Even if helping to create some of those problems. Its getting tough out there, like i said. Former Reagan White House political director ed rollins is the guy to help us sort it out. The standoff in oregon over federal government abuse of power and the rights of ranchers has stretched into the fifth day. The local sheriff says the Anti Government activists who took over a federal wildlife refuge near burns, oregon may face charges when the seize is over. One protester says he is ready to die free rather than going to prison . I will be talking with republican congressman greg walden of oregon who says the protests have gone too far but he hears from the farmers and the community, and he says the government has gone too far for far too long. Joining me is major bob scales and k. T. Mcfarland. Let me start with the test. Why dont we know whether or not the north caroliincom north kora Hydrogen Bomb or do we know and were not saying . When they bury a nuclear weapon, they test them deep under ground, they do it because they want to disguise what the test results are. They are called radiation sniffer aircraft above it. They dont detect plutonium or fallout. Historically what has happened youre scaring me, you know that. Yeah. As sophisticated as we are right now, with all the imaging, and sensing we may not know. The devices that we have, and 250 miles in space bob, arent we a little more i cant believe were not more sophisticated than that . We are, lou. In fact, my sources tell me it came in at about 8 to the kiloto kilotons, it wasnt a hydrogen weapon it was a tridian booster test. But it also, my sources tell me boost it . Yeah. Boost it. Theres nothing funny about these bombs, but it im sorry to interrupt. My sources tell me it was ended in a fizzle. It wasnt as big as they hoped. Then again it was still a nuclear weapon. What we look for next time in a month or two is them testing a missile. This missile which has a range of 4,000 and 6,000 miles, capable of reaching hawaii and alaska, this is sort of their, you know,heir double whammy to essentially extort the west, to shake down the United States. But weve seen this since bill clinton. Of course. Were no more sophisticated by the way, the North Koreans have to be watching what president obama has done with the iranians saying i think we can extort this guy. They do it. The North Koreans have a crisis that they manufacture every january, february, march, theyre running out of food. They have a provocative action, the word says dont do that. They get bought off. They stop the provocative action, they get the goodies they want. And the cycle starts six months later. Lets turn to china, which is not influencing or constraining north korea and its experiments with at least it appears this time fision instead of fusion, and their alliance with russia, there seems to be no Strategic Response on the part of the United States government either military, national security. The president doesnt address the issue. All we have left now is to play defense. Theres very little you can do with this with these guys. China wont do anything. They have a Gross National product of 16 billion, 4 of which goes to defense. What type of sanctions are you going impose on that . Im not suggesting sanctions, at least a discussion. Consideration by the best strategic minds, the scholars in this country, geopolitical experts by what is and seems to be an obvious looming serious geopolitical partnership between china and russia and they can lead us out amongst other places, afghanistan and syria, and this president seems to be playing around. We will get push around for the next year where every country decides this is their moment to do something. What we really need to do is immediately start a Missile Defense program. President reagan started one in 1983, successive president s cut it back. As we look at north korea, iran with Nuclear Weapons and missiles that can hit the United States, the only thing we can do is Missile Defense. Bob scales, you get the last word. I think k. T. Is right. You cant play offense anymore. You have to play defense. Unfortunately this administration has cut back ballistic Missile Defense to much in the last seven years that we got to restart our defensive Missile Program otherwise were vulnerable. Major general bob scales, k. T. Mcfarland, thank you both. Its about the constitution and freedom itself. Last night we told but this congressmans emotional appeal on the floor of the house of representatives. We have a real problem in americ america. Congressman greg walden of oregon joins us tonight to talk about a conflict almost as old as the country itself. He joins us next. If youthen youll know howouth, uncomfortable it can be. But did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath . Well, there is biotene, specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants. Biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. Biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. Congressman greg walden, his district includes the wildlife refuge currently occupied by a group of protesters. Congressman walden serves on the energy committee. Congressman, great to have you here. I know these are difficult times for you, for the folks they are. In the county, the hammond family. I want to say to you, what you said last night on the floor of the house, in my opinion, did more to set the record straight on the conflicts that are there. And how those the history of those conflicts between the government, government management agencies like the bureau of reclamation, bureau of Land Management, interior department and ranchers. I want to salute you for that ive been critical of the congressional delegation, the senators of oregon for not stopping this deal. You gave all of us some hope that reason and some considerable power will be brought to bear here on behalf of the hammond family. Thank you, lou. If people want the full text they can go to your website or wherever and see the comments. I intended to give a fiveminute speech. 20 years of standing up for these people in Eastern Oregon flooded over me, and i went almost a half hour. Right. What i was trying to say is was a terrific half hour, i will say that, too. What the protesters how theyve gone about this theyve gone over the line. They really have. But what people what theyve done is allow this issue to get to the national and international level, where we can finally have a discussion about the overarching, overreaching, often arrogant federal government, mismanagement, lack of management of these federal lands where we have these enormous fires and everything. Let me boil down some of what youre saying to a few words. Amanda marshall, u. S. Attorney, shes gone. Shes the one who came back demanding that the Appellate Court overturn the sentences of both dwight and steve hammond. Right. She is i think the woman should be investigated. I think she should be prosecuted for what she did to two american citizens. I will say further that the Prosecution Team should also in my opinion be investigated. This is such a lack of ethics. The trial judge, as you know, stood up and said three months and one year, you could tell from reading at least i could from reading the transcript, he thought that was extraordinarily punitive. Then for the Appellate Court to come back and slam people who are doing burns on their land and the federal land that they had grazing rights to is obscene. Just to put it in perspective for viewers, carney county, oregon, population 7,000, one person for every 1. 4 square miles, it is a land mass larger than the entire state of maryland. This is high desert plateau. Very, very few people out there. It wasnt like they were lighting a sage brush fire going up ravines in los angeles and destroying homes. The judge said had that been the case, a fiveyear minimum sense would have made sense. In this case he said it was eighth amendment violation, it was wrong. We need to change the statute. Need to change the statute, and this president and you know i got to be honest with you, i cant imagine this president giving enough of a damn to do the right thing. The right thing is not what happens in this white house. Wait, though. Lou, i want to say youre right in terms of the pardon, the clemency, though we should appeal for relief, did he have this ability. In the neighboring county, same type of folks, same type of ranching, culture, lifestyle, he is threatening were told they wont be open about it to declare a new National Monument and lock up 2. 5 million acres without public involvement. He could help dampen this down by saying i wont do that. I promise you i wont, and not do it. Congressman this president i have to say to you were in the final hours of this presidency. This man is showing every day what he is and what he is not what he is not is a compassionate and reasonable person who would care about the rights of those two ranchers. I cant imagine him giving a whip. Heres the other thing his agencies could do. In order for the ranches to survive, they own 6,000 acres, the hammond ranch. The hammond family. Because this is so sparse country, its not the lush green high desert. High desert plateau. They lease other ground from the federal government and they pay for it. Those leases need to be reinstated so that susie hammond, the wife of Dwight Hammond who is in her 70s, alone on a ranch, at least her husband and son are gone now, can continue to ranch and survive. She does not need the extra punishment of having the grazing leases taken away as well. Theres no reason for that. Heres what should happen, in my opinion. You and the rest of the congressional delegation ought to be on the phone to the u. S. Attorneys office in oregon, you should be interceding, intervening in this case, and anyone who says its a criminal case and thats inappropriate is a damn fool. The reality here is these are two men in jail, its every minute they spend in jail is an injustice. Its one that should not be tolerated in this country. Lou, im not an attorney, i was journalism major. Heres the problem this has already been appeal to the ninth circuit and to the u. S. Supreme court who refused to take it. The ninth circuit said you have to impose the statutory five years. Theyre damned fools. If youre an attorney or not, congressman or senator, its time for people to talk straight. Theyre damned fools, they dont care about two american citizens. Its got to stop, its got to stop soon. Its so outrageous. Obviously outrageous. The other piece of this is i talked about this in my speech. In this county in 2000, bill clinton threatened a monument. We said, stop, well write legislation, we did. And it worked. Congressman, i cant go for a while. What congressman walden was about to tell you is the bureau of Land Management and other agencies tried to screw up everyone in his district. He stopped it. At least most of it thank you, congressman. Well take it up later. Up next a few thoughts on the greatest gun salesman whoever lived, at least in this country. Doorbell. Theyre going to lose this challenge. Kermit, my man. You ready to fan out . 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Mr. Obama announcing executive action against guns with fanfare today, exploiting willing supporters, surrounding himself with the family members of some killed in shootings, all of them arranged as political props for a president who has become incapable of reason and persuasion on seemingly every issue and who cant build National Consensus on difficult and controversial matters and who instead declares unilateral fiats that are undemocratic of the peoples will and all the while he plays the part of a tenhorn dictator. The president allowed tears to roll down his cheek when talking about newtown and barely mentioning the city of chicago, his hometown. The murder capital of the country year in and year out. This just might be a first for him to mention chicago. Certainly with a tear rolling down his cheek. The president wiped away his tears long enough to slam critics who say his latest fiat is an assault on constitutional rights. No matter how many times people try to twist my records around, i taught constitutional law. I know a little about this. I also believe we can find ways to reduce gun violence consistent with the Second Amendment. The gun lobby may be Holding Congress hostage now, they cant hold america hostage. Thats not only pathetic rhetoric, devoid of meaning, america is hostage to a lame duck president. With his latest fiat on guns, i believe president obama is making criminals out of thousands of americans who sell guns by his decree to expand background checks. Through such action, he has become the greatest gun salesman in the history of this country since he took office, the shares of smith wesson and ruger are up more than you are ready for this . Have risen more than 900 . To put that in perspective, the s p 500 gained about 140 over the same time period. In 2015, the fbi conducted a Record Number of background checks on gun sales. More than 23 million. 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