Not dominant role in the egyptian government. Well be exploring throughout the region the degegree to whic the obama Foreign Policy is responsible and whether this administration cannot successfully play a struktive role in support of egypts secular military and in the shaping of a new democratic government with or without the Muslim Brotherhood and any forthcoming governing coalition. Our Foreign Policy expert will also take on the issue of why mr. Obama wants the Muslim Brotherhoods participation despite the objections of the secular military and other elements of the egyptian governing coalition. This is where things stand tonight in egypt. The interim government came into power after the removal of mohamed morsi, an development the president still refuses to call a coup cracked down ominous limb demonstrators today and in a deadly violent fashion, military Police Working to move them, virt actually since he was stopped. Bulldozers, tanks, helicopters, cops, killing well over 200 civilians. The government reporting that at least 49 police have been killed in attacks by morsi supporters who stormed police stations across cairo. Entire neighborhoods falling into battle lines among neighbors on opposite sides of the political con front tangs. Egypts into trim president declaring a monthlong state of security. Men sar dering the military and police to restore law and order and to protect state facilities. Vice president mohamed elbaradei, howeve has thdrawn. Elbaradei had withdrawn shortly after the onset of bloodshed saying, quote, it has become difficult for me to continue bearing responsibility for decisions that i do not agree with and whose consequences i fear. Fox news sources on the ground rert that el baredy had clashed repeatedly with the chief of egypts military over the standoff with morsis brotherhood supporters. The president today, silent on the manner, as he continues his vacation on Marthas Vineyard with another round of golf. The white use sending Deputy Press Secretary josh ernest to the cameras to condemn those attacks before secretary of state john kerry made the following remark. This sounds a lot like an endorsement of the Muslim Brotherhood and their leader of choice, mohamed morsi. These events are deplorable, and they run counter to egyptian aspirations for peace, inclusion, and genuine democracy. The egyptians inside and outside the government need to take a step back. Kerrys surprise appearance at the state Department Briefing marked by his hubs that egypt parties can work out a diplomatic solution. This as the Obama State Department refuses to claim that egypt is now embroiled in a civil war or that the military takeover could be described as a coup. Were looking at an administration that still has not defined what has happened in a foreign nation over a month ago since this president was removed from office or how they plan for that matter to preserve american interests in that region and nation. Fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the report. Reporter u. S. Officials said the horrific spectacle of them firing on the protesters once again raise the specter of civil war in the worlds most populous ab nation dealt a blow to them. They urged all parties to cease fire and resume dialogue. I presume that path is still open and it is possible, though it has been made much, much harder, much more complicated by the events of today. Reporter National Security adviser sun rice has been briefing president obama during his vacation on Marthas Vineyard. His spokesman was pressed on whether theousster of the muslim government in july and its latest assault ominous limb supporters dont make it clear that they have staged a cow data coup de tat in egypt. The Obama Administration has tapdanced around it like fred astaire. What im trying to say to you is there are certain legal obligations that go with the definition of a coup, and it has been determined byenior Foreign Policy officials in this administration to not make a determation. We look at our legal requirements determine that were not required to make a determination. We look at everything through the prism at what is the impact on National Security, on regional stability . How can we best play a role . Reporter the say its misguided with disastrous effects. As we predicted and feared, he tweeted, we fear they have taken over. From cairo to baghdad, were failing across the board. Mid easts literally in is not flames, and the biggest prize of all is egypt. If we lose egypt. If egypt becomes a failed fractured state, i cannot imagine what israels future looks li. Reporter kerry spoke with elbaradei after he resigned, but he added that kerry made no effort to persuade elbaradei to stay on in his job. Lou . James, thank you. The Obama Administrations failure to accurately describe the situation in egypt is somewhat surprising because its was quick to frame the ft. Hood massacre aworkplace violence after the self described mao shah ha dean major nidal hasan kill 13d of our troops and wounded more than 30 others. It is outrageous that this administration would not describe truth truthfully the reality on the ground around the world and particularly in my judgment at ft. Hood. For more on what appears to be a tactical victory by the military in egypt and a war on the secular solution, joining us fox contributor judith miller. Also dr. Walib ferris. Good to have you both here. Let me ask you first, judy. Is it a government having its way . Is it establishing itself, or is it on the edge of a rit rebellion . Well, i think the government, whiches that support of the majority of the egyptian people was actually pushed by the egyptian people into this very dramatic and risky policy. The egyptian people or the people . The egyptian people wanted them to get out of the streets, end the encampments that are basically closing off much of cairo to their own people. They had had it with morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood. They wanted the Egyptian Military to take charge and restore egypt. Thats whats happeni today. Thats why the administration is having a hard time on the one hand supporting the military and on the other hand still attempting to support democracy. Honestly i see it more than just difficult, walid. I see it so enflikting in its statements and initiatives, sending mccann ain and others te Muslim Brotherhood. They wanted that out but so did others of the presumptive coalition. What is your analysis . They made it very, very clear. After there are decisionmakers, they think its chaos. It is not chaos. It is part of the war on terror. What happened today as you just said in the introduction, is a win, is a tactical victory in the war against extremists. Theyre the mother company, the mother machine that has been feeding all the others. So the army, as judith said, listened to what the people have said. They mandated the army. 23 million on june 3rd marched and another 30 to 40,000 march and asked the army to get rid of the armed enclaves cairo. This is not against democracy or the demonstration. They can do the demonstration as wuch as they want. Let me ask you both, and judy,tyll start with you. Why are they sending off lindy graham and mccain . Where is this administration suppting the brotherhood when theyre a clear and present danger to stability not only in egypt but of the region . Lou, i dont think they are supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. I think what they want to avoid is the Muslim Brotherhood going underground and starting to wage the kind of terrorism within egypt that the jihadees have waged throughout the middle east. The only way to do that is to get the military to include them in some way, shape, or form. And so you send mccain and you send graham to deliver that message. That message that isnt the message i flank heard them deliver, insisting upon egyptian brotherhood participation. Speaking directly to the leaders of the secular military, including the general, this is preposterous on its face to me that their idea about avoiding a guerilla war with a Muslim Brotherhood is to put them in a significant role within a coalition, a governor coalition. Well, i think as long as the military is calling the shots, you can afford to have some Muslim Brotherhood participation without risking military civilian control or i should say military secular control of the country. But were talking about an organization that has just lost with morsi being thrown from office by the military. Walid, your thoughts. Look. Many advisers, academics in washington have been advising the administration and outside the administration that the Muslim Brotherhood are kneee. Once in government, theyre going to be very nice. That is not the case. Theyll do as much as they can when they grab the entire government. What did he do . Thats why there was 60 million egypt chans who rose against him. What the Muslim Brotherhood needs to do is to reform. Do what gorbachev tried to do in the communist party and he failed them. I cannot look elbaradei, stepping in, stepping out, what is his vision in his own role in egypts politics and its future . Well, lou, i think the man who won the nobel peace prees can hardsly sit back and watch hundreds of his people be slaughter. Are you saying his people are the Muslim Brotherhood . No. Egyptians. Anyone killed in egypt. He was okay with doing it in a gentler kinder way of starving them out. Hes a preposterous man. Elbaradei was a u. N. Man who spent more time in egypt. He doesnt know his own country and i think weve seen that today. He was not quick to say, oh, no, please stay with us. Was he . No, no. Weve been seeing him on many networks. There are 500 elbaradeis with degrees. El pair day is a afraid. Hes afraid to step down and come back when the process is clarified. Thank you very much. Attorney general eric holder gives a speech oven w he andpot thank theyre entitled to a rule of law or ignor more on the attorney generals latest socalled smart on crime policy. Im joined by criminal defense attorney fox news legal analyst Arthur Aidala and Christopher Adams who served under both president s bush and obama. The author of the book injustice. Christian, good to have you with us. Arthur, let me turn to you. We have heard from a number of people today that basically as controversial as it seems, that the attorney general is reall asking prosecutors, u. S. Attorneys, to do what theyre already doing. Well, heres the i think the general concept is a good concept thats heading in the right direction. State courts have been doing this with drug laws for a long time. We did it in new york. We overhauled the laws. Theres too many people in jail for these drug crimes. However, the way hes telling you know, this is a novel thing to say. There are way too many people to have been found guilty of offending drug laws. Americans have more people in jail than any member on the planet earth statistically speaking. What hes doing is basically changing the laws of Congress Without going in and actually changing the laws of congress and hes doing it in a very simple way. He told the prosecutors, dont put in the amount of drugs which would trigger a mandatory minimum sentence, which the judge has no discretion. Christian, that is to me the most incendiary insulting part of what the administration is doing. Basically telling prosecutors to withhold evidence. Yeah. Why do we always seem to have an attorney general always on the side of the lawless. Theyre going to essentially be concealing relevant information from the court. If the federal judges are smart, theyll start asking the u. S. Attorneys in court, how many drugs did he have. We can debate the federal drug laws. Its a mess. The one thing they ought to do is tell the truth. This guy has a problem over and over and over again adhering to the rule of law and telling the truth. Let me turn now to another challenge and that is the border surge and asylum seekers, arthur. Were looking at now what many authorities may feel attempts to swamp the system by claiming asylum from mention cal nationals who claimly did not claim asylum. They simply crossed the border. Whats going on . What do we do . Its the foundation of america is to welcome people in as long as theyre legal people who are here who want to come in legally, want become taxpaying members and respected members of our society. I dont know what to do. What do you tell them . No, were not going to take you. If you come from check oom czec ya. I dont know whats happening. Do you think theres an organized effort to crash the system . I dont know. Do i . You wrote three books. How about it . What do you think is going on. Of course, theres an organized effort. This is the the Justice Department is giving orders and the dss is giving orders to cut people loose once they catch them if they invoke the magic words or theyre putting them up at the sheraton san ego. These people belong in Detention Centers before a judge can hear their claim. This is a deliberate every effort to swamp the system. Its what the left always does. Why is this president always on the side of the radicals and the lawless. Why are they always aiding the law breakers and not defending the lawabiding citizen. You have a lot more experience than i do. I happen to agree the drug laws arent working and something has to happen and if you look at the local government systems, what has been working is more programs, more rehabilitation. If you look at the prak ters, they say no one should cut a break if they used a weapon, if they sell drugs to a minor. Theyre talking about the schmucks as we call them in brooklyn. But the schmucks arent being incarcerated. Under the current law they are and the judge who wants to give them break cant. Dyou agree with that . Its a job for congress, not a king to change the law. There should be a debate in congress about the federal mess of ridiculous drug laws, but its not the attorney generals laws to apiece racial Interest Groups by changing the law like a king would do. Federal judge ruled the nypd deliberately violated the rights of tens of thousands with the socalled stop and frisk measure which is not only a Law Enforcement tactic but also an antiterrorism tactic. Its a huge ruling especially here in new york city. And one of the things she found was statistically showing it was either 80 or 88 of people who were stopped were let go, which means the officers who were saying they d reason to believe they were doing something wrong, were only correct 12 of the time . Shes saying youre stopping people because of the way they looked, not because you saw a bulge. Thats a Pretty Amazing powerful of inferentialogic on the part of the judge. I can see her drawing some conclusions, but you could as easily, could you not, say they are being thorough and youre casting a wide net. You would havent to infer it with us profiling. She took months of testimony from out of the office. How about this . What were their races and egts is inties . I dont want to hear inferential logic from a judge who in all likelihood well, wont say i. Christian adams, you get the last word, sir. They have consistently been hostile against these Great American traditions of liberty, hosty, and the rule of law and every day we learn more and more new things. Indeed we do. Appreciate it, christian adams. Thank you, arthur. Up next, attorney general eric holder demanding a sentence to handle the situation. The question, dumm criminals or smarter law enrcement . The boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. You must be garths father . Hello. Mother. 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