what do you think they look for? >> good afternoon. they are going to piece everything together and go for the witnesses and backgrounds of everyone who came in contact prior to departure, the baggage handlers, people who handle the catering. try to determine the background if they have something to do with what happened last night. >> what happened late in the flight? only 45 minute away from landing in cairo. you'd think it was time over the mediterranean at the data and if so what? >> typically, i would think the terrorists would opt for blowing the airplane up when it is tied and over a big idea of water. there is very little evidence. these devices that are made are improvised and very basic could be as simple as the alarm clock and batteries. they often don't function as they are meant to be. neil: there are reports that the jets were being human people on the ground nearby with a large explosion. swerving would indicate some sort of an event in the cockpit. i know it's risky. what do you make of that? >> in the same income of the swerving as a result of the airplane coming apart. it doesn't necessarily have to come apart in a million pieces. imagine your come imagine your car mosque on a wing, which causes the airplane to turn left or right. it's probably a result of a structural failure as a result of an explosive device of some sort. neil: coyote, thank you very, very much. we're monitoring press conference is so nice. there's so much we don't know. airbus has offered any and all help they can to those involved. meanwhile i comes during this same week we have been learning about long security line in this country up to three hours. does this mitigate the talk and maybe weighed in on the land will be worth it. tom blanchard and us, former deputy gsa administrator. most american they sure if the lines are keeping us safer, they are not so sure of that. what do you think? >> i think security is certainly a factor in the longer lines. last summer we've learned that the checkpoints were pretty porous. test teams were walking through with prohibited items, bomb stimulants and i sort of thing indicated the tsa's culture was upside down. too much convenience versus not enough security. one of the reasons the lines are longer if they are trying to retrain the officers that are out there and make them more aware of the security related issues and that means they have to take more time to look at passengers and more times to look at x-ray images as to what is being carried on. that is certainly a factor. >> you have to ask yourself, a lot of people say are they using bloglines as an excuse to say when in fact it could eat incompetence. >> well, i'm can't write that off either. you know, government agency and the work flexible are oxymorons. and so, the airlines have had a substantial increase in passenger loading up to 7% and psa -- tsa needs to respond to that. the agreement to cut in the personnel budget he cuts the pre-check operations were supposed to increase efficiencies. well, they didn't. and so you now have less money for less personnel in an increase in passengers presented themselves for screening. it is creating a very bad situation. neil: i'm curious to pick your brain on how when a guy like you travel for the family as traveling, or other regions of the world to avoid or are there even planes you avoid common carriers you avoid? i'll get into this with my next guest, but getting very skittish suddenly about air travel. i'm sure this happens every time there is an incident. what he do? >> well, generally speaking, if you can travel wherever you have to go aboard a u.s. carrier, my suggestion would be used the u.s. carrier. they are subject to dhs regulation and they need to be responsive to those. it is a little looser for the international carriers and flying inbound. i think you can rely on the regulation and cooperation of the u.s. carriers. anyone that has to travel to the middle east ought to be where can i pay very attention -- pay close attention to the state department travel restriction and understand airport security especially in the middle east and perhaps we are going to learn even in europe at paris today is a nod to the standards that we frank we see here in the u.s. you need to be very careful and thoughtful about what foreign destinations you choose to travel to these days. neil: you think of paris and that's a reasonably safe place to go. you're right. you don't know. thank you very much. to that point they are taking our related tackle issues today just on the fear of days. the last question is later. look at what is going on but airline stocks. any etf having to do with leisure, they are all taking it not across the board, but enough of them, the large domestic travel not so much the case. is that justified? "forbes" executive editor, what do you think? obviously, we are all human beings. we hear about this and say do i need to take that foreign trip? but i want to risk it with my kids, with my family? would he think of their predictable skittishness? >> well, the skittishness based on this tragedy is probably short term. even after 9/11, airline travel and a lot of the leisure companies came back in a matter of months rather than years. so i don't think that's a big problem. a bigger problem moving forward as the overall economy, which is down now for three straight quarters in the skittishness of the stock market. the economy has a much bigger impact long-term on air travel ban does a tragedy like this. >> you know, i was thinking, probably more problematic for travel is just a hassle. we were warned earlier in the week, a lot of cases you might want to get to the airport three hours early. a lot of folks are saying i don't need this. i will check out -- did you not all the pain in the factor of traveling. >> i think that certainly is an issue particularly with gas prices so low, what you see during this period as people say you know what, i've also been thinking about maybe going on a cross-country trip or visiting some relatives in a different state. it is much more affordable now. why wait on the line perhaps for an hour or in some cases about two hours to get on a plane where you will fly an hour and a half could just get in your car and be off on your way. that is something that could curtail some of the upswing we've seen in air travel. last summer was an all-time high as you recall. neil: yeah. mike is in the end, ford's executive editor. not only the update on what is happening, but another presser in which golfer phil mickelson is going to talk about a settlement he has made to return insider trading or accuse insider trading in whatever gains the side of those investment. there are no criminal charges here, so it is a unique kind of settlement. the question is now whether that will scare away, use them to advertise areas picnic at it than million dollars last year, a lot of that coming off of these endorsements. we will see the effect it has on the end. all of that. show me top new artist. ah, ha ha. show me top male artist. my whole belieber fan group. it's not a competition, but if it was i won. xfinity x1 lets you access the greatest library of billboard music awards moments, simply by using your voice. the billboard music awards, live sunday may 22nd, 8/5 pacific, only on abc. neil: you heard an earlier report today that there was wreckage found in the eastern mediterranean. we are hearing that authorities at egypt air are dismissing not on several tv channels come and say no such wreckage has been found. a number of individuals in terrorist incidents are likely has been found egypt's aviation says a terrorist attack was more likely to take down the aircraft and the technical failure. we don't know what i precipitated. other countries haven't been saying much the same. the guy who beat them to the punch if you love, donald trump tweeting earlier today on news of the plane crash that it had two bad a terror attack. it turns out that was the case, but others have criticized mr. trump for being a bit premature. then again, a lot of terrorist incidents, they seem to sort of hold out as mr. trump had said they would and it's a constant factor. first, charlie gasparino on that story. on terror, donald trump -- that's a big signature issue. >> yeah, i will say this. if there's one thing you can say, i think you should wait until the facts come in. that's a more prudent way of doing it. why listen to me? donald trump, if there's one thing is incredibly adept that during this election cycle is understanding the news cycle, how to control the news. that's why he's gotten away with beating it. i've heard a remarkable statistic at a dinner party last night. jeb bush spent about 50, $60 million in new hampshire alone and came in 10th place, whatever it was. donald trump is the presumptive nominee of the republican par and spending $50 million on everything. he understands how to control the news cycle. that's what he's doing. it's actually brilliant idea. say what you want about his economic trend, which is all over the place. there is no doubt this is the smartest man running a campaign in terms of his understanding of news, the news cycle, how to control it and had a dominated and that's what he's doing right now. it's fascinating to watch them work. he should get a phd in the stuff. this is harper, gail, the entire ivy league put together when it comes to understanding the new cycle. that is what this is all about. chances are he is probably right. if he's wrong, he hedged it a little bit. i bad he doesn't back down. >> uni report in the past whether you agree or disagree, world events somehow have a way of lining issues that are big to him but the board was reaffirmed the concerns that paris and brussels attacks that echoed what everybody wake up so now we have an incident like this. >> you mention sanctuary city like a day later there was a killing in the disco of some guy that was there illegally. the opponents in the election has not commented as of yet that i know of and i want to be clear about that. the speeches that donald trump wants details. you've got some details. >> here's the thing. a lot has been said about donald trump's business is since leaving office. a lot of it about the clinton foundation and the speeches he piggybacked off of. here's what i did. my producer and i went through every line item has the speeches. we called up some of their major corporate contributors. fascinating between 2013 and 2015. she made $21.6 million fee of 90 speeches. the names are what you might expect. huge wall street firms that morgan stanley 225,000. interesting, goldman sachs did her a speeches at 675,000. the method names that that are out there, cisco, qualcomm, the american camping association. i know you're a big number there. that is a conflict of interest we have to bring out. the economic club of grand rapids. i didn't realize they have that much money. 225,000. fidelity investments 225. here is one which i think is fascinating. united fresh produce association of chicago. another 225,000. very lucrative. she did very well since leaving the state department. she did it via speeches to many of the people -- many companies and entities that she will be regulating national becomes president. doesn't take a rocket scientist that there's a huge conflict of interest to goldman sachs, which you are the president and your federal reserve appointed chairperson regulates goldman sachs and those folks have treated you very nicely. quite frankly, reporters give speeches sometimes. we are told not to give speeches to people we might cover. i wonder if anybody might have whispered in acquaintance here, don't give a speech of goldman sachs, morgan stanley or fidelity because you might have to regulate them. it's a clear conflict of interest. this is a very interesting campaign. you havea woman on the other hand than the democratic candidate tries to perturb yourself as a long-time politician, that she actually was a business person over the last three years for she squeezed out a lot of money. that is not bad work. $225,000 -- with the speeches go, you generally speak for 20 minutes and 20 minutes of q&a. having a bad gig. neil: would have been would have been not to produce one. >> she's still not releasing the transcript of her goldman sachs beach. i want to know what she said to the american camping association. but out the fire after related. maybe she talked about how you can roast marshmallows and hot. you know, environmentally safe way to roast marshmallows and hot dogs. neil: thank you. charlie gasparino. he's got the list. in the meantime, some sadness to pass along. we have learned that 60 minutes correspondent morley safer who just retired, he's dead at 84. we will have more to this. neil: all right. we are getting a statement from golfer phil mickelson who says he feels vindicated because while he's giving back all began to penetrating non-dean foods stock over the years, it is not criminally charged. i don't know why he was not criminally charged and why he's been all this money back if that were the case. but he goes on to say in the statement that he understands high professional and ethical companies and expect the employees, the associate and talking through the statement of phil himself, he subscribes any appear at that on this occasion he fell short and takes all responsibility for the decisions and associations that led him to becoming part of the investigation. again, that has not been currently charged, so he gave at the he gave it to gain sunday's trade. but that's the end he's not going to be going to. the billionaire at the "washington post" among so many things, controller of amazon, shooting back at donald trump who is singing bezos, planned a stop in at the "washington post" investigate donald trump's past says that is something donald trump wants to look into if he ever became president. well, bezos responded that is not very presidential. the business owner says jeff bezos should shy away from politics. but does he have a point when you hear this? wait a minute. for potential future president to wild acclaim he's going to target me and my newspaper, and if you raise a legitimate concern? >> you could say it's a legitimate concern, but to be honest, this is the greatest show on earth. this election, selection and what we have going on here is to be the greatest reality show on the planet. everyday you wake up and went to your roots going on with trump. i'm not sure if bezos is taking the lead. knowing not in the political forum but behind closed doors as that is going to go after and thinks he's a monopolist. if that's the case, maybe bezos is doing now because he feels he can get the public opinion because he knew trump will start back in d.c. trump is doing now. this billionaire battle has just begun. neil: i don't care whether people are left or right, and but my ultimate boss who owns this company, rupert murdoch has conservative leanings. but after point that out. this story involving the "washington post," very few reporters seem to care. in fact, it's almost a road. it's almost as if you could manage on a park assembling a team to look into donald trump. it is a little weird. >> yeah, the media professionals out there today, no matter if you are on fox or any other network, you have to be fair and to and not push the agenda of the network, but get the facts. he says that he wants to bring the leaders and the folks in the question that these leaders and he is the right to do it. yes, he does. if you are going to stick 20 or 30 folks researching him and go in after him, you should do it for the other side, too. >> you're exactly right. if you want to have rupert murdoch, that's fine. make sure you're floating the other boat. >> as questions of political bias on the other side. but i don't see reported. >> i agree 100%. i think someone like yourself, you have the spot on. you have the podium, just like these companies and owners. but don't use it for political gain. don't use that for pushing their political agenda. i think that makes no sense. you should be going after shareholders value in making sure shareholders are taken care of and stakeholders first and foremost as ceo of an owner of a company. neil: it would've been nice if eight years ago there was a standout to look to look into the record background dealings of one senator barack obama. and i can say they did that. that's fair. but i don't see that. thank you very much. good to have you. >> thank you so much, neil. neil: wal-mart is up 9% today in an otherwise a free-market. target is down pretty big, but what if it's not just sales hurting target? what if it's about 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wake up? when are you going to stand up for the right things, america? neil: a woman walking through a target with rage at the retailer's new transgender policy that has so been changing rooms, bathrooms, male, female, you can use them, share them, do whatever you want with them. she is serious and she's part of more than a million people have signed a petition against this action. target is sticking to its guns and will continue with the policy. whether that has an effect on the sales of the fact they are slipping fast of a likely continue to slip past is anyone's guess. wal-mart has no such policy and picks up in sales is not experiencing any of us. wal-mart stock. who are the winners and losers? herbert jcwestern. there are problems out there. so there seems to be more problems with individual retailers than those who are not experiencing problems. what is going on? >> hi, neil. good afternoon. there's a lot of things going on. we talk about wal-mart. they had a terrific quarter. their sales are better than expected albeit 1%. their profits were up less than last year but they predicted that visibly. they've done a nice job of focusing on the games they can do to change the customers habits. one of the dances they have the big grocery business which is about 57% of their business. people have to come into the store, divide their groceries than i think because of that, they are generating traffic. in addition to raising the wages of existing and future employees, has been a big deal and i think it's also a question of how do you train the people and he believes that he can reduce turnover he can be good for customers. i think his biggest strength is not so much the internet. that's only 3% of the business. this make a nicer experience a different next year. year-to-date 57%. navigate the other parts of the business as successful as a key issue. >> you have really a pioneer the retail industry. they use that many patterns and change the way people think about retail stores than i am wondering if it is the transgender policy of targeted adds a new wrinkle to this debate. i don't need to know their views on transgender. i don't think that's important. what was and is the reaction they had to a new policy that i am wondering now as nader could make target a pariah among traditional. >> i can answer for the transgender community. we also have a huge heterosexual community and they may not have the same issues. i am not sure why we are creating a problem i didn't know was a problem before. i would have to believe the transgender population is probably 100% to 101%. that'll everyday people are not quite sure if this is something they need to deal with. if you went to the mentzer but the women's room, nobody is going to say a word. it will go into a stall. i'm not sure why he had to make a special issue out of it and offend some people. i think we have to make sure we protect the. they have the same rights. we have to be sensitive to mr. and mrs. middle america who may have a different issue on this thing and i don't think it problems to be created. >> attacked everyday folks as i am not going to target. it's ridiculous. to your point, whether you're into this issue or not, i was surprised that i can see your point, we could have seen the same about charlotte in north carolina to institute a policy in north carolina to institute a policy again the transgender. i don't know if there's need to do lots for this sort of thing or establish policies. but now you have the government involved saying at least when it comes to federal and the two shins are those that get federal funds, not retailers, but the schools were changing how they do things, public institutions, libraries and now retailers getting into sound. it seems to me to be overkill. >> i think it's overkill. you can go into a stall. when you get into schools and start dealing with how you handle people in the shower, and you have to be concerned if i am a parent with a little growth for bubble boy, i don't know how i'm going to handle this transgender person coming into the bathroom. that is unfair and i think it is unnecessary. we haven't had a problem before and i'm not sure why we are creating a problem right now. i think we also have to be careful about our own heterosexual children. that's my point of view. thank you very much. we told you a little earlier, confirming now that morley safer, a fixture at 60 minutes for 40 years has just announced his retirement. he just passed away 84 years old. more after this. this might look like a zero-gravity drop... but it's actually a triumph of predictive analytics. because of optum. through population health data, they provide insights so doctors and hospitals can identify high-risk patients. like me... asthma... potential hospital visit. so now thanks to optum, this asthma thing's under control. gravity not so much. this is healthier, powered by optum. from health plans to providers to employers. we connect all parts of health care. healthier is here. >> good afternoon from the floor of the new york stock exchange. in the midst of a pretty sharp gallop 136-point. the worst performers following the egypt air crash. down almost re-%. i also down nearly 4% paid priceline american airlines data and access to present as well. the retailers have been a better day today. urban outfitters reporting record sales. shares spiky mat more than 10% today. wal-mart also had a good showing for its most recent quarter this morning from issuing revenue growth in a not need outlook. macy's and nordstrom which is up 1.2%. after the bout the numbers for you. cap shares are slightly higher. we will be back with "cavuto: coast-to-coast." neil: the egyptian suspect that it terror we are told one of the great ministers suspect that the fight white house not so much. it is simply too early to say what has caused this disaster. the u.s. is aware of terror plan to attack the aviation system but outside of that it will not link the event that any of these other so-called terrorist sightings out there. we do know there are going to be long line ahead of this event at airport and i suspect they will be even longer. the argument tsa needs more money to fight this battle is raising among some who say wait a minute, you were kind of using this latest incident for money. more to the point where the problems it's encountering. explain your position because of course i'm these heightened fears no doubt they will use that to feel getting used more money. >> the house homeland security met with airline and airport rep senators yesterday. their strong message was the problem is local airports and there's 450 commercial airports in the united states. they don't have enough local control and flexibility for the workforce. we got with tse -- tsa a giant monopoly that does not respond to seasonal fluctuations in aviation demand. the solution is to decentralize control of aviation security, screaming to the nation's airport. >> the tsa folks, you know, a lot of airlines have been a baggage policies so people are carrying more backs. they have all sorts of things they say are working against them including much bigger and better than expected air traffic. many more people flying than they thought. and that's the problem. any private company responds to changes in customer demand by increasing the supply and adding more agents. the problem with tsa is it spends money on things that don't work and it doesn't have enough screeners. for example, chairman mccall yesterday wanted to move 3000 so-called behavior detection officers that roam around airports who federal auditors have found don't really work. he wants to move those tsa employees onto the screening lines. that makes a lot of sense. tsa is known for spending money on things that don't work and they don't spend enough on screeners. we've got this terrible problem with passengers jammed in the airport like sardines the case, which ended south creates a terrible target for a terrorist. that's the problem here. we need to decentralize security screening operation, let airports privatize screening if they want, which is the way most european countries do it and it would get a much safer and more of an efficient to stand for security and for the traveling public. neil: all of those ideas are so simple, basic and found they are not going to go anywhere. >> we will see. neil: we will see is right. whatever happened to apple? even with the likes of warren buffett. make the former microsoft executor who says everybody's getting out. what happened? if you suffer from a dry mouth, then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? well, there is biotene, specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants... biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy too. biotene, for people who suffer from a dry mouth. 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mechanical event. how they would know that and how we would dispute that i've no idea. just passing that along. also, the egyptians are countering stories out there in the press flightpath and found. they say it has not. we will keep you there. other further his development, this is typical what happened. different stories from different folks. i know wall street would rather sell first and ask questions later. anything having to do with an industry leading travel related thoughts would fear people would think twice about going anywhere. that's usually what happens after such tragedies. better to get out of those issues. that's what people are doing. isn't overdone? publicly. is it routine? definitely. i went to get to have a wall street analyst want to get out of wall street analysts are right to technology specific for former microsoft cio bob verbal. indulge me on this sort of reaction wall street has two news events and in this case a terror event. it could spread to other issues having nothing to do your work in this case the travel industry. what do you think about when young people look at investing? we now know that a record you are involved in this market concerned that they are not a safe place to be. i'm curious what you tell them. >> well, i think that has been the basic driver, debate index. people get frustrated by seeing reactions on a daily or sometimes hourly basis two pieces of news and realize they are vulnerable to that. the solution is to buy the market and to hope that over the long haul markets will do well and consequently the index funds have been huge winners over the last five, 67 years. >> whatever individual stocks to pick. that's a good and wise point. i always remind for keep that in mind throughout the crazy volatility. having said that, looking at the technology world, i'm wondering before witnessing a leadership change. technology is so cool. i don't minimize that could book that could look what's that could look what's going within sun, certainly google come out for that, call themselves. that may change, but there was a time in your microsoft is her microsoft was a fuddy-duddy and now it is not a fuddy-duddy. apple was all cool. maybe apple isn't all cool. your essay and fight the likes of moore and buffett, berkshire hathaway, there might be something longer-lasting to this. please explain. >> the problem is lack of innovation. if you look at the iphone for us versus the iphone to access, you would see the only changes are instead of offering eight gigabytes to 64 gigabytes of memory that they are now offering twice that. you say to yourself, am i going to see a difference? the answer is no. the real innovation for apple in 2007, 2008, two dozen nine with the first versions of the iphone and we haven't seen anything since. what happened is that looks like a value stock a nice lacy berkshire hathaway buying a chunk of apple. it's just like a railroad. it's just like a soft drink company and that's the kind of thing they are typically attracted to. you also see apple in a scene in another company. in her -- and goober like competitor for a company that's supposed to be an innovator. neil: you are smarter than i'll ever be, but part of the grand strategy to eventually get into cars, you are right, but you are quite right to say i'm an apple shareholder, but just to say what are they doing this revolutionary? you can argue with microsoft. they do a lot of revolutionary things. even though it seems evolutionary, what they are doing to change and advance sales on the web is very revolutionary, continues to be. i am beginning and what new do we see out of apple? >> that's the problem. you can look at the watching people have asked that patience of the watch. but the hot item there is fit to another entry such as that. they have been a follower in many of these categories of recent and that is a clear signal that there is an issue in regard to hard-core innovation. the big risk for apple as talent loss. when the really talented people within the company sees nothing fun is happening, they vote with their feet and god is a huge risk for the company. you have to have the very best talent. the signals are pretty clear that apple has a real problem. neil: i also wonder if it's incredible success. beat an ipad or iphone, those are numbers that are unique. 30 million in the next. has deemed the disappointment. did apple get too big for itself? the expectations got to be so crazy that it is just a little bit. >> absolutely. i wrote this book also despite success and it's exactly what you're talking about. companies get big. ticket tuesday. they get bureaucratic grid all of a sudden they are inward looking and all of a sudden everybody is passing them by. it happened to kodak. it happened to blackberry. over and over again. it is human nature. it's the gifted company, the gifted leader that can constantly puts you out in front and say okay, that's not good enough anymore. where are we going next? apple is not doing it. neil: the former microsoft cio. stay humble. in your case it will come handy. don't get ahead of yourself. robert, thank you very much. i want to take you to cairo now. we are reading a statement from officials there who do seem to fit whatever brought this plane down was a terrorist incident. in this country, certainly at the white house we are making the same claim. at least not yet. more coming up. ♪ . neil: welcome back, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. you're looked at cairo, egypt, the parent there where authorities are going to update us of what they think so far of what they know about what happened in egypt air's final 30 minutes. they were flying from paris, on route to cairo and then 45 minutes away from landing, it crashed. it crashed in the eastern mediterranean. there had been a dispute that there was no wreckage found, but greek authorities says the wreckage has been found, including what appear to be life vests. too early to say but ashley webster with the very, very latest. ashley. >> yeah. egypt air that said there had been no confirmation to them of the debris being found but in the last few minutes, egypt air acknowledging that, yes, wreckage has been found just to clear that up. meanwhile we know that republican congressman the chairman of the house homeland security committee says he was on a secure conference call with the head of tsa and the discussion revolved around concerns that they had issues with airport employees. ultra conservative sunni muslims. some call it the fastest growing arab in europe. typically younger aged. now, not to suggest that is behind the plane crash but we do know the paris prosecutors office has opened investigation and is looking very carefully into the background of every worker who had any contact, any possibility of contact with this egypt air flight that left paris late last night as you said, neil, failed to arrive ten miles into egyptian airspace just disappeared off the radar. you also said that you weren't sure why they could establish, it probably is terrorism. one of the things that is based on is if there was a technical problem or a fire or perhaps a failed engine or jet or something like that, it would have given the pilot and crew time to put out a may day, an emergency signal. the last contact made with the pilot was in greek airspace and he said, hey, severing great. it's calm, a clear night, and thanked them in greek. that was the last contact they had. so you put all of that together, it is the leads of some catastrophic event, happened so quickly that no one was able to onboard put out some emergency signal, neil,. neil: you know, it's weird, ashley, the white house and josh earnest to not pounce on that to say that it could have been terror that it's too soon to say that. >> yeah,. neil: of their about the only center main government authorities saying just the opposite of what everyone else is saying. >> they're being ultra cautious. i'm sure behind the scenes, that is the suspicion. neil: all right. so terror not ruled out. ashley, thank you. john half, national security advisor to dick cheney. what do you make of this, john? >> i think, neil, that all of the information and best judgments of experts does look like it's leaning toward this is an isis attack, at least terror attack. neil: wouldn't isis claim credit and for all i know maybe in the time i've been up here, they have. they haven't yet. >> yeah. they haven't yet. these things don't always happen in the immediate aftermath. isis does have these facilities, it's got this very active affiliate in the sinai that has been battling egyptian sources there that's responsible for the metro jet crash last year. so some time can pass before these things are sorted out and it goes through the process and isis central will put out a statement. neil: you know, we did get a statement out of a french security chief, you mention isis, plans on a wave of attacks on france ahead of world championship games. the first way of which will be in paris. whato yo makof that? >> well, i think it's further evidence, neil, that the terror attacks are no longer an after thought for isis. this is becoming one of their central fronts that's no less important to them than the fight that they have on the ground in syria and iraq. and in that central front, the main battlefield is now europe and france in particular. . neil: do you read anything into the fact that it's paris? or it's brussels? or the fear that both of those cities are under constant security alerts. why? why this two? just france and brussels. i think that's where their infrastructure is the strongest. more foreign jihadis from france into belgium have flown into syria and iraq and gotten that training and other european countries. but from the refugee crisis flowing into europe there are hundreds if not thousands of those people battle hardened, living in relative amanymority in these ghettos spread across europe. the french are the best of these intelligence services, neil. so you can imagine if they're running around with their hair on fire, worried about where the next attack is coming from, than some of these other security services in europe whether it's holland or germany, they've got to be more worried that something is coming toward them. neil: john quarterback thank you very much. now, in the meantime a lot of this is weighing on the markets as i said, the markets were already under dress of the federal reserve hiking interest rates, but those are the travel leash industry airline stocks taking on the chin as usually the case. is this an overreaction? not so much the aggregate markets. but what's been happening in some of these specialty issues or will people trench, especially if there are follow-up-type events. economist, former senior economist to the house joined economic committee. tim, good to have you. i mean we do know about spill over effects, people are concerned, they're worried. they sort of hunker down, they retrench, and they stop buying things. i mean we take -- i would assume much more than an incident like this to slow them down or even stop them. but what do you -- how do youwif people and there's just a tidal wave of prosperity sweeping across the world. latest estimates are world gdp goes up 3% this year. and you were talking earlier about apple. i mean this is a company that revolutionized this technological world. they created these things in our pocket. so i don't think we should get distracted by one event like this. neil: that's a good point. to look at all the productivity. but back to my doom and gloom theme. do you get a sense, though, that the consumer might be tapped out a little bit? their saving rate has moved up. the fact that when that happens, sometimes, not all the time, the retrenching for reason.your way to pr prosperit. so even though i'm an optimist, i feel frustrated that federal policy is holding us back, and that's reflecte neil: well, put, tim, thank you, good seeing you again. tim cane. >> take care. neil: egypt air is confirming, as is egypt apparently that that wreckage that was found. there's a debate whether it was. it does appear to be wreckage from egypt air. now, we're not sure what they're talking about. from afar, it looks like life vests and that sort of thing. so we're getting closer to finding not only exactly where the plane went down but what brought it down. they're seeming increasingly terror. in the meantime finding a third party alternative to donald trump. what if i told you there already is one? in fact, they've completed the ticket. the number two on that ticket with us. next show me top new artist. ah, ha ha. show me top male artist. myholeelier fagrou it's not a competition, but if it was i won. xfinity x1 lets you access the greatest library of billboard music awards moments, simply by using your voice. the billboard music awards, live sunday 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here to another fundraiser and said $25,000 to help the state party out with the debt that it incurred in large part due to the george bridge lane closing scandal. we remember that. so not your average day on the campaign trail but not the average campaign to cover by any stretch. now, as trump comes here to jersey, the fox poll numbers showed him up three points nationally to hillary clinton able to turn around what was a seven-point deficit in last month's very same fox poll. now, here in new jersey he wasn't expected to do as well. in the most recent quinnipiac numbers by clinton. has the lead over donald trump in what would be a general election matchup and in terms of bernie sanders, he would beat trump even more in this state. he has a 12-point lead. but, you know, that wouldn't be a surprise to many people who watch new jersey politics where democrats have had so much success over the years. but what is a surprise, neil, is when trump gets here this evening, usually one or the other. you have a rally or fundraise f. neil: all right. thank you, connell mcshane very much. we've told you about this third party quest to find an alternative. to what's out there, for anyone to be abalternative to donald trump. kind of figured it out a little bit. but the third party to the libertarian party. that libertarian party is on all 50 state ballots. right now gary johnson, the former new mexico governor, of course former republican presidential candidate who hopes to be that libertarian nominee. and the man who very likely could be his running mate in that event. the former massachusetts governor bill wells who could be joining gary johnson's ticket. governor, good to see you. >> thank you, neil, always a pleasure. neil: how was this decided? >> it came up rather recently. they were calling possible vice presidential candidates, and i said, yeah, i'll take a call. i like gary johnson. we served together. we knew each other favorable. neil: were you governors at the same time? >> yeah. i've known gary for a long time. mainly as a iron man triathlete. he has a lot of teddy roosevelt. neil: this was before all the pot thing. >> yeah. neil: i'm kidding. but did he ask ask you, a little bit different with the libertarian -- >> oh, no, i still have to sing for my supper next weekend. we both have to sing for our supper. neil: right. it's not a gimme. the convention decides it, right, governor? >> and it's, like, 1,000 super delegates. so libertarian. what would you expect? . neil: so this is unusual this early; right? they decide on the two who are going to be the ticket. >> right. we need that. neil: yeah. >> we need time to create the perception out there that we could be at 1 10 or 15% and that gets us into the presidential debates. i know governor johnson at 10 in a little poll last night. that's without any bell in it. neil: now it's easily 20 right there. >> well, i think a unified campaign is going to be a benefit here. i did that in massachusetts, i ran with paul as my lieutenant governor. neil: i remember very well. >> yeah. and we both went on to be governors as governed as one. you might not get two for the price of one, but you get two for the price of two. neil: it would be a substantive ticket. with romney and all of these others, also governor of your fine state of massachusetts. maybe they've been looking around and right beneathheir noses in the -- >> well, this ticket hasn't existed until this week and won't exist technically until -- neil: but the libertarian -- it's already there. that's a gimme. >> but it may make it a little bit more comfortable having two two-to your memory governors who both economically conservative and cut taxes a lot and governed in blue states and both social liberals. so we've got, you know, half what the republicans have. economic and fiscal conservatism and half what the democrats have, which is social tolerance and, you again, to 10% of the poll numbers. so you can databased, always a. i believe your debates with senator kerry at the time, john kerry, senator kerry. >> well, if we get in the debates, i hope you would see a lot more of that. neil: if you remember there were no nasty comments. >> no. neil: but it was back and forth, back and forth. >> and it was good for the country because it clarified a lot of issues. and, you know, governor johnson and i think it would be good for the country if we can get up there and clarify the issues and say, well, maybe we shouldn't round up 11 million people whose papers are not in order and -- in the middle of the night. maybe they're already scared. neil: and then how would you respond to the hillary clinton presidency? how would you find an alternative to her? if you say donald trump's ideas are a bit extreme, how do you separate yourself from the hillary clinton? >> well, we would say it's very important not to spend money that you don't have and that you didn't raise. and that, you know, the national debt is going to be $2 trillion when president obama leaves office on the democratic side i think there's a long list of applicants with more federal funds. we just can't do that. if we keep spending money that we don't have, we will hollow out our economy and put -- neil: it's always been a tough sell; right? >> it's a tough sell if you have no discipline. but if you cry more, more, more, in rome they call that the bread in circuses. it was the end of rome in the -- neil: the goodies, the benefits, the -- >> you can't do it. neil: they polled well, though. people like that. >> okay. but people don't want to hear an economically fiscally conserving message, they won't. i think this is a reasonable country, and people understand you can't have the federal government doing what no family can do at home. neil: a lot of people say libertarians drive them nuts because if they're liberal libertarians, conserve libertarians, libertarians must be all over the map. isn't it your position government butt out and if that applies to social issues, so be it. >> yeah. my speech in 1992 was quote i want the government out of your pocketbook and out of your bedroom, closed quote. that's a pretty concise statement in my philosophy and pretty unmistakable. neil: yeah, you got booed for this comments. >> yeah. the people in the front row. neil: they hated you. so you think they'll be an appetite among the republican establishment types who are looking for an alternative to donald trump might say what you're saying. and what governor johnson is saying. >> i don't think they would wince at all, and it's possible that the millennials who you associate with bernie sanders on the other side of the aisle wouldn't wince either. there's been some polling indicated that we might do quite well with millennials if they're not still with -- neil: crucial seeing you on that stage. without it, you're like a -- >> that's right. if we can't claw our way to 10 or 15%, we're not going to claw our way to 30%. and we'll campaign hard in western states. you know, governor johnson is a real westerner, and we're both real outdoorsman. and some north -- neil: two teddy ros roosevelts. >> i can't weigh that claim. that's him. and northern new england that might be a possibility for us in vermont and new hampshire, maine, maybe massachusetts, reagan carried it twice. so we'll try to pick up a few states even if we're not in the debates just by focusing on small states. neil: while i have you here real quickly, donald trump with what do you make of the fact that now he's leading in polls and could be the next president. >> i think he's going to be the nominee, and i give him a lot of credit for doing what he's done. i didn't jump on the bandwagon to say stop the donald. he had quite a following. neil: 20,000. >> yeah. and i know a lot of the business owners who support him, and they like him a lot. i think that's -- neil: do you think he's dangerous? >> well, i think the immigration proposal is hugely dangerous. the sanctions on china, the treatment of mexico, a lot of the international relations suggestions nuclear weapons in japan, nuclear weapons in south korea, my favorite heads of state are putin and kim in north korea. kim in north korea is practically aiming weapons at new york. give me a break. neil: so the vice president johnson wouldn't talk to kim. >> well, certainly wouldn't say he was our second favorite foreign leader. neil: very good. governor, very good to see you. >> thank you, neil,. neil: and to his point, don't get the chance if you don't get the poll numbers to have a chance and speak to the american people. all right. in the meantime, we are getting more updates on egypt air. wreckage has been found. they seem to be sticking to their guns here. this was a terrorist incident. the white house, they're not jumping at that. they're saying it's still too early to tell. but the french, the greeks, the egyptians, all seem to think terror. i don't know where they're getting this from or what they're seeing that apparently we are not, but they say terror. more after this . >> attention target customers, do not be deceived. target would have you believe with their mother's day displays that they love mothers and children's. this is a deception. this is not love, and they open their bathrooms to perverted men. i'm a mother of 12, and i'm very disgusted by this wicked practice. . neil: all right. can you imagine being behind that woman saying i just want to get the carmel corn tin. curious about target's new policy that anyone, any sex can use the bathroom, any sitting room. have at it. that triggered the response and protest unlike we've seen for any other company targeting protests saying wait a minute target. not going to get too much better. walmart not doing too schappey. i'm not going to say this entire transgender policy but i don't know. my next guest says there could be something to it. national radio host. it is curious that, you know, things are down as this whole transgender issue is heated up, particularly at target. what do you think of that? >> well, you know, neil, i think a lot of it has got obviously the numbers that were seen coming out of target now are prefer backyard looking, throws the stock to a new 52-week low. it has a lot to do with that. but when we look at the forward guidance that is out, obviously sales are going to remain down. and, you know, my thoughts, neil, on the whole thing is it's amazing to me when you are struggling to make numbers on a regular basis that you would make a decision that would alienate a huge piece of your buying public. i think it was at best it was just a horrible marketing decision. and i think we're seeing this across corporate america. neil: yeah, on the politically correct train. and i'm not saying good or bad about this transgender. i'm saying it's focused on the .3 of 1% who are transgenders and for whom this is i'm sure quite an important issue. but it loses sight of the 99.97% of the other folks who are concerned about. but obviously when a million people sign on a petition to say are you out of your mind? i mean to be that oblivious to it -- >> well, it's amazing to me that a decision like this was made again. but here's the interesting part when we look at it. you know, -- and the thing that is most aggravating to me is we lack leadership in corporate america almost as bad as we do in the political arena. and i don't understand why someone in corporate america, in this case target, they can't say, look, we sell clothes, we sell a little bit of groceries, we sell a bike here and there, that's our business, and we're going to stay out of the culture world. we're going to leave that to the culture warriors of the left, the culture warriors, but we sell clothes here. i don't know why that's hard and difficult for corporate leaders to do. neil: yeah, it's a lot of these people who are concerned. i know many of them said we recognize, sympathize, empathize transyearning. we have a real problem. oftentimes the core of target shoppers are young moms with kids, they get anxious about that. right for them to get anxious? you could argue that until the cows come up. but i'm just saying to your point, they just want to shop. they just want to get some stuff, and they don't want to be involved in some culture war. >> exactly. i have two grown daughters. i have seven grandchildren. and, you know, they're in target or were. they used to be in target on a very regular basis. so they're in target with their children. their young children. they don't want to deal with this. they don't want to have to explain it. and it's amazing to me that a decision like this was made. and i guess you've got to blame cornell for being in a position to not have the leadership to say, look, can we just stay out of this? we just want to sell some clothes and try to get our numbers up a little bit. neil: yeah, there was no reason to do it. i don't know what statement you were making. i mean -- and ignoring your base. rule number one. dan, great insight. thank you very, very much. dan. >> thank you, neil, appreciate it. neil: all right. same here. in the meantime, white castle, night and day; right? from target or what have you. but you know what isn't? here's the common thing. the government telling these businesses what to do. from white house threats to public institutions at schools to make sure that they add here to a new transgender bathroom policy to a overtime policy. that's where white castle kicks in, and that's where its affecting their staffing, and we'll have a lot more after this here's the plan. you want a family and a career, but most of the time you feel like you're trying to wrangle a hurricane. the rest of the time, they're asleep. then one day, hr schedules a meeting with you out of the blue. and it's the worst 19 minutes of your career. but you don't sweat it because you and your advisor have prepared for 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essentially doubled that to almost $48,000 a year. great for those workers millions more qualify for overtime. not for those that pay them and look at much, much higher labor costs as a result. what do you do if you try to keep your costs under control and make sure your customers can afford the stuff you're selling. he says there is a big pill to swallow here. what do you do? >> neil, toughest things for family-owned business around 95 years, we have the group of restaurant managers. that they love their work and love the flexibility. we have to assess, 508-page rule, if you can imagine that. neil: are you kidding? takes 5708 pages to say we're doubling level at which salary an overtime kick in? >> keep in mind, that's right, keep in mind this is based on flfa, 1938, smartphone in the work place what waltons got rotary dial. time for a new flfa. what does the work place need today? it is mobile, creative workforce. when overtime shoot up like it has. it is absolutely out of control. for job creators everywhere it is difficulty. neil: whether people are for or against this, i think it is easy to use someone else's money, somebody pay more forworkers, be that small, medium and lark and sound brave you're doing it because you're not paying for it. someone else is. leaving that aside, you obviously make adjustments. what does white castle do, jamie, you specifically? obviously you have to comply with this even though apparently ran roughshod over congress. there was no vote on it. assuming that is the case and you have to comply, what do you do? how do you adjust? >> the thing we'll have to do is look at every option. the big things that restaurants and retailers everywhere are going to have to do understand, can they keep the people who are salaried, salary or consider putting those people on hourly roles where they don't have the same flexibility and creativity. our general managers spend time in the community. they want to go to the local events, part of neighborhood, supporting local little league team, whatever it will be. those things will go away for restaurateurs who don't have the ability or flexibility to pay overtime with this new demand. it isdifficult -- neil: restaurant workers or anything like that? >> that is the last thing we do. our hope is that is not the case. our focus is going to be on safe pardoning, protecting creativity and flexibility our general managers do have. i know i'm part of the job creators network. that is one of the things all the members are worried about. think about this. even affordable care act provided smaller employers exception. there is no exemption this time around. even if you have five employees you're subject to the same overtime rules. neil: i think it is fait accompli. i don't know where it is going but the argument for it, even, i talked to liberals who have this view, even if customers had to pay a little bit more for a value meal or for a burger or for fry fries they will happy do it 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which the media revealed in, and reported that tsa's performance in catching things that posed a risk was 95% failure rate. that's why they came with this crackdown. and that's what, they're doing right now is, they're, they have gone from a risk-based to shaking down everybody. and they're going in the wrong direction. neil: you know what i don't understand, congressman, tsa, no two airport are alike. two airport standards are alike. go to one airport the tsa agents are on fire. they're terrific. orlando, comes to mind. they have it down to system, fast, efficient. you talk about large crowds. other airports leave the name out of it, not so much. sounds like their standards are all over the map. so before you start hiring more people, maybe we should look making some of the standards universal for all people? >> well you have to address the threats. i've got a report here that issued within the last year that says tsa is not vetting even their employees aorport workers. this egyptair we don't know what took it down. speculation it is going to be some kind of a terrorist incident but they're shaking down people who don't pose a risk. that 99% passengers, using resources there. i held a hearing about a week ago. we had tsa managers come in and tell us that one of the worst operations of tsa is their intelligence and analysts division. and that is the division that looks at who poses a risk. that is a government function. the screening is not a government function. they're not sworn officers but government needs to connect the dots, to keep that person from ever getting to the airport, to keep that person off the plane. they're not even vetting airport workers. there are 14,000 in this report, no alien registration number for those working at the airports. neil: yeah. or within their own midst. congressman, thank you very, very much. >> good to be with you. neil: you heard about the dust-up with facebook and top-10 conservatives who met with mark zuckerberg to try to 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professors and administrators for violating the u.s. constitution's protection of free speech. back on february 25th of this year ben shapiro, conservative commentator was invited to speak at cal state la but protesters blocked that speech and denied students who wanted to hear the speech access to the auditorium. covering to the lawsuit, and sources close to the lawsuit, senior staff at california state university allowed the demonstrators to exist in order to stop the speech. the suit being filed today names professors such as molina abdullah, the president, william covino. as defendants. lives in the suit ben shapiro, the speaker on february 25th and young americans for freedom club at university which invited him to speak. more throughout the day at fox business. press conference scheduled for 2:00 p.m. eastern time, 5:00 p.m. eastern to discuss the lawsuit. neil, back to you. neil: adam, thank you, very, very much oh to be a fly on the wall at conservative powwow at facebook headquarters in california. we have one of the flies. he was one the 10 attendees, problem. i explained from our standpoint between the media research center and for america, my other organization we have 19 million facebook fans. i think we're biggest out there. we never had a problem. but there is too much smoke to dismiss the lack of a there is a problem. , within facebook. and i think there is a serious determination on the part of mark zuckerberg on down to fix this. for the two-fold reason, that one, it is a direct threat to his business model if there is an erosion of trust, and secondly, because i think this was his vision for facebook. yes, he is left-winger, yes, they're all left-wingers but he wants a marketplace. neil: if memory serves me right he denied there was issue here. did he finally after a little more searching saying yes, we did screw up? >> well, actually no. he hasn't denied it. what he has said is that they not found evidence of a systemic problem there. now the key word is systemic. people, there are some people who suggest that facebook has a policy against conservatives. like saying the irs had a policy irs and i think the problem is within facebook but not corporate facebook. neil: did he say he would fire anybody? did he say he would fire anybody if in fact they were keeping either conservative pieces or streaming information that was conserve if i have trending on the site? >> i have to honor the ground rules. it was off the record. but i can say there, i think, that they are very serious. we'll see. at the end of the game, at the end of the day, neil, we'll see when the report comes out. we'll see how they address this. we weren't expecting rome to be conquered in a day. we were looking to see if facebook was serious about this and i think we left encouraged that facebook is serious about. neil: cause ad schism within the conservative community. breitbart folks who were invited skipped out it was sort of like a grand photo-op. what did you make of their protest? >> silly and i think the person we as conservatives would rather not even try. i mean that's silly. neil: tucker carlson was there. did he steal anything while he was there? did they put out food or anything? what happened? >> as you, he walked out, last thing i saw he, he walked through the security. the beeper went off. i saw them throwing him up against the wall. i don't know what they found. neil: i feared and suspected as much. very good having you. this meeting is good. says a lot about zuckerberg that he agreed to hold it. facebook's stock by the way, in and out of the all-time highs this week. if this issue was draining on them, they have a funny way showing it. zuckerberg wants to be friendly to conservative community including very folks investing in his stock. we'll have more after this. neil: all right. we don't even know exactly what happened to egyptair but this is typical of wall street folks and i emphasized this at the top of the broadcast, reminder, they usually sell first, ask questions later. anything having to do with travel, be it traditional hotels, dominant leisure industry, airline stocks especially, they're selling off in droves on suspicion, fear, where there is smoke, there is fire, that terrorism is rampant. people will cancel their reservations, they are not going to travel. everyone will take a bus. it is overdone, it is overreaction but if i had a dime every time i saw this reaction, well, i would have a lot of dimes. it is predictable, it is understandable. given what happened on that plane, whatever happened on that plane, well, it is true. now, to trish regan on what happens next. trish: all right, that is a big question, neil. thank you very much. officials just reported they have found the wreckage of the egypt air flight that went down over the mediterranean killing all on board. was it a terrorist attack? i'm trish regan. welcome to the "the intelligence report." egypt found the wreckage en route from paris to cairo. it turned around abruptly midair entering egyptian airspace and quickly plunged into the mediterranean. egyptian officials say the cause of the crash was most likely terrorism. we are all over the story, everyone. we have aviation and terrorism experts here with us. meanwhile, new "fox news poll" shows donald trump beating

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