Supporters. President obama o was saintly and smooth. President trump wants to kick people out of the country and make it impossible for others to arrive, and president obama held illegal imgrain immigrant to his bosom and nursed their freedom dreams from his man teat, right, no. Immigration under president obama was a continuation of bush years, a program was in place portions local cops to turnover illegal criminals, he did that until 2015. Comparing regime, president obama fined employers for film brea immigration violations. He did not know president mom genes it, it in him. Other than abortion there is no divisive debate than immigration. A wall is not going to do much to curb naughty visitors, 60 of people who poke around illegally are here on over stays visas. Fences work great in small combined areas, but places as vast as desert. They get around the border, we have more than southern wall, there is 95,000 miles of shoreline, 300 ports of entry, that northern border we share with canada. There is no blue pill for this ed. 2 3 of border in texas is privately or stateowned. Lets be honest, federal government seizing private property is tacky. Very easy to fan the flames of fear by convincing economically unstable voters, an army of brownies wants to steal their jobs and rape their women, but we should be concerned about ending the entitlement state that acts as a shiney magnet. And one who do commit felonies should be catapulted back to the dumps from onc where they came. You are a poem, and i am kenned kennedy. A day after Trump Administration ruled out new rule, secretary of state Rex Tillerson is traveling south of the border to mexico with john kelly to do damage control. Americas neighbor to south are smarting from plans to build the wall, and economy erect tariffs, is that the name of your show . It is. Kennedy i love it. You are here in my america, buck. How much damage control do tillerson and kelly have to do in mexico, what can they say to their county parts. Their counterparts are ratcheting up tension saying they will not accept unilateral act on immigration from america. This will be a problem, already on books there are a number of laws that Trump Administration said will be enforced. One thing which has not been used in past but is an economist existing u. S. Policy, if a country does not take back deportees, we is ban all visas from this country, mexico i think will find out quickly under a Trump Administration they dont have quite the same leverage from Trump Administration does to get them to bend on some of the issues,. If we have someone violated the law next to their illegal status, and mexico will not take them back that is a problem for the mec ebb a mexican government. Kennedy of course, mexico does not want people who depend on time time and they entitlements and they dont want criminal. Right. Those are kinds of crimes that now, it is up to enforcement of immigration and customs officers, but President Trump guidance, there is guidance, it is not a law or an executive order, just saying well consider those for deportation, expand pool of likely to be detoward ported. Kennedy deported. Kennedy president obama was not good on immigration, from the point of view of immigrants, except for the dreamers. Children who came here illegally with parents. He shielded three quarters of a million of them from deportation, but sent many million more than president bush. It is too soon to see what donald trump will do, but how will Rex Tillerson and john kelly get mexico to slap down the amex to pay for the wall. I think that Trump Administration recognized the dreamers, they say they will keep it in place. Kennedy there is a caveat, unless they commit a crime. Right, then they go in to the come iting crimes category committing crimes category. You look at what obama did, he was called by immigration activist the deporter in chief. To the people on right it a head scratcher. Obama, there has been a shift, Democratic Party after the gang of 8 bill fell apart, at least narrative, i believe, it that obama of willing to tighten up some Border Control for a while, so they could get the Political Capital to get amnesty through, once that fell apart, the last two years, deportations dropped. It seemed like it was in an effort to get amnesty. But obama was deporting a lot of people, and meadia of not complaining about it, no stories of children, that were seeing now, teary eyed. But where were they a few years ago. Kennedy they were not there, there is a paradox, with voters on immigration. You know people want immigration control, that i want to make sure we have borders that are protected. People see that as a practical issue, but at same time, because, you know often times with party, it is one sydor the other but not both as for voters, they want comprehensive immigration reform, that is where Congress Keeps dropping the ball. There is a bipartisan desire to live in this gray area of the federal law that is not being infersed on immigration, where you have republicans, because of donor class and commercial interests. Or okay with Legal Immigration to somic tech fo ic tech for a long time there say bipartisan dishonesty with how parties are dealing with immigration as an issue. I think that Democratic Party is hard left on this. Kennedy they have, but i think that is a good example of a public and private position, publicly a lot of the progressives say, open borders, anyone with come in, and privately they are like, not in my neighborhood. When Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were campaigning. Hillary, said, if you come here, and you dont commit a crime, you should be allowed to stay. Kennedy she would grant them citizenship. Obamacare for illegals was on her web site that is a huge departure. Kennedy you cannot have open borders and entitlement. Absolutely not. Democrats used to give li lip service it has changed. Real change on their side, also, if this was also inhumane and terrible, barack obama had congress in his hands for first two years, they could have changed the immigration laws but they did not. Kennedy buck thank you. Great to see you. Kennedy now, lets meet party panel tonight, lisa booth. From washington examine tom shah lou. Peter suter man. Welcome to you. Hello. Kennedy the day of the hump, we have much to discuss. A new poll showing 80 of americans think that cities that arrest Illegal Immigrants for crimes should have to turn them over to federal authorities. Now 200 cities in 32 states identify as sanctuary cities, refusing to enforce federal immigration law, top 10 suck up over 2 billion in federal aid, President Trump is threatening to cut off the spigot, i start with you. A lot of americans think, i thini think this is a natural desire, if you commit crimes, you are a bad person, of course, you should tell federal authority. I am going to stick up for sanctuary cities a little bit. I thought i might. They provide protect for citizens who are here, that is one reason they were put in place, you have bush administrations security act that requires police to pick up anyone for a minor infraction to report details of people to i. C. E. , and i. C. E. To sign off on that person. That does is that means federal government has to sign off even when like, you know, a legal immigrant or a citizen has been picked up by police, that gives federal government a huge amount of power, cities are saying were not going to allow that. Kennedy okay. Often times you know local Law Enforcement like in san francisco, they dont always do the right thing, they dont always do what they should, you know if you are hire here, and you are hurting people, taking their stuff and murdering them, you should not be here. Right, if you are committing a v violent crime, and you have come here illegally you should be deported. The poll, 77 of people said they were for comprehensive immigration reform. That tells you that what people want are clear, rules, as anyone who dealt with immigration system knows we too not have. The reason you get that result, they are realizing they do exist, sanctuary cities, i dont think that people were aware of them, my wife and i were hit by a car, and driver did not have identification, license or, he i assume he was not here legally. He did not speak english, and cops you know said, okay, they send him on his way, i asked is that what you do, they said yeah, there is nothing we can do. That is the eyeopener for me, that is when i learn local Law Enforcement does nothing. Kennedy so, if you and your wife hit someone, would Law Enforcement have treated you differently. Well we would not have been arrested but they would have stayed, yo stayed you hit a guy here on the corner. We had to go to emergency room, kennedy just you and your wife. Why do you think people are adamant. I think there are a lot of complexity to immigration at large, you see republicans and democrats, changing positions, you know a lot of argument with immigration. I think there is a lot of hyperbole about things that President Trump is trying to do. You said president obama deported more illegal aliens than any other president before. There is a lot of hyperbole on the issue. But i believe that Democratic Party is overreaching their hand or over playing their hand, this is something Chris Matthews mentioned after the election. He said that one of big issues for Hillary Clinton is her inability to address immigration and her failure to say it is ilLegal Immigration it is wrong. That was one of the issues that cost her the election, i think that there is a problem for the Democratic Party over playing their hand in this open border approach. Not addressing the legality. Kennedy and no intention of letting obama carry go gently into the night. They are racing against the national day of action. Urging congress to not repeal Affordable Care act, it will have any purchase, does it seem odd to you . A little bit rich that mayors are stumping for a law that turns healthcare regulation over to the federal government. That takes it out of local hands. I dont think it will make much difference, right now, republicans are their own worst enemy with obamacare. Kennedy right. Obamacare is finally more popular now that republicans have white house and congress and are working to repeal it. Obama administration trying for years to make it more popular, now republicans, have succeeded where obama failed. Kennedy do have you fake tha faith that republicans will come up with a plan in short order. No. In march. Did he say ther say they will repeal by march. I think that reason that it is getter more popular, because, you know people do you like obamacare, they said no, it is confusing. But now it is about to be taken away. Kennedy you have to scrap the whole thing. What do you do . Scrap or augment . There is nothing to defend against it, we do not know what they are replacing it with. Kennedy right. Amazing. We have much more with the panel. Coming up could obamacare strikes back. Protests against the president , and plans to repeal aca are erupting in town halls. And later on, is reality too difficult for you, you can check our new web site, with a news feed of how life would have been in hillary had won this is the silverado special edition. This is one gorgeous truck. 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David welcome to the big show gram, i am glad you are here, have you been writing about thes town halls, if republicans cower, and they dont go, and meet their constituent the left wins. But if they are shout down then plow hards get attention. This does impact senators and congressmen when they go to their district, they are usually people in their district or state voicing opposition, i think President Trump said, they are manufactured or liberal activists you. Sure some is organized. Move on has said they are urging people to get out, people are out there from california, iowa and new york. I see it as a reverse tea party movement. Left energized by President Trump, rather than right. At heart of issue, same issue that weve been talking about for 8 years, which is healthcare. Kennedy you are right, and interesting, i know we talked about this a little bit, this is certainly one of sticking points that people are not used to having to defend themselves again, but problem is we saw with most recent poll, people are now in favor of keeping obamacare, they are worried about chaos and turmoil, it seems as though republicans dont have a cohesival ver al very alternative at the ready. We have seen the plans drawn up. A little bit of difference in those, but there is not unity behind one plan, now Trump Administration has to step up, and put out a plan in beginning to mid march, and i think that is only way you can get republican cohesion. The president has to get involv, so far, he has stayedack saying well repeal and replace, but the questions is ha is that replacement. Kennedy he has to be logical unifies force, Reince Priebus said that, it will be you know just a week or two from now they put forward their plan. You say this is huang week for president. A defining week. Because have you cpac, and dnc at same time, what makes it so big . A lot going on, cpac, a 4 day event, president addresses cpac friday, it has not always been friendly to the president. Last year, in midst of republican primary race, he did not show up to cpac. Now i think he will get a heros welcome, because winning solvings problem. He occupied oval office now, i think they will salute him, it will be interesting to see if he gets into policy that goes against conservative orthodoxy, on trade . Or russia and foreign policy. Kennedy it is going to be a different year, because, you know, rand paul has been victorious at cpac, he is not going to share. David thank you. Thank you. Kennedy all right coming up, more on cpac, it kicks off the annual convention tomorrow. But for first time donald trump will be president. And addressing the big crowd. I will ask dana what to expect, your cpac guide is next. Hey, searching for a great used car . I dont want one thats had a big wreck just sayshowe cars with no accidents reported find the cars you want, avoid the ones you dont plus you get a free carfax® report with every listing i like it start your used car search at carfax. Com kennedy conservatives gather en masse at cpac for phoeni next 4 days in wake of President Trumps victory, in keeping the majority in house and senate. But schumer said that love fest with president will not last long, oh, chuck. My prediction is sh is he keeps up on this, in 4 months you see republicans breaking with him. They are good people, they will feel they have no choice but to break with him. Kennedy when did he turn into christopher. Opposite happen, and more republicans fall in line . Joining me to discuss, cpac has been so interest over the years, because, for a while, last 4 years it has been libertarian. But this year, marks a dramatic shift. How has the winner rewritten the rules. He won. There is that. I had a chance to go cpac last year, i loved the number of young people, and energy and excitement. That was when you had i think 12 people in the primary. So, this is going to be different. I think Chuck Schumer he could be right, he could be drastically wrong. Looking at these places have you tough senate or house races in next midterm, it is just as likely that republicans who may be traditional republicans or unco uncomfortable with trade status perhaps, they might say, i have to take good with bad, i love the Supreme Court nomination, i love what he is doing on energy and environment. So okay fine trade. They are not going to necessarily walk away. Kennedy that is tru