failure of communication between the state department, the pentagon and libya. hicks confirmed forces were available in tripoli, but were told to stand down before they could mount a rescue effort. >> we determined at we need to send a second team from tripoli to secure the airport for the withdraw of our personnel from benghazi ter the mortar attack. >> but were any of these u.s. military personnel not permitted to travel on a rescue mission or relief mission to benghazi? >> they were not authorized to travel >> what happened with those personnel? >> they remained in tripoli with us. >> we also learned hicks was never contacted by u.n. ambassador susan rice before she went on five separate sunday morning talk shows to deliver what turned out to bealse talking points on the protest sparked by an anti-islam video. hicks said everyone on the ground that day was aware from the get-go, he put it, tha it was a terrorist attack. >> so fast-forward, mr. hicks, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, s did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw drpped. and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest rankin official in libya at the time, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television? >> no, si >> hicks added that the president of libya was furious after the ambassador rice appearances because he went on those same sunday talk shows and he described the attack as a preplanned terror attack. according to hicks, mohamed al magraf felt embarrassed and delayed the fbi investigators from going to benazi, a delay of 17 to 18 days. oversight committee member congreman trey gotti was one of those questioning witnesses today. he joins us in moments with his assessment of the extraordinary testimy which we heard. the benghazi whistle blowers themselves revealed new information about the events of september 11h, but they left a sizable number, a major question, unanswered. among those questions, why did the obama administration insist upon carrying out a media campaign to blame the deadly attacks on the amateur producer of a poorly produced youtube video, lampooning mohammed and muslims. james rosen has e report. >> reporter: every piece of inrmation we get as w got it we laid it out for the american people. >> if any administration official innluding any career official had been on television on sunday, september 16th, they would have said theame thing that ambassador rice had said. >> reporter: those statements about what the obama administration knew when u.n. ambassador susan rice appeared on the sunday shows of september 16 came under fresh assault. >> did you report to anyonein washington within the first couple of days that there was anything in connection -- a protest in connection to a youtube video? >> no, the only report that our mission made through every channel was that there had been an attack on a consulate. >> not a protest?t? >> no protest. >> reporter: further evidence that mr. obama's aides knew rice's narrative was falseame when a gop lawmaker read from a previously undiscled e-mail that beth jones, acting assistant secretary of state for the middle east, sent on seember 12th, about her discussions with the libyan ambassador. >> this is from miss jones to you, to counsel for hillary clinton, to victoria nuland, to mr. kennedy and i'm going to read from it. when he id his gornment suspected that former gadhafi regime elements carried out the attacks, i told him that the group that conducted the attacks, ansar al sharia, is affiliated with islamic terrorists. >> reporter: on september 14th, a cia document first published in the may 13 issue of the weekly stanrd, likewise stated we do know that islamic extremists withties to al qaeda participated in the attack. yet rice and other senior u.s. officials far from putting out ery piece of informationas they got it continued to press the false narrative. >> our initial information and that includes all information, we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack. >> i wish i could sit here today and tell you that within days, within a week, by september 20th, when we came up here, we had a clear picture. we did not have a clear picture. >> reporter: another newly unveiled e-mail was sent on 9/11 by mark thompson, the operations officer at the state department's counterterrorism bureau, with the u.s.nnex in benghazi about to face mortar fire, thompson wrote to patrick kennedy deputy wondering why the undersecretary had swiftly rejected the option that the fbi and theefense department special operations command had recommended that night, the deployment of the foreign emergency support team or fest. >> you wrote, quote, pat kennedy participated in a senior conference call withhthe white hous and discouraged fest on option. the fbi responded this situation would be better addressed via a fest response. why was fest not called into action? >> i do not know. >> reporter: this week, thompson's former boss, daniel benjamin, said the decision not to deploy fest was the correct one, but the day after the attacks thompson wrote in an e-mail to two colleagues -- >> daniel benjamin on the phone this morning, he understands my fest point, concurs, but expressed his pessimism regarding our deployment and by extension does not intend to lobby for our inclion. end quote. >> reporter: in a five-page point by point rebuttal released late tuesday night, a senior state departnt official argued that fest could not have arrived in libya in time to help the besieged amerins, lou. >> and could not have known that they would not, whicheaves open the question ththat is her that is why they were not dispatched, ofourse. james, further news made after the committeeearing today, tell us about that. >> that'right. the chairman of this committee hearing, darrelissa, the republican from california, the ranking democrat, elijah cummings from maryland, after the hearing they spoke to reporters andtherein congressman cummings, the democrat, aknowledged for the first time he now agrees with chairman issa that this panel needs to hear directly in testimony, sworn testimony, from the two men who led the state department's post benghazi review board. form u.n. ambassador tom pickering and the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen. today, the committee released a pair of letters they sent to ese two men back in february, asking them to testify witnesses, they decled. lou? >> they declined. and that's quite a reversal for elijah cummings, who at the beginning of this day was absolutely adamant in rejecting this hearing because he believ was utterly and politically movated. thank you, james rosen, tstanding reporting hroughout this story. we appreciate it. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen. congressman trey gowdy as you heard in tonight's broadcast is one of the senior members of the house oversight committee. and he made this statement as today's hearing began. >> if anyone wants to know what differences it makes, if anyone wants ask what fference does it make, it always matters. whether or not you can trust your government. and to the families, we're going to find out what happened in benghazi and i don't care whose career is impacted. we're going to find out what happened. >> congressman trey gowdy now joins us. in addition to the house oversight commtee, he also sits on the judiciary committee and chairs the subcommittee on immigration and border security as well. quite a remarkable day, ngressman. it is good of you to be here. the criticisms that arose today were primarily, it seemed, fosed on secretary clinton, including yours. explain t if you wil >> well, w what became clear toy is that ambassador stevens was in beeghazi in part because of hillary clinn. she wanted to go to libya. she wanted a legacy. he wanted to go to benghazi, a see if that facility was secure. we also learned today that she and e alone can approve the opening or the remaining open of facilities that don't meet specifications and the one in benghazi did not meet specifications and we learned today and that e-mail from beth jones which copied her senior counselor that they knew this waa terror-related atta on september 12t the day after. they knew it had nothing to do with a video. so hillary clinton's fingerprints are all over benghazi. >> and the fact they continued to press that. the was a -- there was quite a -- if you will, a divergence in story. as you recall, the presint, in e midst of the campaign, later in debate decided he had declared it waserrorist attack, even after weeks in ich his administration and he we saying, again, this was about an anti-muslim video produced by a man who remains in jail today, on a violation of probation charge. can you square that up at this point? >> well, keep in mind, this was never about winning the aument with this administration, it was just about winning the month. they had to get from the time of benghazi past a general election. keep in mind the testimony today, by the way, from a career diplomat who doesn't have a political bone in his body, and gregory hicks, th video was a total nonevent. that's a direct quote. it was never about the video. the video had nothing do with this. the president didn't have to win the argument very long. he just had to win it until the first tuesday in november, and he id. >> and it is worthwhile noting that cbs withheld for three weeks, just about three weeks, video from an interview that was conducted on the 12th, in which the president, indeed, acknowledged precisely what you say. ambassador pickering, admiral mullen, james ron just updated us on the conversation between elijah cumming and the chairman, darrell issa. is it -- is ambassador pickering and admiral mullen, will they be testifying before your committee? >> i sure hope . you know, lou, there was a lot of skepticism yesterd. i heard it. this was going to be a political exercise, that perhaps the republics wouldn't be prepared, i have never seen the oversight committee, my colleagues on the republican side of the dais as prepared and as engaged as ty were today. and it is impossible to have watched any part of this hearing and not reach the conclusion that we need additional hearings. and you see the benefit of actually listening people who know what they're talking about, to eyewitness accounts. i don't want to hear political commentators. i don't want to hear members of congss. i want to hear people wth firsthand eyewitness accounts. so that would include the two men that you just made reference to. the accountability review board frankly, the word that leaps to mind is laughable. the notion that the state department can judge itself is no less preposterous than a student grading his own test paper. so congress needto do its job. today, think we proved even to our democrat colleagues that we can do it effectively and mr. cummings is a good person. i actually happen to like elijah cummings a i am pleased with what he said to chairman issa and jason chaffetz. he asked for five seconds during his time, and he said, you know what, i agree with you, i agree with you, we need to hear from everybody. >> i have to y, i don't know that i've ever seen certainly a ranking member of a committee as important as the house oversight committee certainly be as declarative d as outspoken a he was in opposition to a proceeding and then based on obviously a reaction to what he heard from those three witnesses today me a judgment on principle, and intellectual integrity of the kind he's just named, saying the pickering and mullen should be beforehe committee. congressman -- >> kudos to him. >> absolutely. and to you. congressman trey gowdy, thank u for being here. >> thank you, lou. appreciate it. dow 15,000. new record highs for the dow, the s&p 500. it is a party on wall street. ubs chief economist morey h hars ubs chief economist morey h hars to talk about the rally welcome to the new buffalo... where new york state is investing one billion ubs chief economist morey h hars to talk about the rally dollars to attract and grow business. where companies like geico are investing in technology & finance. welcome to the state where cutting taxes for business... is our business. welcome to the new buffalo. welcome to the new buffalo. welcome to the new buffalo. new york state is throwing out k to give your business a new edge, the edge you can only get in new york state. to grow our start your business, visit thenewny.com but maybe the problem isn'isn't your lawn. introducing the all-wheel-drive mower from husqvarna. we engineered its unique drive system and dual transmission to handle hills& thick grass& and tough terrain& without losing traction or power the all-wheel-drive mower from husqvarna. challenge the impossible. find the all- wheel-drivmower exclusively available at lowe's and independent dealers nationwide. 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