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>> what i said in response this morning was give meithin 15 days t opetional specifics of ho that woul wo and then i believe we shod review that policywithin 45 das. >> president obama just hours later and for the cond day in a row claim tat travel bans and quarantineswill not hel stop the spread of ebola. while appearing with hlth re works who had been exposed ebola and who are still within the 21-day monitoring period. >> we may continue to see individual cases in america in the weeks and months ahead, bee that'she naturef today' rld. we can't rmetally seal rsels of and that' true whher or not you adopt a travel n, wtherr no you adopt a quaine. the nature of diseases. >> his statent comes after press secretary josh earnest instructednother stement of twisted and tortured logico claim that the mitary quarantine reflec a scientific approachhile a civilian quartine in the minds of this administration would not. also tonight, american relation with israel could be strained beyond repair ter the "atlantic" mazine quoted a white house official referring to prime minister benjamin netanyahu as chicken excremen while calling him a coward. frankl he was hiding hind anonymity. the state department and the white house day claiming the "atlantic" report was inacrate but would not elaborate on ether they kw the identity of theeake or would pursue so for of accountabili. and the "washington st" reportg the white house computer network has been breached hackers working for the russian government. the white house tried to nimize the event andhe threat, claiming these types of security breaches happen at 16 pennsylvania avenue daily. that's reassuring, don't you think? we'lhave a full report straight aad here. >>only one pient still being treated for ebola inside the united states, a new york docto whos coming unnder increasin rutiny after reports that he lied to police abo his travels after rerning from west rica. dr. craig spencer reportedly told officia he had isolated himself in his new rk tment and he dn't admit he had ridden t subways, dined out, went bowling, until police oked a his met card and credit c. ficials in maine sti ting to figure out what to do about the nurse just back fromt afca who doe'tave ebola symptoms b has beenrdered to self-qrantine in her home til the vi 21ay cubati period is over. kaci hicko sa if tat licy is not changed byomorrow, she will defy it. maine health commisoner mary mayhew momen ago sid in a quote, lac of leaderip at the federal vel r keepin hiox quarantined. >> add californians to t list of what is 11 states thathave enacted tighter quarantine policiesha the obama nistration. ovseas, 42 soldiers are nw quarantined in italy after returning from west africa. joininus now i ongressman randy forb, member of the house armed s servic and judiciary committees. ngressn, your action, if you would, to the pentagonon spokesman when askedesrd if cretar hagel supported t ar quarantine policssued by general odierno. take a listen, if you wod. >> the secrery supports the cision that wasade fo general williams and his team. he's not gng to oppose at this time the dision made by army leadership for allsoldiers. >> that's a seemily slap at the joint chiefs before implemting h recommendation, congressman. yo reaction t? >> ll, as you knknow, i will iticize the secretary of defense when i think it's appropriate, but in this partular situation, thi he's doing t right thing to follow the remmendatis of his military officers r couple reasons. one, i think it's important that we listen to t militarydvice that he's been given, unlike what the esident's been doing. but the sond thing is i think the protectionand safety of the troops has to be foremost for him and in front of every decisi he makes. i alsoon't disapprove of him relooking this policy 45 days down the road if the military officerscome back and say they nt to revise it but itust shows how very concerned these military lers are about the ebola virus. >> they're coerned, but th iteration of thatxpression of concern. thmilitary sayinghere wl be a ten-day quarantine. i think you know on this broadcast i said very clearly, this outrageous, whenor health oanization calls for a 42-day quarantine and physicians say 21, andthe miitary's itial reaction or at the orrs of ecivilian leership said ten days. this has migrated to this point d as you sai as we have said here, why in the worldould not the concern about the wellbein of our tops always b foremost in the minf botothparties, the white house, the congress, the pentagon? >>well,lou, it should be. i ink on of thehis that you point up aolutely corrtly is the absence of an overall strategy to deal with the eola virus overall,us like we have see an absence of sttegy that this administration h had in dealing wi foreign licy or other destic concerns that we've had since they have en in office. >> and congssman, as we look at what is happening now with another thousand troop going to west africa, a time when this admistrati is cutting, slashing ourilitary and doing so with,t seems, almost not rectance and rbrance, why in the worl shouldthe american people not be outraged hat is happening? >> wel lou, i don kw why they're not outragedecause ouaged becse as yoand i have talkedut fore, t cuts this administration has placed upon the military has put us in incrediy dficult situatns in defending the country oundglobe. t evertime there is somethinthat needs t done, thisinistrion looks to the military and says do it. and i think wha you're ing now i the american people, our allies across the globe, they don't have very much condence in this administration either that they're tell them the truth, they' telling them what's accurat or that t have a strate for dealingwith thesissues. whether it's isis or whether it's ebola or whether it's any of the other major things that the united states is confronting acrosshe globe. >1 states now, most recently californ, iningin wh quantine standards and protocs ofheir o far mre stringent than that of the obama administration a the cdc. the penton having to assert itself and i want to just say out lou my congratulations to the chaman of e jointhiefs of staff, martin dempsey, the genel,tanding up and sing this is the way it's goingto be, general odierno as well. i men, this is a direct confct betwe the pentagon and the civilian leadership, not thpresidenhimsel how does it resoe? >> well, lou, ink a couple of things. first of all,'m glad as you mentioned that the chairman is speang up and that the military leership is exprsing their concern. but i havelso calle for congress, i thk we should have been back in session. i thk we can't wait on this. i think when you have an administrationhat fails to develop sategies like tht falls on congrs to do it. i'm just hoping we will come back in soer ratherhanater so that we can help create the strategy. i'm not confidente're going to see it fmhe administraon but certai am gratef that the military leadership is steppingto the plate and saying they're going to protect their troops wh isoth of us agree, isthe fir fundamental obgation that th have. >>congressman, thank you so ch, as always, for bein wiwith us. appreciate it. >> thanyou, lou electi day fi days away and manyf the president's biggest supporters don' want to e him, don't want toear from him. and a former aide predicts midterm disaster for the democrats. an unprecedented pgram that pars withniversities across the state r better access to talt, cutting edge research, and statof the art filities. and you pay no taxes for teyears. from bioch in brooklyn to next gen energy in binghamton, and statof the art filities. and you pay no taxes mufturingn buffalo... artuny has new businesses popping up across the state. see how startup-ny can hel your business growat srtup.v how in argentina,rass change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south aic and the aerospace indust in u.s.? 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>> i don't thinknk it's accidenl at all. i think they are going too out of their way to enncourage as ma peoplespoible to vote and if that' the law, wherever e lawsare, whatev wsare in each state, those a what thlaws are, they are going to encourage evybod to vote that legallcan vote. >> do you think that as a matter ofethics, morality, they are rmitted to vote >> i don't thinthey are encoaging any too illegally. look -- >> i thought you said they d get with i they ghto vote. >> no. i'm saying that if you don't need to brg your i.d.o the poing place -- >> yh. >> -- you should go vote. >> i got it. if you have to bring your i.d.you shouldn't. is that right? >> exactlyly. >> so what i said was rig. ifif you can g away wth it, go vote. >> i'm surure there are a lotof conspiracy theorists in the world that believehat. >> no, no, no. the "washington post" a conspiracytheorist? >> tre hen't been documented cases of this happening anywhere in thenited stes. u know, i understand this is the big conspiracy tatbama stole ohio. okay. it didt happen. but we can go there. >> you raised the qution tha i didn't. i'm not much fus on the rear view mirror. i'm more worried about what's gointo happen tudaand maybe 2016 as well. th ebola crisis. kare secrary hage basicly siding with his generals but if desey,eneral dempsey and general odino don't step up, our guys over in ebola-stricken nations in west africa wouldn't be having a quaraine. >>h. yoknow, the rl problem here is that there are soany mixed messages coming out of so many differengovernmental agencies, whether it's the military, the cdc, the gvernors of new york and new jersey. no one is on the same page. and they've had a number of weeks i think to get teir act together. understand tha don't kw everhing tre is to kow about ebola and how it mig be olng, but we do know a few things about how it's transmitd and it seems reasonable that a 21- quarantine for people comg into the united states from areas of aica that are rticularlynfected seems reasable. t when you have the military disagreeing with t cdc and y can't get anyone fro the administration the e same ge -- >>nd t wte house. >> and the white house can't seem to pull peop together into t same room and tell them sily let's allet on the same page for t confidence of the erican people, i think this i the real danger. >> joe, yo thoughts. is thi a big deal tt'going to last? is this a long-lasting rupture between the civilian leadership and the military learship? >> no. i st don't think this is going to be, over time this will amounto didisagreement that didn't mter. lot of the fears that people have are irrational in regards to eba. it would be much difrent if thisere airborne or something else. lookthere'snothing -- the esident of th united states cannot order governors to do things. >> we just did he just did. >> he didn't order -- he can't der, if christie wants do a 21-d thing, he can. >> he steere away andrew cuomo from his position christie backed off. 11 states nowelling the president that we're stl a constitutional rublic and still have federist syste of governmt with states' rits. right. >> joe, aren't you concerned at all? you say that t concerns, the fears are irratiol. maybe th're irratial but i don't think 's irrational to say why is it that a nurse in the united states, in a u.s. hospital, contracts ebol but a nurs acting and helping people surroued withbolan st africa who we would assume is not in the same kind o coitio as the u.s. nurs why doesn' she get it? ose questions aren't irrational. >> i apologizeze, we'll have to take that as a rhetorial question bause we are out of time. great toave you bo withus. we will coinue the conversati got a dea >> thanks, lou. >> thas. up next, the white house and thee state department under fire for aerogatory a lewd depiction of israeli prime mist benjamin tanyahu. >> so are there thos in th administrationho believe that this is an accurate depiction o acrate description of prim minister nanyahu? >> we are going to getet the answer to at pressing question here nex stay with us. from fhion retailers sportingood stores, we provide financing solutions for all sorts ofusinses. banking. loyty. analytics. synchrony financial. engageitus. pehmerga fighters headed tos the town of koni in an effort toelp fellow kurds fend the city of kobani against the islamic state. joing us, rtired four star army general,ormerice chi of staff, general ja keen, chairman of the institute for the studyf war. x news mitary analyst. your reactio if ma to secretary hagel the lo term threat from the islamic sta, cocontrast if youu wil this. isil extremism radicalism, terrorism is a threat to every state, to every society. unfortunately, i seethese things ctinuing totay out there, jim. i think we're in r a longer term challenge here than maybe any of us would hope. >> as you know, genera i shudder when hearolks talking out a lr battle than we anticipate. your thoughts about wt the seetary id? >> yeah. we fundamental to the plan is we do not want tout brigade combateams on the grod. i would agre with that judgment as well. buif that's what you wanto avoid,then you, depending on indigenous forces, local foes inq and syria, and if that's thcase, why aree not a in helpg them? helping them with arms, pment, advisors, training, air ground controllers, that is the answer ihink we're kicng this downn to the next administtion, it seems to me. i hate to be th cynil but thing makes any sense. we should be all in helping those local forces and we're not. just have teams that are out with 12 brigades and they can't goorward with the ad battalions wn they get in fight. makes no sense. >> and the generalsight now in the ntagon, earlier in this broadcast i gave general dempsey great credit foraying tho troops cing back from west africa are gng to get 21 days, not ten, and they will not b -- anyway, secretar efense hagel made it ptty clear he lt thas a little ufair t behat straightforward aout a pocy in defense of the troo. your tugs? >> oh, i aolutely agr. this is about protecting th soldiers' falies, protecting their fellow teammates whore back ates they are retuing to. it is absolutely a must to d something like that. i thk ithould be realistically a national pocy, not just the miitary's policy, e health care professionals that a returning as well. >> and mllns of amerins, just about % of americans say they are with you on that. ruia. nato reporti unusual,nual tests, ifyou will, spikein russn flights that they have been forcedo scramble jet fighters to meet. what's behind that, in your jume? >> i thi this is going to continue. this is putin aggravating to. i absolutel believe that a some int, will test nato's resoe wi one of the countries thatborders ruia, most likely astonia th has someussian population where he can crtephony civ unrest like he di in ukrai andbegin to aid that civil unrest. 've go have a presce there to stop that from happenin >> at thi point, your feeli about where we stand geopolitically wit iran,ith chin and russia moving to act in concert if not to budn outright alance against ropean and american interests. >> well, thosehree countries, russia, iran, china, allee i believe eopolitil opportunity which what they believe fundamentally, just watchi actions, not listening to rhetoric, they are too practical for that, and theyee t united states disengagingrom the worl also they see the unitedtas abluly slicing and gutting s military capability, taking ground force back to pre-world war ii airpower bac to 1950, makes no sense to nybody but they see thatppening, theyee thiss opportuty therefore, they ar more aggresve, they are more assertivand they are going to contin to move in that direction, aggrate the united states >> general, anks r bng here. >> always good being here, lou. st llenlsave had a belly full of thean they once helped send to the white house t once but ice. therchitect of george w. bush's t presidential campaign victories, karl rove, on the shifting electoral fors and the kely outcome. (vo) wching. waiti right place meetritime.or thate nnouncer) at scottrade, we share your passion for trading. that'shy we gi you the ee, with innative charting and trading featuresplus powerful mobe apps so you're always connected, wherever you are. beuse at sttrade, ourpassion t. the so-called millenials turning the democratic rt in a new harvard institute of politics poll, astounding numbers, really. 51% of 18 to 29 year ods now prefer a repuican-led congress. 47% in favor of a democric congress. that is a ssive sht in favor of publics since 2010 when 55% of menia prefred a democratically led congress. on 43% favored republicans. here now to give us his insight into these midterms now only five days away and eir likely results, former deputy chief of staff to president george w. sh, karl rove, fox news contributo karl, good to have you with us. en worse for docra this harvarpoll, for the first time ever, re mlenials are identifying with conservatives instead of liberals. it's notot much, it's35% to 3 but an astounding shift. doeshis sugge disaster for democrats next tuesday? >> well,first of all, the nuer that you cited a t benning g ismong thosehoay they are definitely going t vote. now,he number is better r democrats ong all millenials and sowe really don't know, you ow, the e goingto be people w sw up ne tuesday who didn'tave any plan to vote and there are going to be people who todasay i'm definitely going to get to vote who are gog to find themlves not showing up. but look, this is bad news for democrats. look inside the ll. thpresident's job approval on handling the economy, is in the 30s. his dipprol is 60%. his disappral on handling heth care is 59%. on haning the deficit, 65% disapproval on foreign policy, 60%. migrati, 61%. in ft, if you look iide the pollhispanic millenials are really turned off on the ident becae they see faed pmises getting immigratioreform handled in a timely fashion. so there's an unenthusiast youthful base for the democratic party. the queson is how much are they goi to be a to generateurno among some of emillenials b eitr targeted appeals on the basis race, for examp, the yog blac, or h much are they ing to be able t get a turnout by mechanal means, namely a superior ound gamee we don't knothat. but this is another headache for the democrats they don't need they approach the midtes. >> and as they approach the midterms, everyone now wanting to know who's going to win this thing. karl rov you are hre to tell us exacy who wins where and by how much. well, ook, let's divide em between democrat-held seats and publican-held seat there are ten democc hd seats day that are up for grab ree of them are settled. th republicans are goi to win montana, south dakota and west virginia ey lead in the reallea politicsverage byby dble digits. weill take those three seats. there are three other seats where the rpublicans ad by outside the margin of error. kansas, five points. louisiana, 4.5. and lodo right on the edge of the margi of error at 3 i think we te the f two that will take unt december to settle louisiana becau of theirunoff provision. i fe pretty good abo keeping cory gardner that wou givthe republicans six seats and controof the senate. therare two other rac that they lead in. alas, 2.2 andiowa, 2%. they took those, it would give themeight seats. there are two ats where republicans are trailing but with moentum. north carolina, ailingy o point. the are now polls owing h ahead. and nehampshire where scott brown has cut jean shaheen's lead down to5.2 and has a lot of momentu going into the electi. and the lead in another ll. leads in the new england college poll. the rpublicans are dending ree seat kentucky, whe mitch connell appears on his way re-election. nsas where senator pat roberts is traing but i think isoing to win. and georgia, where the last four polls now veavid perdue ahead although again, it likely to go to runf. there's aerrian candidate anthat ste rres50% plus one other vote. we are likely to have jay 6 runoff in grgia. election night, i thin the republicans are poised to take 51, or 5 seats. all right. karl rove, as always, insightful. thanks for givg sme guance through all of this. weppreciate it. good to see you. >> gto seeyou.uesday. going be a late night and it'soing tbe close but everybody ought to tune in and watch. >> it will be a hoot all right. thanks a lot. as we say in texas. upnext, familiar families. they want to get ected. guman group is growi. getting in a groove. gr is gratifyi goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just tald to u. they got expert advise, ecial discounts, netechlogies. they'll only show u lwhen you print a label and 's matic. we save tti? and money. money? time a money. awesom awese! awesome! ese! awesome! 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>> i think he's still assessing it. >> do you think it'sore than 50%,ess than 50%? >> i think it's more than likely that he's ving this serious thought. >> tha will run? >> that he will run. if you had asked me a few years ck, i would ve said lss likely. >> so the family will b behind m 100%? >> the family will be behi him 100% if he decides to do it.t. >> you got to excited. 100%. you got to be excited w when yo hear that even more bush will be suorting ano bush, huh? perhapeven more excited george pston bush'semarks about his father which makes him the fourth bush family mmber to endorse jeb as a candidate. already up to four family memembers. now, that's impressive, you ve to agree. honestly, i'm every bi as excited abt the prospt of another bush presidency as i am about the possibility of ather clton presincy. jeb's got a l ofork too like figuring out where he really stands on amnesty f illegal immigrants, tesnd how to sell -- to folks. hillary clinn has even more >> don't let anybodon't l anybody tell ythat, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs >> we came out of the whi house not on dead bre but in de. we had no mon when we got there and we struggled to, y know, pie together the resources for moges for hous, for chelsea's education. it wasot easy. >> wel god bless america, ty madet through. 315 llion americans andwo families think it makes sense r theidna to be in perpetual possession of the white house, rit? but democracy versu dynast is a tough, sometimes bitter battle. the whole point if you'll recal of the foundg of ts coury wato asse that our government wasn't run li a family business, that royal family dl, led then by a feow called george, george iii and bmy count, g.p., the son of jeb, would george iii if hee to make ito the white house himsf. well, he would be the fourth bush but the third geo but look what's happening i georgia. whoops, there's thatame agai georgia. democrats there are trying to put not one, but two members of elite polical families in higher offic the grandson of former president jimmy carter runninfor governor and t daughter of longime senator sam nunn wants to fill wh was ce h father's seat. he mayay even ha his ne on t, right? n't that great? it's great. we may actuly double the pool of dna from which future presidentsight be drawn. ain't america grand? coming up herenex the ebola batthaking up the nation's military. it's the commander in chief versus the pentagon on how to treat our serve members when they return frombola-stricken nations. we t t t t wanto know how hard it can be.. ...to breathe th copd? 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>> i tnk we have a long tradition in the u. miliry of o commanders making the rit desis about the care, the feeding and th sanitation and heah of our troops. on this on i firmly onn the si ofniform milita. i think they are making the righcall, u. >>admiral, let's turn to other fficult calls and let's begin with the ilamic sta which now, it pears, that the air strike campaign is maki a differen. weave en the islamic stat have to fallbackfrom several towns now. how do you judge the progress and is this, do you believe, a sustainabldin? >> i think the ai trikesu, are only the beginning we've got to g turkeynto the game. they've got the second largest standing army in nato thiss on their border. they need ultimately to be involved against the islamic ste. we need to getato itself involved becse t u.s. shldn't have to carry this by ourselves. number three, we've got to get armsn the hds of the pemerg those troops in the northnhe kurdish partf iraq. they arehe bt fighter on the field on our sidend we have to coinue to revitalize the iraqi secuty forces. that will take time. we cano all those things but it is encouraging, we are seeing some results in effect from this air campai. t we can't bankonthis. we're not going to winthis thing fromhe air. we're going eed troops on the ground. >>nd just as progress seems to athand in the fight against th islamic state, now reports th t are using surface-toir missiles against our apache atck helicopters. how much peril and how effective are their coununtermeasures liky to be? >> i'm worried about it, lou. at the moment, only have abt a half doze u.s. helicoers involved in this figh but think over time, at's going to be an area wre we can putorce to realffect on the battlefield. the fact tt we're seeing the islamic state with these hand-hd missiles, very ncerning. again, it eaks to the need for trpsn the ground and it's not just the helicopters. ultimately these are very dangerous for transport aircraft as tey amoving troops around the field. so we' got toe concerned about this. we ought tlook for the sourc of those weapons, try anut them o, and weht to be thinking corently aboutow we caget bots o the groun not on peshmerga, not only iraqi security forces but i think u.s. special forces ca help kno down that hd-held rface-to-air missi threat. >> as we wrap up here, admiral, the u.s. marines ve pulled out of afghanistan, mp leatherneck is no me for our leathernecks an the same time, another conflict between our uniform military and civilian leadership. the mitary saying the afghans enowhere near ready. >> my view is we've got a shot. know what failure looks like and that's cdiraq, wherere the s. military esence was withdrn completely. we did not fuill ourlan keep 15,000 visors, mentors in cocountry and now we see the results ofhat. i think ifwe can kee e plan is about 12,000to 15,000 u.s. and to advisors and mentors in couny, i think we have a better than even chance of avoiding thehe kind of dee that's unfoldi now i raq. if we simply pull out like we did iraq, we are ing to see the whole thin collapse. so let's ho we can keep a sufficient number of troops there, not set any artificial timelines for withawal. agai this is only about 1200 troops from high of150,000. i think we've got aasonab chance but it will be a near run thg. >> takingnote that the admiral said, he used the hypothetical with the word "if" and added the word "hope" it sesee perilous langue to be forced to use when coitting our troops to ttle admira aays good to see you. thanks so much. author of the new bookthe cideal admiral as i hav said about him, nothing accidental about it. we recommend the book to y you highly. up nt, the 9/11fflag, t orin moon landing footage, important icons of amecan story. story. theyre allissi. from fhionetailers to healtjewelersoviders, to sportingood stores, we p provide financing solutios for all soof businesses. bankin loyalty. analytics. syengage with us. you know your dentures can ve. unlike natural. try new fixodent plus truefeel. this smooth formula helps keep deures in ple. it's fe of flavors and lorants for a closer feeli t naturat fixode. and foet it. joining me no the host, creator of h-2's lostistory and best-seing author, br meltzer. first ofof all,reato see you, my friend. >> always go t see e you. >> this is ather spectacular adventure u're taking off o our lost hiory. you're breaking ouhets already. >> it's uunbelievable, right? the flag thatthe firefighters ised on 9/11t ground zero is missing. the wright brotrs' paten f the original airplane, ne. even jamesbond's fausston martin that sean conery drove in "ldfinger" stolen. on eachepisode, we tell you the sty of the item,we tll you where it was last seen,ho the suecre and then say america, we need your help. you help us fi it, we will ve you a $10,000 reward. ouhope i to raim our lost history. >> how about for the car, $10,00 >> we should bump just beuse the car is worth at least $5 million. we know tha >> we got tou that up. >> themazing story is these aren't small things. like the car comes out, 's stolen fm an airport in flida, 100 feet out of the airport you can see thecks of t wheels and after th the wheel tracks stop. ow what that means? means someone airliftedt out of there. this iaophisticated robbery. thissn't like taking it fr the ll. >> how about one of th big cran and put it on a boat? >> listen, or james bond's ck tng. whatever it is. but the point is, no one even kns ese thingsre gone. wh y he tse stories, you just go you kw what, we heard at one poi the bi rights was hanng on some ri guy's wall. you know what, l, history doesn't belong to some rich guy. history doesn't long to some drug dealer who is trying to lader his money through lost and stolen artifacts. history bengs to all of us. of the greatest item there, do i think we are going to find jack kennedy's pillbox hat? i would love to find those things. >> who h it? >> ththat's the ing. the actual it, the pink su she wore i in the national archivesight now. the hat is not. things like the 9/11 flag. i was jt tag to rudy giulianibo it. we all know the flag and it goes up, it's famously raised, then comes down a this greek couple steps rward and they say that'sflag. th d't want it back. they want to keep it and putt in a museum. but when theyunfurl ithey say our flag is a three by five flag the firefighters whoaise i sathat was ahree by fe flag. this isn't o flag. rudy giuliansaid true story, yot to write, he said that flag that went everywhere wasn't the ght ag. >> of allhe this rht now u are going to real to us, paof our lost hihistory, what is theoscurious to you? >>he most curious one is k's brain. let me say that again. jfk's brain isissing. we all know his body wt aft he was assassinated, went to arlington national cemetery. his brain was separad. they never did forensic testing on it. god knows what it could show us about trajectory how man shots were fired. the azg part is i don't expect anyone to bring back the brain but at one poi in time, someone had to have put it in a container and was walking around washington, d.c. with this. i want to know who took it and erdid it go. the person they suspect it to be is a family member and meone who is trying to protect their own family >> i was afraid that -- >>isten -- >> the show airs? >> we start on halloween night at10:00 eastern time and eery frayer that on-2. >> oliver: tonight, on war stories tonight on "war stories." legendary war crimes in tokyo. >> you'll meet the colorful prosecutors. >> he was very brusque, crude individual. he had a taste of drinking too much. >> we'll take you inside the courtroom dramas. >> it's a struggle for final justice. that's next on "war stories." >>

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